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Feb 24, 2012 20:15:52 GMT -5
Post by Moe Lester on Feb 24, 2012 20:15:52 GMT -5
Novi, if you're going to argue, then actually create an argument and not just call him "stupid", "mongol" and "hypocritical".
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Feb 25, 2012 10:09:17 GMT -5
Post by ivo on Feb 25, 2012 10:09:17 GMT -5
Pazar, you still seem to be under the impression that Macedonia "was Serbian". But you're very far from the truth. Serbs have always been an isolated minority and have never even come close to forming a majority.
Now lets drop the old school Serb propaganda as it's a waste of space, and it clearly isn't fooling anyone.
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elemag
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Feb 26, 2012 4:21:02 GMT -5
Post by elemag on Feb 26, 2012 4:21:02 GMT -5
Pazar, you haven't posted here for a long time. What have you been busy with? Have you finally managed to find time to read your own sources?
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nicetas
Feb 26, 2012 7:13:50 GMT -5
Post by Novi Pazar on Feb 26, 2012 7:13:50 GMT -5
^ you see Ruseche, l don't come often because l don't really associate myself with mongol tribes. Honestly, l don't see the Bulgarians as a slavic people too, there is too much east asian links.
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ioan
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Feb 26, 2012 10:07:33 GMT -5
Post by ioan on Feb 26, 2012 10:07:33 GMT -5
you come here more than enough - you better not post here - that would be amazing.
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ivo
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Feb 26, 2012 14:05:28 GMT -5
Post by ivo on Feb 26, 2012 14:05:28 GMT -5
The terms 'Slavic' or 'Slav(s)' is an ethno-linguistic designation. So yes, Bulgarians are Slavs.
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nicetas
Feb 26, 2012 18:03:31 GMT -5
Post by Novi Pazar on Feb 26, 2012 18:03:31 GMT -5
^ the name Bulgar isn't slavic, its east asian, non indo-european.
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nicetas
Feb 26, 2012 18:23:08 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 26, 2012 18:23:08 GMT -5
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elemag
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Feb 26, 2012 18:32:59 GMT -5
Post by elemag on Feb 26, 2012 18:32:59 GMT -5
You know, Anittas, most things become pretty tasteless after a certain point.
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nicetas
Feb 26, 2012 18:38:48 GMT -5
Post by uz on Feb 26, 2012 18:38:48 GMT -5
I do notice a lot asian style influence. But that can be mostly cultural take over rather than ethnogenesis. Most Bulgarians I know look Slavic to me, but I do notice that most Bulgarians have black hair (which probably doesn't mean anything).
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Feb 26, 2012 18:48:51 GMT -5
Post by elemag on Feb 26, 2012 18:48:51 GMT -5
Which nation on the Balkans have predominantly blond hair?
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nicetas
Feb 26, 2012 18:50:34 GMT -5
Post by uz on Feb 26, 2012 18:50:34 GMT -5
Which nation on the Balkans have predominantly blond hair? Who said anything about blond? The majority of Slavs that I know have brown hair, except Bulgarians.
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elemag
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Feb 26, 2012 18:59:18 GMT -5
Post by elemag on Feb 26, 2012 18:59:18 GMT -5
Well, I guess I am some sort of minority in Bulgaria with my brown hair. Before I started to shave my head, of course
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nicetas
Feb 26, 2012 20:25:11 GMT -5
Post by uz on Feb 26, 2012 20:25:11 GMT -5
Well, I guess I am some sort of minority in Bulgaria with my brown hair. Before I started to shave my head, of course I only stated that through the Bulgarians I know, I don't know many so my observation shouldn't be considered "valid". Is it true that brown-haired Bulgarians are a minority, or is that you being sarcastic again...
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nicetas
Feb 26, 2012 23:52:20 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 26, 2012 23:52:20 GMT -5
Ruse belongs to the Thracian stock. He don't count as Bulgarian. He's Vlach.
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Feb 27, 2012 3:36:50 GMT -5
Post by ioan on Feb 27, 2012 3:36:50 GMT -5
I d say Bulgarians are as slavic as the Serbs and as slavic as the Romanians are latin. As for the name Bulgar: there are lots of teories about that name, I ve heard even suggestion that it is of roman origin. Nothing is certain about that name.
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nicetas
Feb 27, 2012 4:47:37 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 27, 2012 4:47:37 GMT -5
Bulgar of Roman origin? I'd like to see the source on that one.
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Feb 27, 2012 6:18:02 GMT -5
Post by ioan on Feb 27, 2012 6:18:02 GMT -5
10. A. D. Keramopoulos, The Greeks and Their Northern Neighbors, Athens, 1945, summarized in Stilpon P. Kyriakidis, Bulgars and Slavs in Greek History (both works in Greek, Thessalonica, 1946), pp. 7-16, and ff., derives the name Bulgars from burgarii, bourgarioi, i.e., those who maintain the forts, burgi, bourgoi, purgoi along the northern boundaries of the Balkan provinces, and elsewhere in the empire, first mentioned in Greek in an inscription dated A.D. 202, found between Philippopolis and Tatar Pazardzik (and last published in Wilhelm Dittenberger's Sylloge inscriptionum graecarum, 3 ed., vol. II [1917], no. 880,1. 51, p. 593). The burgarii received land for cultivation from the government, …………………..……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….by a not uncommon metabole Bourgarioi is said to have become Boulgaroi, Bulgars, and Bourgaria is said to have become Boulgaria, Bulgaria……………………………………………………………………………………………. forum.all.bg/printthread.php/Board/history/main/2365757/type/post
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Feb 27, 2012 7:00:53 GMT -5
Post by Anittas on Feb 27, 2012 7:00:53 GMT -5
10. A. D. Keramopoulos, The Greeks and Their Northern Neighbors, Athens, 1945, summarized in Stilpon P. Kyriakidis, Bulgars and Slavs in Greek History (both works in Greek, Thessalonica, 1946), pp. 7-16, and ff., derives the name Bulgars from burgarii, bourgarioi, i.e., those who maintain the forts, burgi, bourgoi, purgoi along the northern boundaries of the Balkan provinces, and elsewhere in the empire, first mentioned in Greek in an inscription dated A.D. 202, found between Philippopolis and Tatar Pazardzik (and last published in Wilhelm Dittenberger's Sylloge inscriptionum graecarum, 3 ed., vol. II [1917], no. 880,1. 51, p. 593). The burgarii received land for cultivation from the government, …………………..……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….by a not uncommon metabole Bourgarioi is said to have become Boulgaroi, Bulgars, and Bourgaria is said to have become Boulgaria, Bulgaria……………………………………………………………………………………………. forum.all.bg/printthread.php/Board/history/main/2365757/type/postOkay, but where does it state that it might be of Roman origin?
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Feb 27, 2012 9:46:28 GMT -5
Post by ioan on Feb 27, 2012 9:46:28 GMT -5
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