atdhetar
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 22, 2012 16:56:09 GMT -5
this is a celebration of lunacy when kurvo goes full retard. uz, serbs were at the fringe, they're the periphery of history, an entire millenium went by without them leaving their mark, look serbian history books are a direct adaptation of lords of the rings, truth be told i am astonished how you have not been sued for copyright infringement! have you noticed how that artist rendition of millosh kopiliqi is a little auspiciously similar to froddo? funny because J.R.R. Tolkien based much of Lord of the Rings on Serbian folk tales, and even spoke fluent Serbian. Not really. Tolkien tried to learn both Russian and Serbian but never actually learned either. Tolkien: “Slavonic languages are for me almost in the same category [i.e., no aptitude]. I have had a go at many tongues in my time, but [...] the time I once spent on trying to learn Serbian and Russian have left me with no practical results, only a strong impression of the structure and word-aesthetic.” Tolkien's mythopeic work was mostly based on Germanic mythology and language with Celtic and Finnish mythology and language coming after that. The only sound theories about anything Slavic derived in Tolkien's work is Radagast, which likely comes from some old-Slavic pagan god, and a few names; 'Boromir' and 'Faramir'. There's also the Variags; stemming from Varangians.
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atdhetar
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 22, 2012 16:57:45 GMT -5
Albanian Army Officer Killed in Afghanistan
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Post by terroreign on Feb 22, 2012 17:01:26 GMT -5
you claimed serbs were a peripheral people, talk about buffoon...haha "peripheral" we're the center of the universe baby!
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 22, 2012 17:03:35 GMT -5
high five ^he caught your grandparents a while back. what does that mean tardy? he caught them how? he captured them? caught up with them? caught them off guard, there is nothing more amusing than watching a mentally challenged vagina like you attempting to come up with something midly funny
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Post by Shqipni13 on Feb 22, 2012 17:21:12 GMT -5
Krivo you definitely have lost a step or two after your layoff from here. And your racism has intensified. Everything alright kiddo?
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 22, 2012 17:23:34 GMT -5
The theories on Skanderbeg's mother is that she's either Albanian, Bulgarian or Serb. Most likely, she was both Albanian and Bulgarian. Her father was a Bulgarian lord, according to Marin Barleti. She was related to the Muzaka family on her mother's side, according to the Muzaka family's own chronicle. The Serb theory relies mostly on her name sounding Slavic being similar to the name Vojislava and her being Orthodox. As for the Kastrioti family; none of their names were Slavic. I found this: s14.invisionfree.com/AlbanianLibrary/ar/t110.htm In my opinion, this poster refutes much of what has been said here. Basically, the one who proposed Branilo as the founder of the Kastrioti family did so because he overlooked that it was Branilo and Kastrioti, not Branilo Kastrioti, that were mentioned in some document.
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 22, 2012 17:25:14 GMT -5
Krivo you definitely have lost a step or two after your layoff from here. And your racism has intensified. Everything alright kiddo? can you post that character assessment of kurvo from priso if you managed to dig it out?
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atdhetar
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 22, 2012 17:28:16 GMT -5
does anyone have the old posts from kurvo when he was an albanian nationalist?
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Post by Anittas on Feb 22, 2012 17:53:57 GMT -5
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 22, 2012 18:05:24 GMT -5
well this douche was calling serbs all sorts of names apparently, i wasn't around then, how does a mentally stable person flip like that? someone must have performed a lobotomy procedure on him at some point.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Feb 22, 2012 18:28:47 GMT -5
Atdhetar, I looked for it last night while at work and couldn't find. I'll try later.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 22, 2012 19:57:51 GMT -5
wow this is so embarrassing. i'm embarrassed athedar good job! lol you're a fail
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Post by terroreign on Feb 22, 2012 21:53:33 GMT -5
this? this was the refutation? this is clearly wrong. his mother's name was Voisava/Vojislava which is slavic either way. this already refutes this guy's claim that "none of his family had slavic names". skanderbeg's siblings: Stanisa (Slavic), Repos (Slavic), Jela (Slavic), Vlajica (Slavic). so, clearly - wrong. As for Branilo being the creator of the Kastriot family, many sources attest to this, and in fact Skanderbeg's nephew is named Branilo as well! i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad211/bluesone2/History1/FamilleCastriota.jpg?t=1285840665Owned. As for Tolkien being fluent in Serbian, so maybe i exaggerated. But he did learn it, and studied it. Proves my point that Serbian is all-and-all more relevant contrary to what rathedar was blabbing.
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Post by Anittas on Feb 22, 2012 22:07:06 GMT -5
Tolkien studied Serbian and Russian briefly, just to get an idea of their composition. He was a philologist, a sage in his own right. He studied many languages and his stories are heavily influenced by Norse mythology.
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Post by groet on Feb 22, 2012 22:20:45 GMT -5
this already refutes this guy's claim that "none of his family had slavic names". skanderbeg's siblings: Stanisa (Slavic), Repos (Slavic), Jela (Slavic), Vlajica (Slavic). As far as I know, Stanisha and Reposh are not Slavic names, neither are Maria, Angjelina or Vlajka. Jelena probably is. That's not an original document, that's taken out of some French book. The theory of 'Branilo' being the great-grandfather of Skanderbeg is based on a mistake. D:\hadu1511\Documents\My Pictures\hhs2.jpg[/img] Not to mention that Thomas Preljubovic was the ruler of Yanina at that time (1367-1384), not this Branilo. Attachments:
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Post by terroreign on Feb 22, 2012 23:11:19 GMT -5
Stanisha, Reposh and Vlajka are 100% slavic. this i don't have time to argue over because if you had even 1% knowledge of slavic languages you'd know this. angjelina and maria are latin.
i have searched for the original document showing this 'mistake' (which most academics promote), with the signatures where a "branilo" signs and a person named "kastriot" signs it (who signed with their surname in the 14th century?), but so far no luck.
This also ignores the fact that by all records skanderbeg's brother's son was named Branilo also. Who later islamicized into Hamza.
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Post by groet on Feb 22, 2012 23:35:39 GMT -5
Stanisha, Reposh and Vlajka are 100% slavic. this i don't have time to argue over because if you had even 1% knowledge of slavic languages you'd know this. angjelina and maria are latin. Neither Stanisha, Reposh or Vlajka are Slavic name as far as I know. You'll just have to prove it, like we all do. I doubt you're going to find that original document. The actual document from 1368 speaks of Branilo and Kastriot as two separate persons. I don't know why you're claiming academics would support a simple mistake like that, even when taking into account how Branilo never ruled over Yanina and that the document itself refers to Branilo and Kastrioti as two different persons. Also, I don't understand why you would still go on about this, when it has already been refuted. Skanderbeg didn't have a son called Branilo, or Hamza for that matter, he did have a son called Gjon, however. You're probably thinking of his nephew, who was born as Hamza. The document translated to Albanian: Attachments:
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Post by terroreign on Feb 23, 2012 0:06:45 GMT -5
Stanisha, Reposh and Vlajka are 100% slavic. this i don't have time to argue over because if you had even 1% knowledge of slavic languages you'd know this. angjelina and maria are latin. Neither Stanisha, Reposh or Vlajka are Slavic name as far as I know. You'll just have to prove it, like we all do. Stanisa - from proto-slavic staniti "to stand", common modern Serbian name Repos - from proto-slavic rep "tail" Vlajka - from slavic vlajka "flag", although in other sources her name is Vlajica which means "little vlach" in slavic. well then find it for me. though even if they are, then how could a man named 'kastriot' have ruled janina when thomas preljubovic was ruling it by all accounts? It was referencing Kanina, a castle in southern albania, not Ioanina, the city. I said skanderbeg's brother's son. Stanisa, had a son named Branilo, this is common knowledge. from an unbiased source: books.google.com/books?id=0Sz2VYI0l1IC&pg=PA550&dq=branilo+hamza&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IslFT8OqE_PoiAK-7_GFCQ&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=branilo&f=false
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Post by plisbardhi on Feb 23, 2012 3:41:54 GMT -5
I have the original scanned document, but its unreadable. And it doesn't say Kastriot ruled over Janina, its says Kanina. Read the picture of the page groet posted, its in Albanian but you can see it says keshtjellari i Vlores Branilo edhe keshtjellari i Kanines Kastrioti. Edhe meaning and. Meaning Branilo and Kastrioti, not Branilo Kastioti. Now keep on with the handle of the fictitious Branilo Kastrioti, its fitting for all the other fiction you expound here.
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atdhetar
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 23, 2012 5:03:19 GMT -5
the boy has been endowed with the gift of comedy, what's the difference between a pig and atdhedar? athedar is alive when being skewered
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