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Post by Shqipni13 on Nov 28, 2011 21:50:04 GMT -5
^Thats not what I was implying. But it is funny how many times other balkan nations have teamed up against serbia. Albanians with Croatia in 91. Im going to leave WWII alone because there is a large gray area there. Just to be clear the "Albanian nation" as in Albania didn't ally with Croatia or even against Serbia. A few Kosovars joined our ranks , some to positions of importance, but there was no Albanian army helping out the Croatian militia. Also Croatia didn't go to war against Serbia. Croatia never sent one soul into Serbia that was armed ready to take Serbian land. Rather , Croatia fought within its own borders against a violent minority. It's why we Croats call it the 'homeland war' since it was fought in our own country as we didn't invade another or sent troops into places like Serbia to terrorize their civilians. I specifically said Albanians (individuals).
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Post by Sokol on Nov 28, 2011 21:50:24 GMT -5
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Post by Sokol on Nov 28, 2011 21:52:39 GMT -5
plus all the Macedonians I know accept their Slavic identiy 100%, and don't try bragging about Ancient Macedon. I am still confused about you. You go all over the place, I guess it depends what others' say right? As I've said countless times, modern Macedonians are a mixture of Slav and ancient Macedonian blood lines. We are a Slavic nation and nobody denies that.
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Post by uz on Nov 28, 2011 21:54:27 GMT -5
Just pick your argument wisely when the time comes when the Albanians storm bondsteele and begin to venture for Macedonia. where's bondsteele again....? Go to your Ustasa friends and see if they make an appearence.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Nov 28, 2011 22:14:13 GMT -5
Are you still defending the actions of those rats who joined Ustasa? Keep it real bro. Who's talking about the Ustasa? I was talking about the 90s , not the 40s.
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Post by uz on Nov 28, 2011 22:15:12 GMT -5
Are you still defending the actions of those rats who joined Ustasa? Keep it real bro. Who's talking about the Ustasa? I was talking about the 90s , not the 40s. That wasn't meant for you. Your post just popped before mine.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Nov 28, 2011 22:15:29 GMT -5
Just to be clear the "Albanian nation" as in Albania didn't ally with Croatia or even against Serbia. A few Kosovars joined our ranks , some to positions of importance, but there was no Albanian army helping out the Croatian militia. Also Croatia didn't go to war against Serbia. Croatia never sent one soul into Serbia that was armed ready to take Serbian land. Rather , Croatia fought within its own borders against a violent minority. It's why we Croats call it the 'homeland war' since it was fought in our own country as we didn't invade another or sent troops into places like Serbia to terrorize their civilians. I specifically said Albanians (individuals). You said 'other Balkan nations.' I was responding to that.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Nov 28, 2011 22:17:30 GMT -5
lol @ greater-Serb fascism. You took pride in joiing the Croatian Fascist movement, and you're only defense is; that was a response to Pyros and Novi. How do you allow others' to dictate/control what beleifs you should have? I know many Macedonians in Toronto who would flip if they heard their own speaking like that. Croat and Macedonian communists have also allied in the past for the same reason as the Ustasha-VMRO co-operation.. All communists colluded, there is nothing special here. We Croats have always had a 'soft spot' for Macedonians though because you are friendly nation and we understand what its like when everyone wants to tare your country apart.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Nov 28, 2011 22:21:35 GMT -5
that was in response to provocations from the likes of novi, krivo, pyro & co. our alliance with the ustasha was at a time when croats and macedonians were facing extinction because of greater-serb fascism. let's not play innocent here. lol @ greater-Serb fascism. You took pride in joiing the Croatian Fascist movement, and you're only defense is; that was a response to Pyros and Novi. How do you allow others' to dictate/control what beleifs you should have? I know many Macedonians in Toronto who would flip if they heard their own speaking like that. Technically neither are fascist movments as fascism is defined as primarily an economic system of the nationalization of big industry. Neither the Serb or Croatian government dictated much the production in their own countries during their reign. The Ustasa movement was clerical ultranationalist while the Cetnik movement wasn't as clerical but still ultranationalist.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Nov 28, 2011 22:21:46 GMT -5
Just pick your argument wisely when the time comes when the Albanians storm bondsteele and begin to venture for Macedonia. where's bondsteele again....? Go to your Ustasa friends and see if they make an appearence. There is no relevance between location of bondsteel and future war between Albanians and fyrom. Get real.
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Post by uz on Nov 28, 2011 22:23:00 GMT -5
Just pick your argument wisely when the time comes when the Albanians storm bondsteele and begin to venture for Macedonia. where's bondsteele again....? Go to your Ustasa friends and see if they make an appearence. There is no relevance between location of bondsteel and future war between Albanians and fyrom. Get real. This is real. When the Americans leave you think bondsteele will disapear with them? This should actually make you excited. Specific/stragetic locations are picked before setting up military bases.
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Post by uz on Nov 28, 2011 22:26:20 GMT -5
JUG military base in Bujanovac was picked wisely aswell. Just an hour and half drive to Pristina from there.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Nov 28, 2011 22:51:57 GMT -5
I can't get excited about potential wars while living in the states. Things need to be done diplomatically.
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Post by uz on Nov 28, 2011 22:53:30 GMT -5
^ I agree, but isn't it obvious that there's behind the curtain planning? Things like this cannot be simply coincidental.
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Post by Sokol on Nov 28, 2011 22:55:43 GMT -5
JUG military base in Bujanovac was picked wisely aswell. Just an hour and half drive to Pristina from there. The Macedonian Army likewise maintains a strong presence in northern and western and Macedonia. The US Army base Able Sentry was located near Skopje and has recently been handed over the the ARM.
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Post by uz on Nov 28, 2011 22:57:31 GMT -5
^ don't you love how the Americans have their foot everywhere?
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Post by Sokol on Nov 28, 2011 22:59:04 GMT -5
Just pick your argument wisely when the time comes when the Albanians storm bondsteele and begin to venture for Macedonia. where's bondsteele again....? Go to your Ustasa friends and see if they make an appearence. Don't worry we have agreements and partnerships with other friendly nations...
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Post by uz on Nov 28, 2011 22:59:31 GMT -5
Ya, Kosovo !! LOL
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Post by Sokol on Nov 28, 2011 23:00:54 GMT -5
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Post by Shqipni13 on Nov 28, 2011 23:05:01 GMT -5
Uz fyrom is in same position as Kosova for the time being. Neither can be touched. As far as west policy changing 10-20 years down road, then who knows.
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