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Post by derk on Nov 16, 2011 17:58:28 GMT -5
I see, so they didn't differentiate between the muslim chams and the christian arvanites then?
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Post by rex362 on Nov 16, 2011 18:03:23 GMT -5
I see, so they didn't differentiate between the muslim chams and the christian arvanites then? not quite ....that the Arvanites are Albanians /he called the chams Arvanites Arvanites = Albanian no matter what religion
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Post by derk on Nov 16, 2011 18:05:46 GMT -5
I see.
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Post by atdhetar on Nov 16, 2011 18:07:55 GMT -5
and Chalkedon mate, I think you can find a reasonable house if you do enough searching. Its always nice to have more greeks in Polis. As for being an arvanite in turkey, i agree that it is weird indeed ;D I guess it was a personal choice for my ancestors to come to Polis. Im talking about getting my ancestral home back, not making a purchase lol. aye, my cham homies can totally relate to that
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Post by rex362 on Nov 16, 2011 18:08:37 GMT -5
and when any greek throws the "Arvanitis are hellenic/Greek " thingy around
all they are doing is protecting the history and the Albanian heroism as their own ...simple as that and case closed
and they all know who and what ARVAN-ANYTHING IS NO MATTER WHAT
most here don't know but I am also an ARVANIT ,I am Albanian and Born in Greece
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Post by missanthropology58 on Nov 16, 2011 18:11:18 GMT -5
Arvanties are Albanians Tosks are the ones with Greek blood that's why he calls himself Greek Arvanite means a bit more than that. To me it means they sided with the Greeks against the Turks and were a prominent role in the struggle for liberation against the Ottomans. They would if they have Greek blood it's about the bloodlines not being a Turk or Albanian. Those very small minorities of ''Whites'' left in Turkey especially the Western part do identify themseleves as such I must of met perhaps two to three others myself included who does not identify with being a Turk racially.
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Post by derk on Nov 16, 2011 18:12:45 GMT -5
Really? I thought you were from Macedonia Rex.
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Post by missanthropology58 on Nov 16, 2011 18:17:02 GMT -5
I see, so they didn't differentiate between the muslim chams and the christian arvanites then? The Christian are "Alberesh" or ''Arberesh'' something like that. I think those are the ones who buggered off to Italy.
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Post by atdhetar on Nov 16, 2011 18:17:51 GMT -5
alban-alvan-arvan-arnavut....we're all sons of the arber, don't let them make a mockery of who you are, the entire greek myth is unravelling, why do people think greeks do not allow any access to their archives? there are a countless number of transcripts and correspondences that will debunk so much deception.
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Post by rex362 on Nov 16, 2011 18:18:59 GMT -5
I am that also ...I have family ties in todays Macedonia ,Albania,Greece
One People ,One Language,ONE !
hey the Balkans is small area in reality
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Post by missanthropology58 on Nov 16, 2011 18:19:49 GMT -5
I think greeks in today's greece are overly sensitive about blood and racially being greek. Arvanites are not of greek about but they are greek. We are a cultural nation, much like turkey. In today's turkey, are are dozens of different ethnicities that live in harmony. In greece, things are the same. We have been melting in a cultural pot for ages. Blood doesn't matter, ideal and culture do. As an Arvanite, I embrace my greekness. I am christian orthodox and I am true. Its what being greek is about. Fake-Greek Albane, most Greeks descend from ancient Greeks, Greek is a race and the Arvanites are Greeks too as well: Arvanites anthropologically Hellenes. In anthropological studies of Theodoros K. Pizziou, the Aegean population Arvanites are different morphologically and to their characters compared with the Albanians. It states: "The examination of these groups (Arvanitofonon), one in Messenia, one and two in Argolis Korinthia showed that in no way stand out from the total population of the Peloponnese or from neighboring groups. In any of the ninety maps features designed not resemble each other more than with their neighboring geographical groups. Also, the statistical dendrogrammata, simultaneous comparison of several features not arvanitofones groups separated from the rest of the Peloponnese. This research shows that the Arvanites were only Hellenes.Dr. Theodoros Pitsios received his graduate degree in Physical Anthropology, with a minor in Genetics and Paleontology, from the Johannes Gutenberg Universität of Mainz, in Germany, from which institution he was later awarded his PhD in Natural Sciences.anthropology-museum.med.uoa.gr/1ceng.htmThose look mostly Alpine Med. Wassup Hellenas my Nig, one of my fave posters is back.
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Post by atdhetar on Nov 16, 2011 18:20:37 GMT -5
I see, so they didn't differentiate between the muslim chams and the christian arvanites then? The Christian are "Alberesh" or ''Arberesh'' something like that. I think those are the ones who buggered off to Italy. pls dear, men are talking...when i want a recepe for peach cobbler i will seek your advice.
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Post by Sokol on Nov 16, 2011 18:24:26 GMT -5
and when any greek throws the "Arvanitis are hellenic/Greek " thingy around all they are doing is protecting the history and the Albanian heroism as their own ...simple as that and case closed and they all know who and what ARVAN-ANYTHING IS NO MATTER WHAT most here don't know but I am also an ARVANIT ,I am Albanian and Born in Greece Abre Reksi, jas si mislev si bil od Makedonija, a ti si bil Grk?? Eteti neshto novo...odi turkaj lajno....
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Post by rex362 on Nov 16, 2011 18:29:14 GMT -5
roden vo Grcia Atina....
nie Albancite se Ala-BalkaniJa
ti bugarski lajno
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Post by missanthropology58 on Nov 16, 2011 18:40:46 GMT -5
The Christian are "Alberesh" or ''Arberesh'' something like that. I think those are the ones who buggered off to Italy. pls dear, men are talking...when i want a recepe for peach cobbler i will seek your advice. Attachments:![](//storage.proboards.com/33768/thumbnailer/wcZIMPdkCLW97L3d62AB.jpg)
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Post by Sokol on Nov 16, 2011 18:46:57 GMT -5
roden vo Grcia Atina.... nie Albancite se Ala-BalkaniJati bugarski lajno ha ha ha....grkchki shiptar....smeshno
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Post by rex362 on Nov 16, 2011 18:54:06 GMT -5
look at these people in Greece ..the custom and traditions ...but they are not allowed or scared to raise the flag of George Castrioti /Skenderbeg
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Post by missanthropology58 on Nov 16, 2011 18:58:23 GMT -5
Dacians (or Getae) were North Thracian tribes.Totally f**king agree, but I thought North Greece and Thracians were more Alpine? Most of my family are. Greetings missanthropology58. Only north-western Greece=Epiros is mostly Alpine(but with a great number of Mediterraneans too), Greek Macedonia is mostly Mediterranean with a great number of Alpines(especially in the western part) and Greek Thrace is mostly Mediterranean, like southern Bulgaria(ex-north Thrace) is. Greetings missanthropology58. Only north-western Greece=Epiros is mostly Alpine(but with a great number of Mediterraneans too), Greek Macedonia is mostly Mediterranean with a great number of Alpines(especially in the western part) and Greek Thrace is mostly Mediterranean, like southern Bulgaria(ex-north Thrace) is. Ok cool. Greetings dude. It's good to see you here. Hey, at least now we can talk about this s**t without the Turks... and Crimson Guard the Wop striking our accounts, lol*.
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Post by rex362 on Nov 16, 2011 19:13:24 GMT -5
and its also about this ....the lands.....
soon we will reunite ....oh yea
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Post by Hellenas on Nov 16, 2011 20:15:43 GMT -5
most here don't know but I am also an ARVANIT ,I am Albanian and Born in Greece This means you are racially Greek(even though politically and ethnically an anti-Greek), that's why you also look Greek and your sub-race is the Mediterranean. You just try to Albanize the Greeks because it happens to born a Greek looking man inside the Albanian Alpine and Dinaric people and you feel so bad about that, you just have a complex as well, what a pity...
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