Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 16, 2012 3:22:15 GMT -5
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 16, 2012 3:27:05 GMT -5
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 16, 2012 3:30:24 GMT -5
I PREFER A VLAHO_GREKO_SLAV GREECE THAT CAN SURVIVE RATHER THAN A DEAD CORPSE OF SOMETHING THAT CANNOT EVEN DIE, BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY DEAD.....
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Post by darkernative on Feb 16, 2012 4:08:08 GMT -5
It was evident for a long time. Hellenas is just like Krivo... Self-hating guy with a weak personality... He goes "butthurt dweller" here to ignore the fact that he is an Arvanite... You should embrace it Hellenas, for it is us who created Greece. It is greeks who destroyed it.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 16, 2012 4:13:56 GMT -5
It was evident for a long time. Hellenas is just like Krivo... Self-hating guy with a weak personality... He goes "butthurt dweller" here to ignore the fact that he is an Arvanite... You should embrace it Hellenas, for it is us who created Greece. It is greeks who destroyed it. I do not agree... The biggest contribution to this land were done by Slavs. They cultured the land, they loved the soil, their sweat is under anything vivid in Greece, they gave names to places. They were the LIFE and ENERGY. grekalbs just destroyed greece. Its time for hellenas to accept his albanian roots, but its time for you to acknowledge that ALBS and GREEKS fall in the exact same league.... and cannot represent the slightest hope for this land to evolve. For you claiming that Athens is albanian is true and a good thing. For me claiming that Athens is albanian is true and a bad thing. Alvelenas will not agree with any of us, of course, that's why modern Greece has such a long way to go, before she discovers who she really is and what she wants... PS Also i do not agree about Krivo. Krivo is absolutely entitled to criticize Serbs, because he is one of them. And it very natural for any slav (my wife included) to think that they superior/cleaner/better/taller/whiter/etc... than their neighboring slavs.... Do not confuse concepts...
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Post by darkernative on Feb 16, 2012 5:08:07 GMT -5
Pirro, I already explained it the impossibility of a large slav population in Morea in another thread. Do not fool yourself, the slavs never went so south. Maybe some Bulgarians settled around Rumelia and Thessaly but never in large communities. Slavs didn't play a large role in the history of Morea. It was Albanians who inhabited the land, for thousands of years ( Slavs only came after 600 AD as we all know) and it was Albanians who liberated it from the Ottoman Empire.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 16, 2012 5:17:08 GMT -5
Pirro, I already explained it the impossibility of a large slav population in Morea in another thread. Do not fool yourself, the slavs never went so south. Maybe some Bulgarians settled around Rumelia and Thessaly but never in large communities. Slavs didn't play a large role in the history of Morea. It was Albanians who inhabited the land, for thousands of years ( Slavs only came after 600 AD as we all know) and it was Albanians who liberated it from the Ottoman Empire. man, i cannot believe that you are SO uninformed. there 1000s of sources about the MASSIVE SLAVIZATION of SOUTHERN GREECE... Vasmer's book is a good starting point to your (long) journey. You start to act and speak like Hellenas...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 16, 2012 5:20:59 GMT -5
Also DAI by porfyrogenitos could give some clues as well....
albanian migrations to athens and southern greece were recorded ONLY after the FRANKISH-VENETIAN conquest of Morias (read 1200+).
loads of sources man...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 16, 2012 5:22:46 GMT -5
books.google.gr/books?id=YIAYMNOOe0YC&pg=PA108&lpg=PA108&dq=%22in+723,+Willibald+a+western%22&source=bl&ots=l_4rBWpq7z&sig=-pRU3zkNhNoSkuVhXr6GVWWxpYE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=SdY8T_mhFcaVswaNhLn6BA&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22in%20723%2C%20Willibald%20a%20western%22&f=false florin curta is on ok source as well... and of course, TRAVELING YOURSELF and see the signs (with the slavic placenames) on road yourself with your own eyes is even better ;D PS what is debatable is WHO has more slavic toponyms??? Morias??? or ALBANIA?? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by darkernative on Feb 16, 2012 5:25:44 GMT -5
There were several waves of Albanian migrations.
The first one is not even a migration... The pelasgians inhabit that land since the start The second one was in Ancient Greece, mainly from Illyria The third one was during the Byzantine days The forth one is the modern Albanian migration to greece.
You see, we are both the original inhabitants and the first comers by migration. The slavs came a long time after us.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 16, 2012 5:42:55 GMT -5
There were several waves of Albanian migrations. The first one is not even a migration... The pelasgians inhabit that land since the start more "Hellenas"-style reasoning. I appreciate that you dont bark left and right like your countrymen (and my countrymen), but i really cannot continue this, if you bring into the table pelasgians and other such creatures 100% irrelevant with modern albs and modern greeks as well... I could bring Deretic and Milojevic style history which claim northern africa as Serbian, and believe me they have MORE evidence than you or hellenas about connecting albs-greeks with pelasgians....
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Post by darkernative on Feb 16, 2012 5:52:21 GMT -5
Well, if you decide on continuing the debate about the pelasgian-albanian language connection, I could bring evidence Pirro. But its up to you.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 16, 2012 6:25:57 GMT -5
I know of 3 pelasgian words which made it to Greek : Vasileus, hmmmmm oops i forgot the other two... ;D lithoksou.net/print/pre_greek.html here is a list with 200+ supposedly ancient pre-hellenic words... How much of them are found in albanian (as original words?)
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Post by darkernative on Feb 16, 2012 6:27:52 GMT -5
I don't know Greek Pirro. But I will shortly present you a pelasgian-Albanian language similarity table.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 16, 2012 6:30:39 GMT -5
There were several waves of Albanian migrations. The first one is not even a migration... The pelasgians inhabit that land since the start The second one was in Ancient Greece, mainly from Illyria The third one was during the Byzantine days The forth one is the modern Albanian migration to greece. You see, we are both the original inhabitants and the first comers by migration. The slavs came a long time after us. maybe, uh, you should take up freestyle rapping, since you're so fluent in making things up as you go along...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 16, 2012 6:31:17 GMT -5
I don't know Greek Pirro. But I will shortly present you a pelasgian-Albanian language similarity table. alright this list above is the max you can get out of pelasgian words. ths site belongs to a pathological anti-greek. lets see what we got.... bear in mind that those "pelasgian" words were adopted by the greeks MUCH EARLIER THAN 400 BC!!!! You understand the risks of your ambitious plan already??? yes??? lets go on...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 16, 2012 6:32:46 GMT -5
There were several waves of Albanian migrations. The first one is not even a migration... The pelasgians inhabit that land since the start The second one was in Ancient Greece, mainly from Illyria The third one was during the Byzantine days The forth one is the modern Albanian migration to greece. You see, we are both the original inhabitants and the first comers by migration. The slavs came a long time after us. maybe, uh, you should take up freestyle rapping, since you're so fluent in making things up as you go along... lol yes!
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Post by darkernative on Feb 16, 2012 6:42:52 GMT -5
I don't know Greek Pirro. But I will shortly present you a pelasgian-Albanian language similarity table. alright this list above is the max you can get out of pelasgian words. ths site belongs to a pathological anti-greek. lets see what we got.... bear in mind that those "pelasgian" words were adopted by the greeks MUCH EARLIER THAN 400 BC!!!! You understand the risks of your ambitious plan already??? yes??? lets go on... well can't be more ambitious than your "Slavic Toponyms in X, Y, and Z" research but I will do my best. @krivo, I see that you have nothing useful to add... Maybe you should keep quiet and let intellectuals like me do our jobs?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 16, 2012 6:46:16 GMT -5
alright this list above is the max you can get out of pelasgian words. ths site belongs to a pathological anti-greek. lets see what we got.... bear in mind that those "pelasgian" words were adopted by the greeks MUCH EARLIER THAN 400 BC!!!! You understand the risks of your ambitious plan already??? yes??? lets go on... well can't be more ambitious than your "Slavic Toponyms in X, Y, and Z" research but I will do my best. @krivo, I see that you have nothing useful to add... Maybe you should keep quiet and let intellectuals like me do our jobs? lol.... your denial has no ending .... here it goes, my ambitions about slavic toponyms : LMAOOOOOOOOOOO kroraina.com/knigi/en/mv/index.html^^^ you will find evidence for Morias (peloponese)
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 16, 2012 6:48:02 GMT -5
^^^ still studying still dazed??? still confused??? LMAOOOO take that to bring you in total devastation LOL
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