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Post by rex362 on Feb 13, 2013 13:29:52 GMT -5
It is high treason for a Greek or Serb to acknowledge Albanians as descendants of the Illyrians
It keeps their conception of a Quasi Genetic unity of each of their races together -Fact-
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 13, 2013 15:35:13 GMT -5
Man, don't you get it, Serbs and Greeks don't give a fuck about you, it is YOU albanians who are overstating their relevance and want some sort of recognition for it FROM US.
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Post by rex362 on Feb 13, 2013 16:31:28 GMT -5
your a typical serbian
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 13, 2013 17:05:52 GMT -5
i don't give a fuck about you yet i spend 99% of my daily life trying to discredit albanians ahaha,
i don't give a fuck about you yet i get a head splitting migrane everytime you post an impartial source supporting the illyrian connection.
ah uz, you're a wanker of the highest calibre.
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 13, 2013 17:43:50 GMT -5
You guys are the ones throwing around claims, we're just shutting you down.
You two especially really suck, you lack foundational knowledge which explains your quasi stance and position concerning "identity". lol you guys openly disgrace your own ancestors under some Serb pretext, that's how fucked in the heads you are. Rex you're more american than albanian, and adt... well you're just a cock deprived dried up cunt.
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Post by rex362 on Feb 13, 2013 18:16:21 GMT -5
PLTHHHHHHHHEFWAPPWAPPPPPTHHHHHHHH
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 14, 2013 10:03:59 GMT -5
You guys are the ones throwing around claims, we're just shutting you down. You two especially really suck, you lack foundational knowledge which explains your quasi stance and position concerning "identity". lol you guys openly disgrace your own ancestors under some Serb pretext, that's how f**ked in the heads you are. Rex you're more american than albanian, and adt... well you're just a c**k deprived dried up c**t. you cock ornament, watch your fucking mouth you insolent little bitch, don't make dish out some acrite up in this joint, you have the personality of a glory hole you fucking dildo!
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Post by rex362 on Feb 14, 2013 10:08:15 GMT -5
glory hole ....
ahhahhahaahahahahah
uh ....whats this ? what are you trying to say here
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Post by littleboyfatman on Feb 16, 2013 10:27:13 GMT -5
I see a lot of people here claiming this, or that Albanian comes from Thracian or Pelasgian. Is somebody able to provide evidence of this? I am only interested in actual examples of vocabulary and grammar, so please no nationalistic trash. From reading about the Illyrian and Thracian languages it looks like they are more similar to Slavic than Albanian, but i have only just started to read about this and have not made a conclusion yet. if you are a "reaseacher" like you claim... than you are a realy dumb one...
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Post by rex362 on Feb 16, 2013 16:27:39 GMT -5
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 16, 2013 17:10:55 GMT -5
this wanker uz will debunk and expose you by qouting other people from other message boards and pass them off as legitimate sources.
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Post by rex362 on Feb 16, 2013 17:10:59 GMT -5
some other tidbits about Alb language seems the Albaniains that did any reading/writing used much Latin extensively now watch what Guillelmus Adae wrote about Albanians .... first who he is : then is what he said about Albanians .... Translated : "Albanians really have a language quite different from Latin. Yet they use Latin letters in all their books"
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 16, 2013 17:36:25 GMT -5
now watch uz counter with his most reliable and indisputable source...his own insightful take on history, but seriously though its not like he cares about albanian history.
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Post by riddick on Jun 16, 2017 6:24:06 GMT -5
Hello I started to be interest in illyrians quite recently because of new findings in area of dna, which are acctually showing today something else then alot people are claiming here. they recently tested escavated bones for mtdna if i m not wrong which is showing that ex yugoslav countries have more similarities with ancient illirians then albanians, lets say like 30,40 until 70 % that ex yu people are the so called illirians until 18th century. and have read that albanians have just 2,5 % similarity, another interesting thing is that people on this area was called illirian until 19th century, after 19th century catholic church is dividing them as a serbs, croatians,bosnians,montenegrians and more. This is all coming from archives of catholic church. It was found that Albanians was brought of some ruler georgius manijak in 1043 as a shepherd, thats why it could be that they are mentioning them from 15 century, could be political reasons of bigger forces.but until now its discovered lot of things from period of writing thread could be checked on eupedia dna findings. link to Starcevo civilization on wiki en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star%C4%8Devo_cultureCitate from eupedia : Haplogroup I is the oldest major haplogroup in Europe and in all probability the only one that originated there (apart from very minor haplogroups like C1a2 and deep subclades of other haplogroups). Haplogroup IJ would have arrived from the Middle East to Europe some 35,000 years ago, then developed into haplogroup I soon afterwards. It has now been confirmed by ancient DNA test that the first Homo sapiens to colonize Europe during the Aurignacian period (45,000 to 28,000 years ago), belonged to haplogroups CT, C1a, C1b, F and I. Haplogroup I2a1 Haplogroup I2a1 is by far the largest branch of I2 and the one most strongly linked to Neolithic cultures in south-east, south-west and north-west Europe. Haplogroup I2a1b-L621 This branch is found overwhelmingly in Slavic countries. Its maximum frequencies are observed among the Dinaric Slavs (Slovenes, Croats, Bosniaks, Serbs, Montenegrins and Macedonians) as well as in Bulgaria, Romania, Moldavia, western Ukraine and Belarus. It is also common to a lower extent in Albania, Greece, Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, and south-western Russia. I2-L621 (L147.2+) is also known as as I2a-Din (for Dinaric). The high concentration of I2a1b-L621 in north-east Romania, Moldova and central Ukraine reminds of the maximum spread of the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture (4800-3000 BCE). No Y-DNA sample from this culture has been tested to date, but as it evolved as an offshoot from the Starčevo–Kőrös–Criş culture, it is likely that I2a was one of its main paternal lineages, and a founder effect could have increased considerably its frequency. The Cucuteni-Trypillian culture was the most advanced Neolithic culture in Europe before the Indo-European invasions in the Bronze Age and seems to have had intensive contacts with the Steppe culture before the expansion of Yamna to the Balkans and Central Europe (see histories of R1a and R1b). From 3500 BCE, at the onset of the Yamna period in the Pontic-Caspian Steppe, the Cucuteni-Trypillian people started expanding east into the steppe of what is now western Ukraine, leaving their towns (the largest in the world at the time), and adopting an increasingly nomadic lifestyle like their Yamna neighbours. It can easily be imagined that Cucuteni-Trypillian people became assimilated by the Yamna neighbours and that they spread as a minority lineage alongside haplogroups R1a and R1b as they advanced toward the Baltic with the Corded Ware expansion. Alternatively, I2-L621 lineages could have lived in relative isolation from the mainstream Proto-Indo-European society somewhere around Ukraine, Poland or Belarus, then as the centuries and millennia passed, would have blended with the predominantly R1a populations around them. The resulting amalgam would have become the ancestors of the Proto-Slavs. Another interesting thing was that Teodorova Toleva (Bulgarian) made a doctor disertacion using Royal Vienna Archives where she finded a documents from 1896 if i m not wrong that the Albanian Nation was constructed by Austro-Hungary citate web : Namely, the doctoral thesis of the recently deceased Bulgarian historian Teodora Toleva (1968-2011) in Spanish under the original title in Spanish La influencia del Imperio Austro-Hungaro en la construccion nacional albanesa (1896-1908), in which she in a factographically rich book divided into ten chapters explains her vision of the genesis and development of the Albanian nation in the late 19th and early 20th Centuries. The Bulgarian editing house Siela published her work in Bulgarian posthumously, and the German translation of this work under the title Der Einfluss Osterreich-Ungarns auf die Bildung der albanischen Nation 1896-1908 was also published in December 2013. i m very sorry if i offended somebody with my post, but i would really like to know history about everything, and i trust more to science like Kulturology, forensic antropology osteology, genetic dnaology, linguistic, mineralogy etc.. Then political and nationalistic sayings. and i see how they are destroying some nations which are actually autohton on that area. and this would not be the first time that media is saying lies.. almost forgot to say linguinist says that albanians language roots have similarities with chechenian language With Respect to science and all people (hope we get on the right track) Robert
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 2, 2017 14:41:44 GMT -5
Albanians have great relation to the Illyrians. They have one huge thing in common. Neither tribe ever existed.
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Post by rex362 on Jul 6, 2017 17:19:13 GMT -5
vlachs are of an Illyrian branch as well
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Post by rex362 on Feb 14, 2018 15:14:24 GMT -5
"The Albanian language, a hybrid between Illyrian, Thracian, Latin, Slavic, Turkish, and other elements, reflects the ethnically composite origin of the Albanians. "
By Carleton Stevens Coon - The Races of Europe (1939)
I see nothing wrong with that ....all it simply states is that Albanians exist during those times
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Post by branislavnusic on Jun 10, 2018 7:48:27 GMT -5
"The Albanian language, a hybrid between Illyrian, Thracian, Latin, Slavic, Turkish, and other elements, reflects the ethnically composite origin of the Albanians. "
By Carleton Stevens Coon - The Races of Europe (1939)
I see nothing wrong with that ....all it simply states is that Albanians exist during those times It doesn't say that, It says that all those races combined create the Albanian race.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jun 11, 2018 0:51:02 GMT -5
I don't know if this video is really inaccurate but in this video it shows that Illyrians are an italic people who spoke a CENTUM language, Albanians today speak a SATEM language.
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Post by Pyrros on Jun 11, 2018 1:32:07 GMT -5
Bro, this satem / centum thingy is a german invention of post-1800.
They say that Greek is closer to west cause it is centum. But this german theory is supposedly based on the word : 100. Greek : eKaTO German/english : hundred (irrelevant) Latin : Cent Slavic : STO
the greatest proximity is between : eKaTO and STO.
Anyways, I think that Greeks (true greeks not the albanians of modern greece) were direct descendants (fork) of the Great Slavs. Then followed Latins, who had 100% Slavic grammar (Venecia/Venedi), and finally Germans.
All whites are children of the SLavs.
Slavic is the oldest language on earth, and the oldest civilization.
Hence all the hate.
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