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Post by king on Dec 21, 2011 1:04:26 GMT -5
Attitudes in ancient Europe Most ancient writers were from the Southern European civilisations, and generally took the view that northerners were barbarians. Pale skin and light hair were described as signs of barbarism by Polemon of Laodicea in his book Physiognomica.[4] Pseudo-Aristotle[5] noted differences between Greeks and the people of the north, believing that Greek superiority was visible in their medium skin tone, as opposed to pale northerners and dark southerners and Africans. He claimed that blue eyes were a sign of a cowardly nature, and that they indicated poor eyesight.[6] Despite this, Aphrodite was often depicted with blonde hair, as were deities associated with the sun.[7] Likewise, the Roman historian Tacitus idealized the Germanic tribes (which he considered autochthonous to their land) for qualities such as superior warlike ardor and chastity, in contrast to the Romans of his day - though his portrait is not unmixed - as he also portrays them as incurably lazy and addicted to gambling.[8][9] Many Romans believed that fair features were beautiful. Wealthy Romans paid for blond and red wigs made from the hair of captured Germanics or Celts.[1en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_race--- Nowadays everyone tries to whiten himself and darken the enemy, but old greeks said its an sign of barbarism to be blonde,blue and pale...... i mean look at this forum even turks make references to their blonde countrymen and want to pass as "white"...they say "we turks have so pale skin and we are blonder than greeks"......
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Dec 21, 2011 9:48:27 GMT -5
The ancients despised the 'pale people' because they did not understand genetics. Light features are more rare than dark and thus coveted more by people who observe these kinds of thing. For example , in any given mixed popuation , and say everyone mixes , the end result would be a darker people with nearly all signs of light complection gone. It's in the nature of genetics. Light people have more variety and broader diversity complection to where darker people have far less.
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Post by king on Dec 21, 2011 9:56:49 GMT -5
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Dec 21, 2011 11:06:47 GMT -5
^ Didn't say it was better but a lot of people ( non Blonde) obviously thought/think it is aesthetically more beautiful to have light features and aspire to achieve that.
Don't believe me? Look at countries where the majority of people are dark. Look at their 'beautiful people' on TV ( soap operas) and in movies and magazines. How do they look?
When I lived in California we always got the Mexican TV station ( Univision). All I saw on there were unbelievably hot chicks but nearly all of them were airbrushed to appear more fair and made their brown eyes hazel via contacts and colored their hair a little lighter or even hired people from northern Spain ( light people) to star in their shows. It's what people want to see and consider beautiful.
Some tribal Aztec girl just doesn't cut it in their opinion. Sad? Kinda . But its true.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Dec 21, 2011 11:09:42 GMT -5
How many attractive ( or what most people consider attractive) Black women straighten their hair and dye it lighter to make it more like a white woman's and how many of them are half white at least? Beyonce anyone?
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Post by king on Dec 21, 2011 11:14:41 GMT -5
OK but the oppossite is also true, nordics go to solarium to get an tanned skin tone. I didnt said black negroid women are attractive but darker caucasians are very attractive, i can speak only for me but the proto-type gypsy is my favourite. or indo-medditeranoid type, robust meditteranoid,indo-afghan or hindu however you want to call it. gypsy women were praised for their rare exotic beauty by european.
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Post by king on Dec 21, 2011 11:16:55 GMT -5
I must tell you that Bosnian Gypsy Woman are of a rare beauty and know how to make the most of their charms. As dancing woman and ballet-girls they enter the harems distracting the hearts of the beys and pashas and they are often met in public places dancing in picturescque costums on a piece of carpet.--- Tissot Attachments:
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Dec 21, 2011 11:18:19 GMT -5
Olive skin tone is normally preferred but so are green eyes. My point is there is a bigger tendency for darker people to make themselves look light rather than the opposite.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Dec 21, 2011 11:22:02 GMT -5
I don't find those females in that picture really attractive at all. I do agree , every now and then you get a very very attractive 'exotic' girl of predominately dark complection but its not a common thing. For every 1 really hot darker girl ( lets say gypsy) there are maybe 20 unattractive 'typical' ones. Lighter or white women ( and men) have a more regular frequency of attractive people beacuse of wider variance in their gene pool.
Like I said I saw drop dead gorgeous hindi and asian girls before but it seemed more like the exception than the rule.
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Post by king on Dec 21, 2011 11:28:59 GMT -5
Olive skin tone is normally preferred but so are green eyes. My point is there is a bigger tendency for darker people to make themselves look light rather than the opposite. One of my in laws has green eyes. Among darker people light eyes occurs in lower frequencies. One of my extended uncles has light grey eyes. I dont agree that lighter women are hotter on average. Just that european women take more care of themselfes than gypsy women. Creame, Make up,Hygiene,Healthiness play important factors. For me gypsy women are hottest, exotic types like iranians, armenians, pakistani are very hot. Its just like people think afghan women or pakistani women are ugly because they dont do all those beauty things european women do. I saw so many european women and found majority of them to be average looking.
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Post by missanthropology58 on Dec 21, 2011 12:15:29 GMT -5
people tend to like what is rare so in countries where the population is generally dark, they will like light people, and in countries where population is generally light, they will tend to like the tanning and all this stuff. Personally, I have brown dark hair, brown eyes and very pale skin (wich makes quite a big contrasts between the hair and eyes and the skin). I like my hair colour, but my skin is little to pale for my taste. Agreed.
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Post by punisher on Dec 21, 2011 14:06:55 GMT -5
my sisters,parents are all blond lol i'm the only one who has brown hair and the exotic green eyes LOL i'm not so into exotic chicks i rather have the usual dinarci chick or the germanic ones. we have here alot of north africans and they are exotic and you got one hot chick or two but the majority look all the same black hair brown eyes no difference like us. that's what i like about us europeans you have all kinds
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Dec 21, 2011 14:13:12 GMT -5
Olive skin tone is normally preferred but so are green eyes. My point is there is a bigger tendency for darker people to make themselves look light rather than the opposite. One of my in laws has green eyes. Among darker people light eyes occurs in lower frequencies. One of my extended uncles has light grey eyes. I dont agree that lighter women are hotter on average. Just that european women take more care of themselfes than gypsy women. Creame, Make up,Hygiene,Healthiness play important factors. For me gypsy women are hottest, exotic types like iranians, armenians, pakistani are very hot. Its just like people think afghan women or pakistani women are ugly because they dont do all those beauty things european women do. I saw so many european women and found majority of them to be average looking. Hey man , that's great. It's really an opinion after all and I'm not saying ur right or I am. My personal preference is mine alone. My ideal woman physically would have dark blonde / reddish hair , blue or green eyes , and milky skin along with being a little chubby but not fat. It's just what I find attractive. My only point was that look at the popular media in any of these countries and the 'social standard' of beauty and they all tend to lean towards western white women.
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Post by punisher on Dec 21, 2011 14:15:24 GMT -5
One of my in laws has green eyes. Among darker people light eyes occurs in lower frequencies. One of my extended uncles has light grey eyes. I dont agree that lighter women are hotter on average. Just that european women take more care of themselfes than gypsy women. Creame, Make up,Hygiene,Healthiness play important factors. For me gypsy women are hottest, exotic types like iranians, armenians, pakistani are very hot. Its just like people think afghan women or pakistani women are ugly because they dont do all those beauty things european women do. I saw so many european women and found majority of them to be average looking. Hey man , that's great. It's really an opinion after all and I'm not saying ur right or I am. My personal preference is mine alone. My ideal woman physically would have dark blonde / reddish hair , blue or green eyes , and milky skin along with being a little chubby but not fat. It's just what I find attractive. My only point was that look at the popular media in any of these countries and the 'social standard' of beauty and they all tend to lean towards western white women. you just describe mine ideal woman too LOL
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Post by king on Dec 21, 2011 14:15:26 GMT -5
they feature fairer people true its an beauty idol, but not neccessarily an european idol. i know in india fair skin is admired but not the european look, fair indians look still differently than europeans. and yes we cannot argue about tastes in women, everyone is entitled to his opinion
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Dec 21, 2011 14:16:29 GMT -5
people tend to like what is rare so in countries where the population is generally dark, they will like light people, and in countries where population is generally light, they will tend to like the tanning and all this stuff. Personally, I have brown dark hair, brown eyes and very pale skin (wich makes quite a big contrasts between the hair and eyes and the skin). I like my hair colour, but my skin is little to pale for my taste. These are mostly flirty attractions but not stable. If this were the case you would see much mixing between light and dark people and all you would have left is mostly dark people since the dark features trump the light genetically speaking. On average , in all these places , people end up with their counterpart that's pretty similar to them and their children share those features and the cycle continues. And example would be for any Swedish girl that's with a black man or dark man , 100 other Swedish girls are with light Swedish or European men ( or men with women , either way).
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Dec 21, 2011 14:20:26 GMT -5
they feature fairer people true its an beauty idol, but not neccessarily an european idol. i know in india fair skin is admired but not the european look, fair indians look still differently than europeans. and yes we cannot argue about tastes in women, everyone is entitled to his opinion I didn't say European. But fair complection is more or less the standard. For example like that Mexican TV I told you about. They had this Mexican model , fair skin , long milky legs , blue eyes ... you would swear she looked like Heidi Klum , they had her in photos with Mexican flag and all this Mexican pride and she was interviewed speaking Mexican spanish because well , she's from Mexico. Thing to remember is that they only show this kind of woman because men in Mexican society are going to find her more attractive than a traditional Mexican girl you would see everyday in most places in Mexico.
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Post by king on Dec 21, 2011 14:21:42 GMT -5
yes fair skin and light eyes are admired but for example blonde hair is looked down upon, a mixed english/indian girl competing for miss india in australia was attacked as "not indian looking"
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Post by punisher on Dec 21, 2011 14:22:04 GMT -5
i still chose this white girl(albanian artist)over beyonce anytime lol
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Post by king on Dec 21, 2011 14:22:57 GMT -5
i dont like negroid or mullato girls at all......
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