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Post by Novi Pazar on May 5, 2012 20:39:22 GMT -5
^ No UZ, can't be, they are Saudis not innocent Albanians
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Post by Shqipni13 on May 6, 2012 4:34:23 GMT -5
I'm Muslim, well if asked what religion I am, that is my response. I've never even read the koran. A lot of these assholes do make the religion come off as violent, aggressive. Like the dipshit's shirt "Islam will dominate the world". Uz it does seem like a problem. I'm not worried about our image towards the west or your people's thoughts towards it. But it has and will cause factions, division amongst the Albanian people. I see what Enver Hoxha was doing during his time in making Albania an atheist state.
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Post by Novi Pazar on May 6, 2012 7:35:29 GMT -5
^ Shqipni, why don't you tell your religious leaders about this kind of behavour, they do have influence on their adherants, right?
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Post by Nikola on May 6, 2012 7:47:09 GMT -5
A question to the Albanians here; do the Albanians that were arrested and in the video above look like Albanians to you? I've been looking at images of Albanians from Albania and they look different to the Albanians I'm used to from Macedonia. I even have to wonder if Albanians in Macedonia are not Albanianised Turks or something because that's what they mostly look like.
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Post by uz on May 6, 2012 10:45:58 GMT -5
I'm Muslim, well if asked what religion I am, that is my response. I've never even read the koran. A lot of these A*****es do make the religion come off as violent, aggressive. Like the dips**t's shirt "Islam will dominate the world". Uz it does seem like a problem. I'm not worried about our image towards the west or your people's thoughts towards it. But it has and will cause factions, division amongst the Albanian people. I see what Enver Hoxha was doing during his time in making Albania an atheist state. Before religion ever came into the picture, we were first and foremost, Europeans. In the near future this^ reminder may be all we got.
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Post by Shqipni13 on May 6, 2012 15:02:58 GMT -5
A question to the Albanians here; do the Albanians that were arrested and in the video above look like Albanians to you? I've been looking at images of Albanians from Albania and they look different to the Albanians I'm used to from Macedonia. I even have to wonder if Albanians in Macedonia are not Albanianised Turks or something because that's what they mostly look like. Maybe the beards are throwing you off.
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Post by atdhetar on May 6, 2012 16:53:49 GMT -5
A question to the Albanians here; do the Albanians that were arrested and in the video above look like Albanians to you? I've been looking at images of Albanians from Albania and they look different to the Albanians I'm used to from Macedonia. I even have to wonder if Albanians in Macedonia are not Albanianised Turks or something because that's what they mostly look like. well in manastir there was a sizeable turkish community back in the day but mac albs are as albanian as they get, i wouldn't rule out that there might be some engulfed minorities that could be a possibility, and that surname ismailovic raises a few eyebrows but who knows
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Post by valmir on May 6, 2012 17:08:50 GMT -5
A question to the Albanians here; do the Albanians that were arrested and in the video above look like Albanians to you? I've been looking at images of Albanians from Albania and they look different to the Albanians I'm used to from Macedonia. I even have to wonder if Albanians in Macedonia are not Albanianised Turks or something because that's what they mostly look like. The Albanians i know in my city(Kumanovo) and in my classrom are 100% European look, some of them blonde(30%-45%)(including me) but when i see those fucking faces waving Albanian flag i get mad cus i know they are Albanised turks And the worst thing is we accepted Turks and Roms in our mosques, like this they got Albanised
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Post by Shqipni13 on May 6, 2012 17:53:21 GMT -5
My origins are from Bulqize (dad's side) and Lume (mom's side). So, Nikolla I am a foreigner....lol.
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Post by mystery on May 6, 2012 21:28:24 GMT -5
Well, I think the reason Islam is "flourishing" in Macedonia as it's way to show nationalist pride and to compete. Religion is one of the few things Balkanoids can use to distinguish themselves and many use it as a sense of pride. In Macedonia Islam=Albanian and Orthodox= Macedonia, both sides will build places of worship and express their fanaticism to flex their muscles. It's all bullshit.. You don't see Albanians in Albania shouting Allah Akbar or Albanians in Kosova shouting Allah Akbar, just in Macedonia in a few rare cases.
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Post by Nikola on May 6, 2012 21:39:50 GMT -5
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Post by Shqipni13 on May 7, 2012 1:54:27 GMT -5
Well, I think the reason Islam is "flourishing" in Macedonia as it's way to show nationalist pride and to compete. Religion is one of the few things Balkanoids can use to distinguish themselves and many use it as a sense of pride. In Macedonia Islam=Albanian and Orthodox= Macedonia, both sides will build places of worship and express their fanaticism to flex their muscles. It's all bulls**t.. You don't see Albanians in Albania shouting Allah Akbar or Albanians in Kosova shouting Allah Akbar, just in Macedonia in a few rare cases. I think it's more prevalent in Macedonia. But I remember being in Tiranë with my dad in 2005 and seeing plenty of young men with long beards and just wondering wtf? in the middle of Tiranë? And the first burqa I've ever seen in the balkans was in Gjilan. This shit needs to be crushed while they are still a minority. As long as the economy sucks in this region, the numbers will only continue to grow.
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Post by concernedreader on May 7, 2012 6:25:35 GMT -5
I am dissapointed in the albanians in macedonia. they are protesting in support of people that killed 5 innocent people, only because they are albanian.
I doubt if the roles were reversed, and we had macedonians kill 5 innocent albanians, and the macedonians were arrested, you would see almost 10,000 macedonians marching asking for the murderers to be free.
Its also disappointing seeing albanians making claims that they will destroy the country because of these things, or using this as excuse to push their nationalist propaganda to destabilize the country.
To me it seems like hypocrisy and double standards from the albanians.
I get the impression that albanians are not a very fair or honorable people, and always like to cry foul and are never wrong and cant take the blame. Bit sad really.
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Post by Novi Pazar on May 7, 2012 6:45:01 GMT -5
Nikola, if you want to know something, in Kosovo i Metohija, the Turks had a sizeable number but due to *Albanian* pressure these Turks were assimilated into an Albanian ethnos. PS If look at 20th century Kosovo census' the Turks early in the 20th century had a sizeable population, and towards the end of the 20th century, they were almost non-existant
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Post by ralphtpika on May 7, 2012 10:47:53 GMT -5
Nikola, if you want to know something, in Kosovo i Metohija, the Turks had a sizeable number but due to *Albanian* pressure these Turks were assimilated into an Albanian ethnos. PS If look at 20th century Kosovo census' the Turks early in the 20th century had a sizeable population, and towards the end of the 20th century, they were almost non-existant I wonder if such an esteemed scholar such as yourself has ever heard about the expulsions of the Albanians and Turks from Kosova from mid to late 19th century? Vaso Cubrilovic wrote quite a detailed piece on the urgency and necessity to expel the Albanians and colonise Kosova with Serbs and Montenegrins, due to the fact Serbs have proven to be inherently impotent in the struggle to contain Albanians and their population, how did that work out for you, both times? I think you slavs should worry less about the numbers of Albanians, where the Turks went and more on how best to mount your women. Therein lies your dilemma..
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Post by atdhetar on May 7, 2012 10:58:52 GMT -5
spot on ralph, spot on
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Post by valmir on May 7, 2012 11:23:34 GMT -5
Another picture from Shkupi-Skopje
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Post by uz on May 7, 2012 13:38:21 GMT -5
Nikola, if you want to know something, in Kosovo i Metohija, the Turks had a sizeable number but due to *Albanian* pressure these Turks were assimilated into an Albanian ethnos. PS If look at 20th century Kosovo census' the Turks early in the 20th century had a sizeable population, and towards the end of the 20th century, they were almost non-existant I wonder if such an esteemed scholar such as yourself has ever heard about the expulsions of the Albanians and Turks from Kosova from mid to late 19th century? Vaso Cubrilovic wrote quite a detailed piece on the urgency and necessity to expel the Albanians and colonise Kosova with Serbs and Montenegrins, due to the fact Serbs have proven to be inherently impotent in the struggle to contain Albanians and their population, how did that work out for you, both times? I think you slavs should worry less about the numbers of Albanians, where the Turks went and more on how best to mount your women. Therein lies your dilemma.. You have it backwards. Cubrilovic understood the Albanian expansionist mentality and their adherence to outside forces. He was right about that, no one can argue against it. Just look at the matters of fact. This goes for everything else as well. Serbs were ethnic cleansing Croatia, bosnia, Kosovo? Well.... look at the matters of fact, now. Serbs are the only ones who have been ethnically cleansed. There is no dilemma amongst Serbs, this is our advantage. Our goals are straight-arrow, "everyone" elses' are flimsy, weak, with no-direction and their bases (especially the Albanian one) if fully based on others', not themselves. Just look at the protests in Bujanovac, calling for American help and NATO-- while many of them are pro-Jihadists and waving Saudi flags. Such cowards!!! and shameful that they call themselves Balkanians.
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Post by uz on May 7, 2012 13:39:50 GMT -5
Another picture from Shkupi-Skopje Absolute cowards and a demonstration of mentality. thanks for showing us this.
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Post by valmir on May 7, 2012 13:48:20 GMT -5
If we (albanians) were a big nation and we did this to a smaller nation or maybe to a nationality that never had problems with us,i would have fucking killed them but knowning that they have to do with a slav and someone who have dne genocid all over Balkan i am disapointet they didn't ate him there!
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