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nicetas
Feb 23, 2012 13:36:45 GMT -5
Post by tsompanos on Feb 23, 2012 13:36:45 GMT -5
Stop believing fairytales, the aromanians in thessaly were always there
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nicetas
Feb 23, 2012 14:58:04 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 23, 2012 14:58:04 GMT -5
"They also pronunce lupi (wolves) as „luchi” (luki) just like in Moldavia and some other parts of Romania."
Where in Moldavia do you pronounce lupi as luchi? I have never heard this. This sounds like a bad Muntenian joke.
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Feb 23, 2012 15:35:59 GMT -5
Post by Catcher in the Rye on Feb 23, 2012 15:35:59 GMT -5
I think more common in Moldova is „lupchi” but I'm not sure „luchi” isn't used at all. ”— Fă Anițoooo!... — pauză — dare-ar boala-n tine! Iar te-ai pus cu găinile la dughit... mânca-te-ar lupchii să te mănânce!...” În Munții Neamțului de Calistrat HogașThat's the best Romanian variant of all. Check the language of these three ursitoare. Isn't it sweet? Hai să pregătim la nănaşi ci-or puni în covaţâ la scălduşâ. Nieri di alghini, sâ hii dulci la vorbâ şâ bun la suflet. O chiatrâ, să hii vârtos şi sănătos ca şâ chiatra. Lapti dulci sâ aibâ chelea albâ ca laptili dulci.
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Feb 23, 2012 15:51:58 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 23, 2012 15:51:58 GMT -5
That's cute, but such a great mistake of us to leave the peasantry to determine that which should be authethical. This, in actuality, is what the Muntenian decided. Our elites are dead, or are hidden in the dark. the day when we honoured the peasants is the day when we killed Moldavia.
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Feb 23, 2012 16:57:08 GMT -5
Post by ivo on Feb 23, 2012 16:57:08 GMT -5
Anittas, tell me honestly (I really don't mean this as an insult).. are you a heterosexual?
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nicetas
Feb 23, 2012 20:22:15 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 23, 2012 20:22:15 GMT -5
Anittas, tell me honestly (I really don't mean this as an insult).. are you a heterosexual? No, I'm not "a heterosexual", I'm heterosexual.
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Feb 23, 2012 21:03:45 GMT -5
Post by ivo on Feb 23, 2012 21:03:45 GMT -5
Ok, I don't get it.. are you a homo or not?
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nicetas
Feb 23, 2012 22:11:17 GMT -5
Post by Novi Pazar on Feb 23, 2012 22:11:17 GMT -5
"We know the Aromanian pronounce „cinci” (five) as „ţinţi” (tzintzi), that seem to be so striking that they are sometimes called Tzintzari. They also pronunce lupi (wolves) as „luchi” (luki) just like in Moldavia and some other parts of Romania. So that guy had a clear Aromanian name: „Ţinţiluchi” (Cincilupi/Five Wolves)." Its the exact same process of evolution bewteen Serbs/Vardarians and Bu Lgari. Our common mother language, whom we all developed from, was Old Church Slavonic, however, it doesn't necessarily mean Fyromians and Bu Lgari are one people because their languages are closest to each other in its evolved form. Their evolution was set in a similar ENVIRONMENT, to find ones exact origins you need to look at migrations and culture
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Feb 24, 2012 6:45:19 GMT -5
Post by ivo on Feb 24, 2012 6:45:19 GMT -5
Language is but a single element, which has hardly ever been used as the main argument.. point is:
- Macedonians identified as ethnic Bulgarians until recently
- Macedonians have been identified as ethnic Bulgarians by practically all sources, including early Serbian ones
- Macedonian immigrants to North America from the early 1900's have built churches which they referred to as 'Macedono-Bulgarian' or simply as 'Bulgarian'
- Macedonians and Bulgarians celebrate the same national heroes, even today
- The most patriotic Macedonian organization of all, the IMRO, has been historically Bulgarian and even when they fought for an independent Macedonia their ethnic Bulgarian identity has been clearly recorded.
- We know that there were extensive anti-Bulgarian initiatives throughout Macedonia when it was under Serb rule, and later under Yugoslav rule; we know that it was a crime to identify as Bulgarian.
- We also know that during the early days of communist Bulgaria there were initiatives to create a new 'ethnic Macedonian' identity and Bulgarians throughout Pirin Macedonia were forced to call themselves 'Macedonians', much like they were forced to do the same in Yugoslavia.
- And finally, we have the language, which is unlike any other Slavic language having a completely different grammatical structure.. coincidentally, the situation is the same with Bulgarian.
Any day you actually do decide to have a proper discussion on these matters, let me know and we'll proceed.. I'll continue to post properly cited sources, focusing on neutral authors; and I hope you've learned enough by now to actually post more than your standard 5 out-of-context quotes that you've been COPY/PASTING here over the years.
And I'm still waiting for you to come through on your promise to "talk about the IMRO".. or did you conveniently forget about that?
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Feb 24, 2012 7:36:29 GMT -5
Post by ioan on Feb 24, 2012 7:36:29 GMT -5
Novi, stay out of this thread and forum. We are not discussing the Macedonians here. Of course what Ivo pointed out is absolutely true.
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nicetas
Feb 24, 2012 10:05:00 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 24, 2012 10:05:00 GMT -5
Macedonians were never Bulgarian, even if their identity might have been, to some part, Bulgarian. If they had been Bulgarian, they would've looked Bulgarian. It's obvious that Macedonians are a mixture of Slavs and local Thracian groups, including ancient Macedons.
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Feb 24, 2012 10:44:01 GMT -5
Post by ivo on Feb 24, 2012 10:44:01 GMT -5
^ According to you. Buuuut, your opinion counts for shit. Anyway, I would really like to know so here we are again.. Ok, I don't get it.. are you a homo or not?
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nicetas
Feb 24, 2012 10:52:32 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 24, 2012 10:52:32 GMT -5
I already replied to that question.
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Feb 24, 2012 11:07:28 GMT -5
Post by ivo on Feb 24, 2012 11:07:28 GMT -5
Yeah, I saw your reply.. however, the manner in which you wrote it was by far too complex for one of average intelligence to comprehend its meaning. And so I'm asking you to dumb it down so that I can understand.
Don't be bitter. Are you a homo or not?
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nicetas
Feb 24, 2012 11:15:17 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 24, 2012 11:15:17 GMT -5
I am not homosexual. Now can you tell me why you asked and what relevance that would have to this forum?
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Feb 24, 2012 13:36:42 GMT -5
Post by ivo on Feb 24, 2012 13:36:42 GMT -5
Ok, great. I had thought there was something fishy about you from a while back, based on your views about gays, some of your emotional outbursts, and the overall manner in which you write.
This was the trigger though..
Waaait a minute, are you a bisexual?
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nicetas
Feb 24, 2012 13:53:19 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 24, 2012 13:53:19 GMT -5
I'm not following you. Why did you bold the text "that's cute"? I fail to see the connection. I know where this is leading. This is leading to you saying something stupid and me giving you language lessons.
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Feb 24, 2012 14:11:57 GMT -5
Post by ivo on Feb 24, 2012 14:11:57 GMT -5
Ok see, this is what I mean. Tone down the emotions, it was just a question. A humorous one at that, if I may say so myself.
And "that's cute" is gay. Sorry to tell you, but that's just how it is.
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Feb 24, 2012 15:36:31 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 24, 2012 15:36:31 GMT -5
I'm not being emotion at this moment. I'm pretty numb right now, actually. To be emotional takes a lot of energy and my mojo is on a big low right now, I'll just leave you for this alternative definition for the word cute (source: Dictionary.com):
"mentally keen; clever; shrewd."
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Feb 24, 2012 19:21:29 GMT -5
Post by Novi Pazar on Feb 24, 2012 19:21:29 GMT -5
"Language is but a single element, which has hardly ever been used as the main argument."
BS, it has been the arguement of BuLgari and the only arguement.
"Macedonians identified as ethnic Bulgarians until recently"
When the satanic Exarchos with converted agents terrorised the local Serbian population.
"Macedonians have been identified as ethnic Bulgarians by practically all sources, including early Serbian ones"
Verkovic was an ethnic croat, whom he later admitted he was inspired by an elderly BuLgarin gentleman, his works were just a fables, as was Venelin, that evil Rutheran snake. Its a serious mental disorder you BuLgari have, nothing is remotly mongolian in the Balkans, and you know this Ivo. Just to add about sources, western authors from whom you gleen, like Hugo Grothe made mention that Bulgarian inroads into unconguered slavic territories prior to the 9th century were UNDOUBTEDLY conducted by mauraders and had LEFT NO ETHNIC traces on these territories, wereas for Serbs, it was a completely different matter.
"Macedonian immigrants to North America from the early 1900's have built churches which they referred to as 'Macedono-Bulgarian' or simply as 'Bulgarian'"
The result of the Bulgarianised Serb whom the Exarchos baptised in his satanic church, post 1872.
"Macedonians and Bulgarians celebrate the same national heroes, even today"
Again, this is the result of the satanic exarchos running around holy serb lands. I would like to go deeper and say the toponyms are Serbian in Fyrom, the culture in Fyrom is Serbian, the monastries in Fyrom are Serbian (built by Serbs) and much more.
"The most patriotic Macedonian organization of all, the IMRO, has been historically Bulgarian and even when they fought for an independent Macedonia their ethnic Bulgarian identity has been clearly recorded."
I notice every single point your mentioning here stems from the Exarchos period, again, as above, these local Serbs were Bulgarianised. You have to remember, since you don't have a brain, THE RUSSIANS WERE FUNDING YOU MONGOLS TO THE TEETH BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO MAKE YOU INTO A POWER KHANATE SO SHE COULD DESTROY TURKEY FROM (LIKE A BASE).
"We know that there were extensive anti-Bulgarian initiatives throughout Macedonia when it was under Serb rule, and later under Yugoslav rule; we know that it was a crime to identify as Bulgarian."
No, your Mongol brain, likes to twist everything up-side-down. Tell me you stupid mongol, why did the croat (in the union of serbs, croats and slovenes) go and support separtists in Southern Serbia (fyrom/vardar) and have secret meetings with you mongols in Sofia? In Serbo-slavia days, the Tito communists (comprising mainly of Slovenes and Croats) created the state of Vardar and made their church an autonomous arm of the SOC. You know your such a stupid Mongol and a hypocritical one too, why then, wasn't it a CRIME to identify as a Mongol in Pcinja or Banat regions of Serbia? Can your Mongol brain be able to handle it.
"And finally, we have the language, which is unlike any other Slavic language having a completely different grammatical structure.. coincidentally, the situation is the same with Bulgarian."
Its just a red herring. I can then safely say Old Church Slavonic is Serbian because Serbian has retained the old Serbian declensional systems when they first came to settle in Vardar and Northern Greece back in the 550 to 600AD period. Your Bulgarian east asian mind cannot comprehend that languages do evolve and change due to locality and contacts, so according to your logic, my ancestors from Lutasia are POLISH because their language today is most closest to Polish? One other thing idiot, can a serb from today understand a serb from the 6th century? There were no serbian/bulgarian or whatever language then, it was simply known as SLAV.
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