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Post by jonleka on Mar 4, 2011 20:57:02 GMT -5
You got it wrong he is saying Greeks Vlahs are Albanians but not shqipetars read little better.
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Post by uz on Mar 4, 2011 21:04:49 GMT -5
My mistake. It seemed like you said it. I mis-read what you were quoting.
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Post by terroreign on Mar 9, 2011 0:56:45 GMT -5
Anywho Lek Dukagjini is Albanian like I said, just not shqiptar, he is of Greek-Vlach origins. What does that mean I do not understand. Country men of yours get a f**k out a here "Albanian" is a regional term, shqiptar is ethnic, capeesh? "Jon"?
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Post by jonleka on Mar 9, 2011 21:01:15 GMT -5
muahhhhahhhhahhhahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
So krivo do you mind sharing your theory how did you come to the conclusion as Albanian being regional term, or state a source or any budy that came with that conclusion.
If its your opinion then we can just leav it at that an a opinion
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Post by terroreign on Mar 9, 2011 22:31:09 GMT -5
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Post by jonleka on Mar 9, 2011 23:16:46 GMT -5
Have you read the whole article why was it called Venetian Albania, because they encountered Albanian lingua in these territories hence the name.
Gjuha Arbnore as you might know.
If Albania was a territorial term then how come a part of Dalmatia was called Venetian Albania?
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Post by terroreign on Mar 9, 2011 23:21:07 GMT -5
It doesn't mention that anywhere, at least not sourced.
The territory was called "venetian" because it was under Venetian control, called Albania because the Adriatic coast from southern Dalmatia to Epirus in some cases is called Albania - a region denoted by the Normans around the 11th century or so.
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Post by jonleka on Mar 9, 2011 23:32:04 GMT -5
hhaha you are funny I asked why was Dalmacia called Venetian Albania, and this is the first time Dalmacia was called Albania why? Dalmacia was well known to Venetians as a territory dont forget that but it was called Venetian Albania!
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Post by jonleka on Mar 9, 2011 23:43:08 GMT -5
Nowere in the article mentions Albanian as a territorial term.
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Post by terroreign on Mar 10, 2011 0:53:35 GMT -5
lol Albanian Venetia was just Boka Kotorska until Budva- basically the Montenegrin coastline. That was never called Dalmatia which is more farther north.
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Post by uz on Mar 10, 2011 20:16:30 GMT -5
is it true the turks were never able to invade Dalmatia?
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Post by jonleka on Mar 10, 2011 20:46:30 GMT -5
Article does state southern Dalmatia but my question still stands why was Dioclea called Albania. Dude i get your game because i know where it hurts you but believe me the deeper you go the more Albanian they become, so you can just stop this bullshit and don't embarrass your self. I guess you don't have to go that deep for your self i noticed you even understood my Drenica dialect.
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Post by terroreign on Mar 10, 2011 22:26:44 GMT -5
^The article is from wikipedia, of course it will have some inaccuracies, from the beginning of the middle ages only from Rijeka to Ston was known as Dalmatia, Duklja was directly south of it, Albania was named later as a region by the Normans, Albania being a latin name from "Alba" meaning white.
The name has nothing to do with you people, nor does "Arberesh", it's just a regional name for that area of the Balkans.
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Post by jonleka on Mar 11, 2011 2:01:55 GMT -5
Dude the Name Arber, Arbanas,Arbanit was in use for our language and people before normans ever knew were balkan is. There are few byzantine texts that mentions Arbanitai and the Tsar Samuel mentions Arbanasi as non belivers.
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Post by terroreign on Mar 11, 2011 2:59:52 GMT -5
Then what does it mean in your language? Either it's a foreign loanword or it's present in your language. No if ands or buts.
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Post by jonleka on Mar 11, 2011 20:46:17 GMT -5
I see ok then what does Serb mean.
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Post by terroreign on Mar 11, 2011 23:16:35 GMT -5
Comes from archaic "Saraja" - "Sa - Raja", "Heavenly" or literally "From Heaven".
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Post by jonleka on Mar 11, 2011 23:20:43 GMT -5
Ok Ar is archaic for gold so Arber means Gold bearer.
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Post by terroreign on Mar 11, 2011 23:56:01 GMT -5
Ok Ar is archaic for gold so Arber means Gold bearer. Ber doesn't mean bearer...not even close. Plus using Albanian grammar, "Gold Bearer" would be in the order of "Bearer of Gold". Regardless, Albania aint yours, and is a regional designation. If Bill O'reilly was born in Albania he'd be Albanian too.
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Post by uz on Mar 12, 2011 0:14:17 GMT -5
What is the relationship between the Vlachs and Illyrians?
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