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Post by Anittas on Dec 7, 2011 11:37:35 GMT -5
Yes, languages are evolving, but you're not the determining factor for their evolvement. You can't make up new words, new ways of spelling, and new idioms as you can.
Again, what makes you one of the few to have earned your place on "this continent"? I didn't ask you what doesn't; I asked you what does. I will await your reply.
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Post by ivo on Dec 7, 2011 12:06:28 GMT -5
Like you, I've read the book. Unlike you, I've had contact with many different people from all walks of life.. and I've been smart enough to keep an open mind and learn from everything I've been a part of.
Your major drawback is that you think you 'know it all', but in reality there's much to learn.
But as I've told you before, if you haven't been able to learn these lessons of life at your age.. you probably never will. And I have nothing to gain from educating you on the things you've missed; this is mere entertainmnet for me.
This would be a rather lengthy discussion, especially considering your lack of knowledge in Bulgarian and overall Balkan history.
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Post by missanthropology58 on Dec 7, 2011 16:21:10 GMT -5
Karta, let's not be kidding here. We are a major Slav-hating country and all this bubble about friendly with Bulgaria/Serbia/Russia is a bit total BS, and we both know it. We have based are whole existence on the mighty England and we put all our bets on this. We put all our eggs into the english basket. No doubt about it. Now, we should pray together with albanians for mighty NATO/west to stay forever otherwise we are f**ked. That's the fate of the weak nations. We should open channels with all slavic countries, but our mighty masters forbid that. Now that i think about it, there was this pro-ancient greek terrorism in Greece, where we should all behave like we are f**king ancients or anything. Total terrorism. Made in England. We are NOT ancients. Nobody in the bloody balkans is ancient. The most ancient-pure you can get are some Serbs/CG/BiH and the Cretans/Cypriots, all else are a f**king salad. Especially Greece is the biggest salad of all. So i see all this theater like hopeless. Pyrro, you are wrong here. 28 different European and American universities under the leadership of Cambridge Universite proved that modern Greeks have the same DNA like Ancient Greeks and that the Greeks descend from the Greeks of antiquity who lived inside of Greece and outside of Greece, our neighbors are racially, partly, pretty Greeks. In numbers, 98% of modern Greeks descend from Ancient Greeks and only 2% from non-ancient-Greeks. This stated by Constantinos Plevris in TV, he also said that whoever want the studies can come in contact with him. Unfortunatelly I don't hold the studies yet but this will blow up all of our anti-Greek enemies who spam the internet claiming the opposite. For now: Greek autosomal DNAA striking demonstration of the persistence of the Greek genetic signature through time can be found in [1]. The figure on the right is the 4th principal component of variation in Europe and shows a strong cline centered in Greece. Not only is the Greek genetic legacy clearly detectible today, but it is detectible among not only the Greeks, but all their neighboring populations of partial Greek ancestry:THE FOURTH is strongly reminiscent of Greek colonization in the first millennium B.C. racialreality.110mb.com/genetic_variation.htmlLol beep beep! Go get 'em Hellenas and don't forget, E3b is Neolithic ;D
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Post by Anittas on Dec 7, 2011 17:45:57 GMT -5
Like you, I've read the book. Unlike you, I've had contact with many different people from all walks of life.. and I've been smart enough to keep an open mind and learn from everything I've been a part of. Your major drawback is that you think you 'know it all', but in reality there's much to learn. But as I've told you before, if you haven't been able to learn these lessons of life at your age.. you probably never will. And I have nothing to gain from educating you on the things you've missed; this is mere entertainmnet for me. This would be a rather lengthy discussion, especially considering your lack of knowledge in Bulgarian and overall Balkan history. You're talking gibberish. You used an incorrect idiom and now point your error to me, as if I'm the one at fault. Give it a rest. As for Balkan history, I'm pretty sure I know more about it. I read extensively on Ottoman history and that includes Albanian, Serb and even Bosnian history.
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Post by ivo on Dec 7, 2011 18:25:52 GMT -5
You're not at fault.. just plain. You wanna medal or somthin!? Anittas esti prost.
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 19:37:21 GMT -5
Greece is one of the most anti-Slavic nations in the world. It has ethnically cleansed a large part of its Slavic population over the last century, and then pretends to be pro-Slav (Serbia, Russia, Bulgaria etc...) Ethnic Macedonian refugee children from Gorno Brodi, Serres driven from their homes by the Greeks 1913 Children Refugees fleeing across the border, 1940s/50s
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Post by Anittas on Dec 7, 2011 19:48:34 GMT -5
I am plain? On the contrary, compared to you, I'm very creative. Yet we weren't discussing that. But okay, if you insist, let's discuss that. You are without doubt the most boring member I have ever read on Illyria. I don't ever recall you saying anything funny or making someone laugh. Ever. Not when using this nickname, nor when you used the nickname of Kotrag years back. Pyrros was correct when he said you're like a machine. I wish I had made that comment before he did.
Initially, you wanted to adopt this serious attitude that would reflect on your intellect. When I burst that bubble--the bubble of you trying to act like an intellectual when in fact you're a moron--you tried to turn the tables (just like you're doing in this thread) and accuse me of pretenting to be more than I am; and now of being plain. So now you're running your mouth like a jerk and no one cares to react anymore because you'd bore them to death.
With that said, I'd want to pinpoint to what you claimed in this thread, namely that Bulgaria is one of the few nations that earned her place on this continent. Since you refuse to elaborate, I'm forced to believe that you simply don't know what the heck you're talking about--just like the time when you stated that there will be a day of reckoning, and when being asked to elaborate, you made some folly comments and left it at that.
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Post by missanthropology58 on Dec 7, 2011 19:49:55 GMT -5
How could they hate Slavic people if they have a E3b dna?
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 19:55:11 GMT -5
How could they hate Slavic people if they have a E3b dna? they don't speak a slavic language...
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Post by missanthropology58 on Dec 7, 2011 20:06:29 GMT -5
But they have 30 percent Slavic dna so they're basically discriminating against 30 percent of themselves
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Post by Novi Pazar on Dec 7, 2011 20:20:00 GMT -5
"who knows, maybe more Greeks live today in Serbia than in Greece.....cause there is no way on earth that our accent has a greek origin." Pyrro brate, the serbian tribe that arrived in Balkans (south balkans) were recorded to have taken prisoners and serbianised those people (during war). So its no surprise that some Serbs have a Greek appearance and can pass as a Greek
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Post by Novi Pazar on Dec 7, 2011 20:34:12 GMT -5
"That makes no sense. Okay, I suppose you wanted to say "one of the few". Let's go with that. The next question that arises is, based on what criteria? What nations haven't earned their place on "this continent"?"
Anittas, i've read heaps of old bulgarian books, from their gold period of romanitism or propaganda (late 19th century). In these books, they say the Old BuLgari were the tribe who brought Sankrit language to the indus valley, they claim they are an older civilisation than the ancient Greeks and many of the ancient Greeks were in-fact BuLgari. Many historic Greek revolutionaries were BuLgari, according to those deformed books.
PS Just watch the BuLgari here defend verkovich (a croat) on his deformation known as the 'veda sloveni'.
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 21:07:58 GMT -5
But they have 30 percent Slavic dna so they're basically discriminating against 30 percent of themselves perhaps. didn't hitler have jewish blood??
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Post by Moe Lester on Dec 7, 2011 22:08:35 GMT -5
perhaps. didn't hitler have jewish blood?? There have been allegations, but no proof as far as I know.
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 22:25:06 GMT -5
Some more anti-Slavic measures undertaken in Greece Article from the Greek newspaper "Sfaira" dated September 1st 1959. The article describes how a language oath was taken by the inhabitants of the village of Atrapos(Karpeshina) in the Florina(Lerin) region of Aegean Macedonia. The oath: Quote: I do promise before God, the people, and the official state authorities, that from this day on I shall cease to speak the Slav dialect which gives misunderstandings to the enemies of our country - the Bulgarians - and that I will speak always and everywhere the official language of our fatherland – the Greek language, in which the Holy Gospel is written.
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Post by Anittas on Dec 7, 2011 22:35:47 GMT -5
"That makes no sense. Okay, I suppose you wanted to say "one of the few". Let's go with that. The next question that arises is, based on what criteria? What nations haven't earned their place on "this continent"?" Anittas, i've read heaps of old bulgarian books, from their gold period of romanitism or propaganda (late 19th century). In these books, they say the Old Bu Lgari were the tribe who brought Sankrit language to the indus valley, they claim they are an older civilisation than the ancient Greeks and many of the ancient Greeks were in-fact Bu Lgari. Many historic Greek revolutionaries were Bu Lgari, according to those deformed books. PS Just watch the Bu Lgari here defend verkovich (a croat) on his deformation known as the 'veda sloveni'. That's nothing. Several years back, there was a Bulgarian by the name Sin ... something who claimed that the Shao Lin dances were influenced by Bulgarian dances and foklore. Apart from Ruse and a chick who only made a few posts during late 2003, all Bulgarians members were retarded. In fact, we had a Romanian member who was half Bulgarian, and as such, he was retarded, too. Not half retarded, but completely retarded. I can't blame the Macedonians for not wanting to have anything to do with this race of morons, these freaks of nature.
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Post by Sokol on Dec 8, 2011 0:02:09 GMT -5
Some more anti-Slavic measures by the Greek state and people;
INSTRUCTIONS FOR ASSIMILATION
Always regarding the more effective denationalization a number of well-considered measures have been undertaken. The consecution of these measures could be seen on the confidential document of the Greek Ministry of the Interior that we submit in the part concerning the measures which are recommended:
Republic of Greece
Ministry of public peace
National security service
Direction ,,B"
Department II
Post Address: Katehaki and Gudi
Minutes N 650217-50428
After making in 6 chapters a full analysis of the situation in Greek Macedonia the Ministry makes the following recommendations:
VII - RECOMMENDATIONS
The activity for Free Macedonia could be successfully opposed through elimination of the language in this region. This proves that in Kostour where the use of the local language is fully eliminated this activity is entirely dead. It is necessary for the following to be done: 1. A special state representative with relevant skills to work only on this matter. He will be independent from the Intelligence Service and will cooperate with inspectors, schools, the military, churches, etc. 2. In the State Departments only persons who do not know the local language to be appointed. The same is also valid for the schools. 3. Special workshops to be organized for all state officials and priests who work in this delicate region - Macedonia. 4. A permanent sojourn of state and other officials to be provided securing them with allowances, exemption from taxes, etc. 5. A branch of the cultural organization ,,Aristotelis" to be built in Lerin and to be financially supported for publishing books, papers, journals which to strengthen the national feeling. 6. Special obstacles to be created for those who would like to go to school to Skopje like no recognition of diplomas, no deferment of call up etc. 7. In every village, to be found persons who for payment of wage will struggle against usage of'the local dialect. These should be people having large connections and influence over the local population. 8. The persons who are members of the military forces, intelligence service, state authorities and organizations, born in this region (Lerin) to be moved to other regions of the country. 9. The military management to stimulate the acquaintances and marriages of officers from this region and other regions of Greece with Women from local villages where the local dialect is spoken.
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Republic of Greece Security Service in Salonica General-major Dimitrius Kapelaris Information Department Colonel Constantinos Bugatos For Departments:
1. "A", "C" and "D" 2. All security departments in Salonica
08.03.1982 Salonica
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 8, 2011 5:08:19 GMT -5
Greece is one of the most anti-Slavic nations in the world. ok, but we just followed the orders/propaganda of thy great Gods and mighty masters the English. We are so inferior to them, that we must do exactly as we are told. If they order us to be anti-slav, we will do it right away. Did it ever pass your mind that: a) the greece/albania/makedonia UK projects serve this purpose and smth more? b) the great makedonia serves the same purpose from the opposite side? just think about, that when you act like mad about Alex, you are repeating Greece's mistakes. And you become anti-greek, in the same sense that Greeks became anti-slav.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 8, 2011 5:12:37 GMT -5
"who knows, maybe more Greeks live today in Serbia than in Greece.....cause there is no way on earth that our accent has a greek origin." Pyrro brate, the serbian tribe that arrived in Balkans (south balkans) were recorded to have taken prisoners and serbianised those people (during war). So its no surprise that some Serbs have a Greek appearance and can pass as a Greek down in peloponese, lof of dudes (and chicks) are "russian" blond, go figure ;D
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Post by Sokol on Dec 8, 2011 18:08:36 GMT -5
Greece is one of the most anti-Slavic nations in the world. ok, but we just followed the orders/propaganda of thy great Gods and mighty masters the English. We are so inferior to them, that we must do exactly as we are told. If they order us to be anti-slav, we will do it right away. Did it ever pass your mind that: a) the greece/albania/makedonia UK projects serve this purpose and smth more? b) the great makedonia serves the same purpose from the opposite side? just think about, that when you act like mad about Alex, you are repeating Greece's mistakes. And you become anti-greek, in the same sense that Greeks became anti-slav. Pyrros you speak of govt actions. I can agree with you on this. However I speak of the people and their hatred of us. The greek people hate Slavs, aswell as Turks and Albanians.
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