Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Oct 20, 2011 10:12:59 GMT -5
to the families of the soldiers that were killed by those cowards.... I hope you guys get them and get them fast...
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Post by missanthropology58 on Oct 20, 2011 10:33:34 GMT -5
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Post by derk on Oct 20, 2011 15:01:25 GMT -5
thanks mike, I think that is very nice of you.
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Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Oct 20, 2011 20:18:20 GMT -5
hope we do too! thnx
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Post by srbobran on Oct 20, 2011 20:50:04 GMT -5
What happened?
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Post by Moe Lester on Oct 21, 2011 1:43:19 GMT -5
26 Turkish soldiers killed in Kurdish attacks AFP Oct 19, 2011, 03.31PM IST
ISTANBUL: Kurdish rebels killed 26 soldiers on Wednesday in simultaneous attacks in southeast Turkey, marking one of the deadliest days for the army in the 27-year battle against the separatists.
The Turkish military retaliated with air strikes and by sending in troops into neighbouring Iraq where the rebels are based while the prime minister cancelled a foreign trip.
The attacks by Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) rebels on the Turkish troops occurred in eight locations in Cukurca and Yuksekova in Hakkari province near the Iraqi border, during the night from Tuesday to Wednesday, local security sources said.
The toll is the heaviest for the army since 1993, when the PKK killed 33 unarmed soldiers in Bingol province, in southeast Turkey. It could rise as at least one of the injured soldiers sustained life-threatening wounds, local health officials said.
Sources on both sides of the conflict confirmed that Turkey had responded to the attacks on the ground and in the air.
Several hundred Turkish soldiers have crossed into northern Iraq to hunt down PKK rebels, Kurdish news agency Firatnews said.
"Turkish soldiers from two separate points in Cukurca town crossed into south Kurdistan to follow (rebels)," said Firat news agency, which is known as a mouthpiece of the PKK.
"Turkish ground forces are attempting to cross the Iraqi border at Jeli, in the Hakkari region" of southeast Turkey, Dozdar Hammo, a PKK spokesman, told AFP.
Turkish army commandos had been flown in by helicopter to the Iraqi side of the border, local security sources said.
Turkish air force planes also bombed Kurdish rebel bases in Iraq in retaliation for the attacks, security sources said.
The air raids targeted Qandil region, the main rear base of the PKK, they added.
Turkish air forces have bombed rebel bases in Iraq several times in recent months, killing nearly 100 rebels, according to the Turkish general staff.
The Turkish parliament earlier this month renewed its mandate for the government to conduct ground incursions into Iraq.
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has cancelled a trip to Kazakhstan because of the attacks, NTV said, while foreign minister Ahmet Davutoglu also scratched a visit to Serbia.
Erdogan, together with interior and defence ministers, intelligence undersecretary and military commanders held an urgent meeting at the prime minister's office, NTV said.
"Turkey will not be shaken by terror ... We will do whatever we can do to finish this," President Abdullah Gul said in televised remarks.
"Those who believe they have shaken our state with those attacks... should know that the revenge for those attacks will be huge."
Clashes between the PKK and the army have escalated since the summer.
On Tuesday, a landmine explosion blamed on Kurdish rebels killed five police and three civilians in southeast Turkey.
The PKK, listed as a terrorist organisation by Turkey and much of the international community, took up arms in Kurdish-majority southeastern Turkey in 1984, sparking a conflict that has claimed about 45,000 lives. articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-10-19/europe/30297434_1_hakkari-pkk-qandil
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Post by srbobran on Oct 21, 2011 12:19:21 GMT -5
Was it a suicide bombing?
If not I don't see a reason to give condolences. War is war and both sides knew what they were getting into, no shit people are going to die. As long as it was a fair fight, there is no reason to be sorry.
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Post by derk on Oct 21, 2011 15:47:18 GMT -5
^you are sick. A fucking sick arsehole. 250 rebels invaded across the border, killing 24 soldiers who were 20 years of age... The turkish soldiers were not there to wage war... They were there to protect their country. But a sick arsehole like you wouldn't understand. You only know "to kill", not to "defend".
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Post by Moe Lester on Oct 21, 2011 16:27:21 GMT -5
Is the Iraqi government working with the Turkish government in trying to find these rebels?
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Post by derk on Oct 21, 2011 16:31:29 GMT -5
^they sure are pretending to cooperate, but I doubt their sincerity.
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Post by Moe Lester on Oct 21, 2011 16:45:30 GMT -5
Iraq not friendly towards Turkey?
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Post by derk on Oct 21, 2011 16:50:47 GMT -5
Well, the Kurdistan Regional Government in northern iraq sure harbours many terrorists.
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Post by srbobran on Oct 21, 2011 17:43:43 GMT -5
If they didn't want to kill or die they should not have joined the army. 24 soldiers, whoopedy fucking doo, they were killed in the line of duty. They have my respect for being brave but that's about it. I don't feel sorry for them because they knew exactly what they were getting into.
And by the way, part of waging a war is defending and part of both of the aforementioned is DEATH you pansy ass piece of shit. You're honestly telling me that if a bunch of Serbian soldiers died you would offer your condolences? Fuck you, you're a piece of shit man. At least I'm I'm honest.
Either way, I support an independent Kurdistan so in my eyes, so the more of these Turkish "defenders" die, the better.
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Post by najpos on Oct 21, 2011 18:16:26 GMT -5
I kinda agree with Srbobran. As Jesus said: live by the sword, die by the sword. There are risks involved in being a solider and death is one of them. It's likely that some of them have blood on their hands.
Deaths are almost always tragic however so my condolences.
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Post by derk on Oct 22, 2011 0:51:43 GMT -5
The thing you don't understand srborban, you piece of shit, it that they did not join the army cos they wanna kill people (unlike serbs) they are conscripted, and turks do not want a war... I have and will always feels sorry for people who died in kosova, the albanians and serbs. But filthy arseholes like you, as I have said earlier, only take pride in killing. Thats the reason you guys have brought nothing but blood, genocide and sorrow to the balkans.
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Post by terroreign on Oct 22, 2011 1:02:40 GMT -5
srbobran is right....don't hang in the kitchen if you can't take the heat. they're adults and are accountable for their actions...i'm sure they could avoid conscription if they felt strongly enough.
derk stfu with your double standards, troll
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Post by Moe Lester on Oct 22, 2011 2:42:01 GMT -5
I can't believe it, rebels kill Turkish soldiers by surprise and all of you are saying "well, that's what happens". How would you feel if people were like "well, those Kosovo Serbs get what they deserved, if they didn't want to be treated harshly, they shouldn't have treated others harshly"?
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Post by srbobran on Oct 22, 2011 10:30:15 GMT -5
If they wanted to defend they're country, they should have known death was a possible outcome. And they were there to kill. That is what the army is and what the army does. Regardless of the reasons behind it, good or bad, the army is training people to kill. Fact.
And that's complete and utter garbage, you sorry for the Kurds that died killed these soldiers? How are they any different? They're both "defending" and they're both fighting a war that they support for their own valid reasons. And I wholeheartedly believe you don't give a s**t about Serbs and wouldn't care about any Serbian deaths. Which is perfectly fine, I don't care if you do, the thing I do care about is the fact that you're a f**king liar for saying you would. At least I have principles.
1) Soldiers dying and civilians dying is a different matter. All I'm saying is that if you pick up a gun and join the army to defend your country you should know full well that you might die. They were armed, they had the means to defend themselves and they failed in doing so. It war. They deserve respect for their courage and that's it. Civilians on the other had did not sign up for war, they did not pick up a gun and join the army and thus the killing of civilians is wrong in that they are utterly defenseless and the possibility of death is NOT what they signed up for.
2) Honestly, its not like anyone would offer their "condolences" (as that even f**king means anything to anyone) if Serbian soldiers died. No one gives a f**k about when Serbs die and I'm expected to cry about a couple Turkish soldiers dying? PUH-LEASE Turks would be partying in the streets if they heard of a bunch of Serbian soldiers being killed in Kosovo.
3) Like I said, the Turkish government does not support the territorial integrity of Serbia. Their army is an extension of their government and the means by which it protects itself. If anything, I should be glad Turkish soldiers are dying (im definitely not, but I should be) . After all the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Power to the Kurds.
And for the record, "condolences" mean dick all to me.
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Post by alb12345 on Oct 22, 2011 12:23:42 GMT -5
Soulless serv f**k you and youre dirty race subhuman bastard may god one day send you in hell youre same as those chinese people who let that 2 years old baby die in middle of the street aliens living on earth
warning - cool it down. No hate msgs
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Post by srbobran on Oct 22, 2011 12:27:16 GMT -5
^ Hypocritical piece of lying shit, would you offer condolences to Serbian soldiers that died? NO, you wouldn't. You make me sick.
And read 1) again. Killing civilians is unjustified.
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