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Post by Shqipni13 on Nov 24, 2011 15:35:29 GMT -5
^Give examples. I don't consider macedonia an ally. Alex is an idiot. Albania recognized macedonia but yet macedonians burn Albanian flags. Its hard to comprehend retards.
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Post by uz on Nov 24, 2011 16:33:40 GMT -5
That's not the point. Albanians constantly hate on their number one ally the US, they burn the flags of countries that actually recognized their "government" in Kosovo. Is this how allies are supposed to treat each other? I mean, has there ever been a case of Serbs burning Russian flags? ^ There was a time, during Yugo when the Soviets threatened invasion, lol but ya there's a difference.
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Post by punisher on Nov 24, 2011 16:43:56 GMT -5
Albanians of Kosova are the best albanians by far they should not given the confused bulgarians attention by burning their ancient vergina sun flag that was used for first time in 1995. brother i agree with you,it's stupid that we lowered ourself to such barbaric behaviour,we aren't slavs of maci.
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Post by ivo on Nov 24, 2011 17:03:39 GMT -5
Somehow I feel that all such tension can be avoided if the government of the Republic of Macedonia allows equal rights to all its citizens, and allows everyone to identify as they please freely without fear of reprimand.
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Post by Sokol on Nov 24, 2011 17:06:37 GMT -5
Somehow I feel that all such tension can be avoided if the government of the Republic of Macedonia allows equal rights to all its citizens, and allows everyone to identify as they please freely without fear of reprimand. This is already the case Ivo. Maybe Bulgaria should do the same
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Post by Sokol on Nov 24, 2011 17:09:13 GMT -5
yes, it's also the respect shown for housing them in 1999 during the kosovo war. we should have shut the border and let the serbs shoot them like fish in a barrel. Macedonia should reverse it's recognition. LIAR ! Jas bev tamo you didn't house anything ....you kept em fence out in the mud and throwing them loafs of stale bread over the fence .....the government put up gypsies in the hotels instead .....the only people that housed them were thier Albanian brothers and sisters of Macedonians but you did collect the money for pretending too and that's when us Albanian Macedonians saw what time it was with the slavic regime and people of Macedonia Rexi, firstly you are Greek, not Macedonian-Albanian. Second, can you tell me how many shiptars are alive now because of Macedonia's actions. I guess you're talking about the UN run refugee camp Stankovec. Your beef is with the UN then, no?
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Post by ivo on Nov 24, 2011 17:49:35 GMT -5
Sorry friend, you need to open your eyes.
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Post by Sokol on Nov 24, 2011 22:48:42 GMT -5
Ahh yes, Bulgaria an oasis of peace and harmony...
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Post by ivo on Nov 24, 2011 23:16:16 GMT -5
No, not that part. This be the part:
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Post by Sokol on Nov 24, 2011 23:35:28 GMT -5
No, not that part. This be the part: Macedonia allows all it's people to declare their ethnicity. The Bulgarians regularly avail themselves of this right. At the last census 1,417 people declared themselves as Bulgarians.
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Post by ivo on Nov 24, 2011 23:43:05 GMT -5
Macedonia allows jack shit. Freedoms are only granted to those that bend over and don't ask questions.
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Post by Sokol on Nov 24, 2011 23:48:36 GMT -5
Macedonia allows jack s**t. Freedoms are only granted to those that bend over and don't ask questions. Bulgaria doesn't even give you that... European Court of Human Rights Rules Against Bulgaria...Again Friday, 28 October 2011 October 27, 2011 – Washington, D.C. – On October 18th, the Strasbourg-based European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) again found the Bulgarian state to have violated the human rights of the Macedonian minority, including freedom of assembly. While encouraged by the decision, the United Macedonian Diaspora ("UMD") calls on the Republic of Bulgaria to finally recognize its Macedonian minority in the Pirin region, and cease all illegal police and court actions against them immediately. The association "UMO Ilinden" and political party "UMO Ilinden - Pirin" have suffered from a long history of political interference by reactionary elements within the Bulgarian state, going back to 1990. In five previous judgments, the ECHR condemned Bulgaria's attempts at legal dissolution of the political party, its refusal to register the association, and its unlawful bans of several large public assemblies. Since those previous decisions, however, it seems that nothing changed. In three of the four new cases on October 18, the ECHR again found Bulgaria in violation of Article 11 of the European Convention on Human Rights. These new violations were all very similar to the ones condemned by the Court previously, thus confirming that Bulgaria is willing and able to ignore ECHR judgments. The new offenses included imposing unlawful bans of peaceful gatherings and arresting participants without cause, as well as other illegal actions against Bulgarian citizens of Macedonian ethnicity. The final judgment ordered Bulgaria to pay each applicant in the first three cases 9,000 euros each in damages, plus costs and expenses. "It is positive that the European Court's decision went the right way and that the victims were compensated," said UMD Chairman Stojan Nikolov. "However, it still amounts to a slap on the wrist for Bulgaria. It is still highly doubtful that Bulgaria's respect for the European Convention of Human Rights will improve any time soon, or that there is any political will for real change in Sofia's attitude towards its sizeable Macedonian minority. Ultimately, we need the Macedonian minority in Bulgaria to be fully recognized under the law, and we must accept nothing less. The situation in Greece is no different. Lasting, peaceful cooperation in the Balkans cannot move forward without full recognition of ethnic Macedonian minorities in all neighboring states." UMD President Metodija A. Koloski added: "Recently, the Bulgarian Foreign Minister has talked loudly in the press about a new 'friendship' policy toward Macedonia, but with European Court decisions like these, the facade falls, and the Bulgarian state shows its true colors." UMD reiterates its call to the Bulgarian state authorities to recognize its own ethnic Macedonian minority and cease all illegal police and court actions against them immediately. Through its global network, UMD will continue to bring awareness of this issue to all major recognized human rights institutions, such as the United Nations, Helsinki Commissions, the Council of Europe, and the European Parliament, among others. umdiaspora.org/content/view/614/1/
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Post by ivo on Nov 24, 2011 23:52:11 GMT -5
Cut the BS bro. If you want credibility for your newly founded Macedonian ethnic identity, you need to present history as it was. Don't be stealin'.
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Post by Sokol on Nov 24, 2011 23:55:20 GMT -5
Cut the BS bro. If you want credibility for your newly founded Macedonian ethnic identity, you need to present history as it was. Don't be stealin'. Mate, this thread was about shiptars burning Macedonian flags - not about San Stefano Bulgaria....go hijack another thread
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Post by ivo on Nov 24, 2011 23:58:38 GMT -5
Buddy boy, you're the one that brought up Bulgaria. I merely stated that the tension you speak of can be avoided, and it's up to your government to make that happen.
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Post by rex362 on Nov 26, 2011 14:53:21 GMT -5
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Post by uz on Nov 26, 2011 15:14:31 GMT -5
^ That's very low and a real demonstration of weakness.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Nov 26, 2011 19:31:55 GMT -5
^You're right that's a waste of good toilet paper.
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Post by uz on Nov 26, 2011 20:05:16 GMT -5
And you wonder why Europeans look at you like gypsies.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Nov 26, 2011 20:45:58 GMT -5
^It goes both ways. The hate is mutual.
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