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Post by uz on Dec 20, 2011 19:47:57 GMT -5
If you don't recognize Kosovo, how do you recognize the Mac motive in getting a "Kosovan" political party... you see my point? You need to be more ciritcal or at least stay consistent.
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Post by Moe Lester on Dec 20, 2011 19:48:04 GMT -5
We Serbs had shed our BLOOD for you little scum bags, or as l should say, you little F'ing bulgars, F-off and worry about your kin the Bulgarians. Novi, you've done nothing. In fact, the majority of Serbs around the world and in Serbia have done nothing for Macedonians.
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Post by uz on Dec 20, 2011 19:52:04 GMT -5
^ says the Frenchman ...
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Post by Novi Pazar on Dec 20, 2011 19:58:26 GMT -5
Actually, l don't give a crap what and when is your slava Chento (i'm ashamed that BuLgari even have slavas), l have no more feelings for your people. l feel l have lost so much time sharing with people here about the history of the southern balkans, its just fallen on deaf ears, l should had just kept the truth to myself and let god shape the Balkans to his desires.
PS Maybe it was Gods desire for the Ex-Serbian Vardarians to eventuate as a Tarto-Bulgar slav race. Your mongolian race even murdered my king Alexander in France, your cousins the Turks, hid Mihailov away, a huge anti-serb.
Look to Bulgaria and get cozy with them and rid of your slava, its shameful you even celebrate it.
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Post by Moe Lester on Dec 20, 2011 20:01:19 GMT -5
If you don't recognize Kosovo, how do you recognize the Mac motive in getting a "Kosovan" political party... you see my point? You need to be more ciritcal or at least stay consistent. Serbia has 10 political parties in Kosovo.
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Post by Moe Lester on Dec 20, 2011 20:02:27 GMT -5
^ says the Frenchman ... What do the French have to do with Macedonians?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Dec 20, 2011 20:02:59 GMT -5
"Novi, you've done nothing. In fact, the majority of Serbs around the world and in Serbia have done nothing for Macedonians."
Moe, read some history and don't shame yourself like the Turko Tartar here.
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Post by uz on Dec 20, 2011 20:03:35 GMT -5
If you don't recognize Kosovo, how do you recognize the Mac motive in getting a "Kosovan" political party... you see my point? You need to be more ciritcal or at least stay consistent. Serbia has 10 political parties in Kosovo. Am I suppose to support that move? I don't get your point, like it's some news or something.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Dec 20, 2011 20:08:14 GMT -5
"If you don't recognize Kosovo, how do you recognize the Mac motive in getting a "Kosovan" political party... you see my point? You need to be more ciritcal or at least stay consistent."
Correct. His a hypocrite and a BuLgarin.
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Post by Moe Lester on Dec 20, 2011 20:08:30 GMT -5
Moe, read some history and don't shame yourself like the Turko Tartar here. Why tell me to read some history? Didn't the Macedonians revolt against Serbia, and you Serbs crushed there chances of autonomy?
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Post by Moe Lester on Dec 20, 2011 20:09:43 GMT -5
Am I suppose to support that move? I don't get your point, like it's some news or something. Of course not. I was just trying to show you that people can have ethnic political parties in Kosovo, without other people of the same ethnicity accepting or supporting Kosovo's independence.
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Post by Sokol on Dec 20, 2011 20:12:39 GMT -5
"Novi, you've done nothing. In fact, the majority of Serbs around the world and in Serbia have done nothing for Macedonians." Moe, read some history and don't shame yourself like the Turko Tartar here. Moe is right, Serbs have done nothing but occupy Macedonia in the past and try to forcibly make us into serbs. Any fighting the Serbian army did in Macedonia was for Serbia's interest, not the Macedonians. It was for the expansion of Serbia's borders. It can however be argued that Tito did something for us, but he was a Croat/Slovene and not a serb...
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Post by Sokol on Dec 20, 2011 20:13:45 GMT -5
Am I suppose to support that move? I don't get your point, like it's some news or something. Of course not. I was just trying to show you that people can have ethnic political parties in Kosovo, without other people of the same ethnicity accepting or supporting Kosovo's independence. +1
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Post by uz on Dec 20, 2011 20:18:47 GMT -5
Am I suppose to support that move? I don't get your point, like it's some news or something. Of course not. I was just trying to show you that people can have ethnic political parties in Kosovo, without other people of the same ethnicity accepting or supporting Kosovo's independence. You're talking apples and oranges. Obviously people can be split. But one person? Chento dances from one side to the other, whichever makes his new identity feel real... you know... while showing all signs of desperation. If I went all out supporting the Serbian-"Kosovan" political parties, how would that make sense regarding my overall stance? I support the insitituation, but I don't support it at the same time... I think you're brighter than this moe.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Dec 20, 2011 20:22:13 GMT -5
"Moe is right, Serbs have done nothing but occupy Macedonia in the past and try to forcibly make us into serbs. Any fighting the Serbian army did in Macedonia was for Serbia's interest, not the Macedonians. It was for the expansion of Serbia's borders. It can however be argued that Tito did something for us, but he was a Croat/Slovene and not a serb..."
Moe is never right, you got to be deluded to agree with this views. I'm not going to ever explain myself when it comes to Vardar, don't give a crap anymore, go to the BuLgari, they are your brothers, both your grandfathers fought with them. Time to drop this BS fantasy and admit your BuLgar Turko origins.
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Post by uz on Dec 20, 2011 20:23:57 GMT -5
"Novi, you've done nothing. In fact, the majority of Serbs around the world and in Serbia have done nothing for Macedonians." Moe, read some history and don't shame yourself like the Turko Tartar here. Moe is right, Serbs have done nothing but occupy Macedonia in the past and try to forcibly make us into serbs. Any fighting the Serbian army did in Macedonia was for Serbia's interest, not the Macedonians. It was for the expansion of Serbia's borders. It can however be argued that Tito did something for us, but he was a Croat/Slovene and not a serb... Where's your Tito statues? Show some respect. What did Alexander or Philip do for the Macedonia of today?
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Post by Moe Lester on Dec 20, 2011 20:25:46 GMT -5
Obviously people can be split. But one person? Chento dances from one side to the other, whichever makes his new identity feel real... you know... while showing all signs of desperation. I don't know much about Chento's views, but I don't see Chento dancing from one side to the other. All he cares about (As far as I know) is about Macedonian autonomy and recognition of their ethnicity. If I went all out supporting the Serbian-"Kosovan" political parties, how would that make sense regarding my overall stance? You may not support the independence or even accept it. But you can still support the political parties in kosovo. If you don't accept the independence of Kosovo, why talk about Serbia being reunited with Kosovo? Why talk as Kosovo has been stolen if it's already part of Serbia? This kind of extreme irrationalism only makes you look idiot. I support the insitituation, but I don't support it at the same time... And how is that possible without being in the same position as Chento?
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Post by Moe Lester on Dec 20, 2011 20:27:05 GMT -5
What did Alexander or Philip do for the Macedonia of today? Call them Serbs, most likely. I mean, Macedonia was called Southern Serbia/Old Serbia during those times.
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Post by rex362 on Dec 20, 2011 20:31:05 GMT -5
"Moe is right, Serbs have done nothing but occupy Macedonia in the past and try to forcibly make us into serbs. Any fighting the Serbian army did in Macedonia was for Serbia's interest, not the Macedonians. It was for the expansion of Serbia's borders. It can however be argued that Tito did something for us, but he was a Croat/Slovene and not a serb..." Moe is never right, you got to be deluded to agree with this views. I'm not going to ever explain myself when it comes to Vardar, don't give a crap anymore, go to the Bu Lgari, they are your brothers, both your grandfathers fought with them. Time to drop this BS fantasy and admit your Bu Lgar Turko origins. NAH !....see from your slavic brothers Chento ....serves your right ......and of course Novi is correct about it plus it digs in better when your slav brothers tell you the truth than an Albanian telling you the same ....WHY ?bcs your simply slav <MACEDON YOUR ASS>
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Post by uz on Dec 20, 2011 20:35:55 GMT -5
You're logic doesn't work. Tho I see where you're coming from. It's almost like the logic Tadic was using regarding the EU.
"We can fight for Serbia's rights over Kosovo better while being an EU member" (something along those lines).
^ that never made any sense to Serbs, since the EU created that mess to begin with, and also while most of the EU members recognized Kosovo.
Your idea of fighting from within sounds nice, but in the long run it's only counter-productive. How are the Serbs in the Kosovo "government" suppose to do business with Serbia? It's just going to complicate shit which is the point.
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