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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 7, 2018 13:24:59 GMT -5
Basque language is older
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 13:29:10 GMT -5
The Albanians are probably the genuine representatives of the ancient Illyrians, who were perhaps of the same stock as the Macedonians A handbook of Greece 1918 Vol 1, page 75
The historians' history of the world, Henry Smith Williams, 1909, p. 156:
Of the Illyrians and Epirots only the wild Albanians, or Arnauts, are still in existence. Next to the Basques the Albanians are the oldest people in Europe".
Australian Slavonic and East European studies: journal of the Australian and New Zealand Slavists' Association and of the Australasian Association for the Study of the Socialist Countries, Volumes 4-5, 1990, p. 200: "The oldest surviving inhabitants are the Albanians, descendants of a group of peoples known as the Illyrians, the Thracians and the Dacians
Worldmark Encyclopedia of the Nations: Europe, Gale Group, 2001, p. 3:
"The Albanians are considered descendants of ancient Illyrian or Thracian tribes of Indo-European origin that may have come to the Balkan Peninsula even before the Greeks".
The Balkans, 1815-1914, Leften Stavros Stavrianos, 1963, p. 6: "Thus today the descendants of these Illyrians, known as the Albanians, occupy only a small mountainous area along the southern Adriatic coast".
Macedonia, its people and history, Stoyan Pribichevich, 1982, p. 45:
"It is the prevalent view that the Albanians are direct descendants of the Illyrians, though they may partly come from the ancient Thracians or even the prehistoric Pelasgians
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 7, 2018 13:34:51 GMT -5
I want your source.
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 7, 2018 13:38:10 GMT -5
Peter, Mackridge. "Aspects of language and identity in the Greek peninsula since the eighteenth century". Newsletter of the Society Farsarotul, Vol, XXI & XXII, Issues 1 & 2. Retrieved 2 February 2014. the “Pelasgian theory” was formulated, according to which the Greek and Albanian languages were claimed to have a common origin in Pelasgian, the Albanians themselves are Pelasgians... Needless to say, there is absolutely no scientific evidence to support any of theses theories.
(on the pelasgians)
"Albanian identities: myth and history". Indiana University Press: 78–79. ISBN 978-0-253-21570-3. "...Such derivations, almost all of which would be rejected by modern scholars..."
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 13:47:53 GMT -5
my source is Pyrros
I give you source on each quote .......go do some homework and see if they hold
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 7, 2018 13:48:33 GMT -5
my source is Pyrros
I give you source on each quote .......go do some homework and see if they hold
you get this from one website, I know, which one?
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 13:57:54 GMT -5
Peter, Mackridge. "Aspects of language and identity in the Greek peninsula since the eighteenth century". Newsletter of the Society Farsarotul, Vol, XXI & XXII, Issues 1 & 2. Retrieved 2 February 2014. the “Pelasgian theory” was formulated, according to which the Greek and Albanian languages were claimed to have a common origin in Pelasgian, the Albanians themselves are Pelasgians... Needless to say, there is absolutely no scientific evidence to support any of theses theories. (on the pelasgians) "Albanian identities: myth and history". Indiana University Press: 78–79. ISBN 978-0-253-21570-3. "... Such derivations, almost all of which would be rejected by modern scholars..."
from the book by Peter Mackridge:
oops it wont paste it correctly .....go to search box on that page and put in "Pelasgian " and read what it says on page 188
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 7, 2018 13:59:31 GMT -5
Peter, Mackridge. "Aspects of language and identity in the Greek peninsula since the eighteenth century". Newsletter of the Society Farsarotul, Vol, XXI & XXII, Issues 1 & 2. Retrieved 2 February 2014. the “Pelasgian theory” was formulated, according to which the Greek and Albanian languages were claimed to have a common origin in Pelasgian, the Albanians themselves are Pelasgians... Needless to say, there is absolutely no scientific evidence to support any of theses theories. (on the pelasgians) "Albanian identities: myth and history". Indiana University Press: 78–79. ISBN 978-0-253-21570-3. "... Such derivations, almost all of which would be rejected by modern scholars..."
from the book by Peter Mackridge:
Lol, you aren't pelasgians deal with it.
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 18:24:35 GMT -5
wrong ....1415 ad...pyrros can explain it to you better maybe
also you may not speak greek but the letters are very easy for you.....try it
and you can thank Bulgaria church slavonic for giving you and all the way to Russia this alphabet (with slight variations)
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 18:47:13 GMT -5
"Pyrrhus king of Epirus invaded Italy with a formidable Greek profeesional hoplite army" . Bernstein, Alvin H.; Murray, Williamson; Knox, MacGregor (1996). The Making of strategy: rulers, states, and war. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0-521-56627-4. "The particulars of these with Pyrrhus of the Greek kingdom of Epirus." Jones, Archer (2001). The art of war in the Western world. Urbana: University of Illinois Press. p. 32. ISBN 0-252-06966-8. "Pyrrhus' Greek troops were tactically superior to the Roman army and he was never defeated in battle." Christopher Mackay (2004). Ancient Rome: a military and political history. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press. pp. 49. ISBN 0-521-80918-5. "...before Pyrrhus no contact with Greece after Pyrrhus Rome and Greece in tandem" Feeney, Denis (2007). Caesar's calendar: ancient time and the beginnings of history. Berkeley: University of California Press. pp. 38. ISBN 0-520-25119-9. "the Greek adventurer king Pyrrhus" Saylor, Steven (2007). Roma: the novel of ancient Rome. New York: St. Martin's Press. pp. 332. ISBN 0-312-32831-1.
Glaucus roi d'Illyrie prend Pyrrhus sous sa protection ..Translated ......King Glaucias, enthroned and surrounded by his court, gives baby Pyrrhus his protection
Glaucias was Illyrian
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Post by rex362 on Sept 7, 2018 18:52:34 GMT -5
I give you others sources even slav and greek ......not one source is Albanian bcs then you would obviously cry fowl but hence all your sources are stricly majority serbian/slavic or revisionist greek ....
open your mind see what others have said about you .....otherwise serbian academy of sciences dont cut it young buddy
also note : It is high treason for a Greek or Serb to acknowledge Albanians as descendants of the Illyrians It keeps their conception of a Quasi Genetic unity of each of their races together -Fact-
............otherwise your all just cigani mesana salata
Jesus Christ could come back and tell you Albanians are a continuation of the Illyrians and you still wouldn't
believe it ,and then 99% sure you would convert to Islam in a minute and then go to Syria to sweep the streets for Asad
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Post by Pyrros on Sept 7, 2018 23:54:37 GMT -5
wrong ....1415 ad...pyrros can explain it to you better maybe
also you may not speak greek but the letters are very easy for you.....try it
and you can thank Bulgaria church slavonic for giving you and all the way to Russia this alphabet (with slight variations)
Rex, can you pls share more info about the book? author, publication, title in its original? PS I have enough data already to shoot it down in just 2 lines (oh Rexy if you only knew what you are posting...), but I wanna do it even more formal.
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Post by Pyrros on Sept 7, 2018 23:57:00 GMT -5
ohhh and the english translation cannot constitute any form of evidence ... please... if it were up to the SAXANs our whole universe would be SHQIP.
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 8, 2018 0:28:18 GMT -5
"Pyrrhus king of Epirus invaded Italy with a formidable Greek profeesional hoplite army" . Bernstein, Alvin H.; Murray, Williamson; Knox, MacGregor (1996). The Making of strategy: rulers, states, and war. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0-521-56627-4. "The particulars of these with Pyrrhus of the Greek kingdom of Epirus." Jones, Archer (2001). The art of war in the Western world. Urbana: University of Illinois Press. p. 32. ISBN 0-252-06966-8. "Pyrrhus' Greek troops were tactically superior to the Roman army and he was never defeated in battle." Christopher Mackay (2004). Ancient Rome: a military and political history. Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press. pp. 49. ISBN 0-521-80918-5. "...before Pyrrhus no contact with Greece after Pyrrhus Rome and Greece in tandem" Feeney, Denis (2007). Caesar's calendar: ancient time and the beginnings of history. Berkeley: University of California Press. pp. 38. ISBN 0-520-25119-9. "the Greek adventurer king Pyrrhus" Saylor, Steven (2007). Roma: the novel of ancient Rome. New York: St. Martin's Press. pp. 332. ISBN 0-312-32831-1.
Glaucus roi d'Illyrie prend Pyrrhus sous sa protection ..Translated ......King Glaucias, enthroned and surrounded by his court, gives baby Pyrrhus his protection
Glaucias was Illyrian
So If I go to Assad and "seek his protection" does that make me Arab?
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 8, 2018 1:14:31 GMT -5
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Post by Pyrros on Sept 8, 2018 1:17:50 GMT -5
Issue 1
Charanis about Mazaris :
Issue 2
How can there be LACONIANS and PELOPONISIANS at the same time? This is a very BIZARRE point he makes.
Issue 3 The word Peloponisos had long been in obsolescence since early centuries AD. The correct word was the Slavic word : Moreja.
Issue 4 The shameless translator xlated illyrians->albanians. Well, albos were brought to Moreja some time after 1000 AD (in the known pattern like in the rest of places in the balkans), agreed, but the use of the word Illyrians is simply out of any logic.
Issue 5
wtf !!! this is by far the most SAXANi-iest description of the SLAVS ever.... opposite of the true.
Issue 6
Italians?? really?? WHICH ITALIANS?? The text by Mazaris is not to be taken seriously. As he used TWO words for describing Greeks (Lakonians, Peloponisians) he could very well use two words to describe Slavs. (supergroup and subgroup).
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Post by Pyrros on Sept 8, 2018 1:20:44 GMT -5
Charanis goes on..
Brane, do you the pattern here ?
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 8, 2018 1:20:47 GMT -5
Peter, Mackridge. "Aspects of language and identity in the Greek peninsula since the eighteenth century". Newsletter of the Society Farsarotul, Vol, XXI & XXII, Issues 1 & 2. Retrieved 2 February 2014. the “Pelasgian theory” was formulated, according to which the Greek and Albanian languages were claimed to have a common origin in Pelasgian, the Albanians themselves are Pelasgians... Needless to say, there is absolutely no scientific evidence to support any of theses theories. (on the pelasgians) "Albanian identities: myth and history". Indiana University Press: 78–79. ISBN 978-0-253-21570-3. "... Such derivations, almost all of which would be rejected by modern scholars..." oops it wont paste it correctly .....go to search box on that page and put in "Pelasgian " and read what it says on page 188
(on the pelasgians) "Albanian identities: myth and history". Indiana University Press: 78–79. ISBN 978-0-253-21570-3. "...Such derivations, almost all of which would be rejected by modern scholars..."
happy?
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Post by Pyrros on Sept 8, 2018 1:24:37 GMT -5
We are complaining about Vucic and Tsipras today when the Roman demons of SAXAN were doing EXACTLY the same thing with Asian immigrants (Albos) in 14th century.....
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 8, 2018 1:24:47 GMT -5
A monk from Hungary visited Southern Albania in the mid-18th century: While visiting Greece in 1768, upon being called to a visit by "some Albanians", he stayed one year with them. He became familiar with the people and "learned Albanian". Dositej emphasizes their relation to the Serbs: "How (strange) it was for me to hear these same Albanians say, 'Whoever governs Serbia, and we too will acknowledge that ruler, because the Serb kings were ours once, too'".
Dositej continues about his tenure with the Albanians, "Not too far from Hormove, beautiful fields were described which the Albanians call 'Lepa-zhite'. I asked them what this meant. 'We don't know,' they told me. 'That's just the name of the field'.
When I clarified what this meant, telling them that this is a Serbian word, "Oh, holy man," they answered, "Don't be surprised; we were once one family and tribe with the Serblyans in ancient times".
The Cetinje Herald Dositej among the Albanians April. 2. 1911 shows that you considered slavs as your brothers
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