Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 15, 2012 2:05:30 GMT -5
you tried to connect some guy from norway with "northern" greece, that was hilarious. Not me illiterate moron, the Scientists as well. LOL, the biggest problem of Greece, is that any albanian from attica can wear the hat of the "scholar". PS have you ever been to thesaloniki?. Was ... MUCH blonder than lets say Tripoli ? i need a scientific answer LMAOOOO
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Post by bowandarrow on May 15, 2012 8:03:16 GMT -5
There's no proof in that.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 15, 2012 9:37:30 GMT -5
hellenas is desperate, no time wasted here
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Post by Hellenas on May 15, 2012 20:18:05 GMT -5
"Pyrro", why don't you shut up? You know nothing about as well.
You are illiterate conserning Anthropology and Genetics.
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Post by Hellenas on May 15, 2012 20:20:44 GMT -5
You are the last of the Greeks??? And all other Greeks are not Greeks but Albanians WHAT AN EGOIST MORON ...
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on May 15, 2012 23:37:57 GMT -5
Helenas
Pyrros obviously has emotional issues and that is why he is not making much sense in this kind of topic. Just post scientific data and viewpoints and ignore him as if he is a irrelevant child is my advice.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 16, 2012 3:06:40 GMT -5
^^^^ sorry, i knew all along that :
- genuine greeks were not blond - all dark ppl from the balkans (and the whole world - universe) are originally greek - any swede, danish, norwegian, etc... not 100% blond is greek, and most probably all blondes of this world (and the universe) stem from northern greece, which is absolutely *stuffed* with blond people
Do i make sense now?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 16, 2012 3:09:36 GMT -5
^^^ LMAO dudes,
my dear emperor admin, do you know that half of modern greek makedonian population came from pontos in 1921? and that they were really dark? And that also the natives were also "darkish"?
and now we have hellenas, claiming the norwgian dude as having "northern greek" genes??
and i do not make sense?? and you ask for helenas to continue his "scientific" work??
Emperor, i will say this to you directly... I HAD BETTER OPINION ABOUT THE CRNOGORCI.
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Post by bowandarrow on May 16, 2012 7:37:04 GMT -5
Well really..Who are you on about the Thracians?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 16, 2012 8:03:19 GMT -5
^^^ according to my observations here in Bulgaria, Thracians are very different than greeks, mainly : 1) they are cheerful, they love music, they are open to people, they are the nation of fun and entertainment! the number of karaoke bars in Sofia VS Athens (ha ha ha ha ha ha ha) should be enough of a proof 2) They are *REALLY* dark. despite obvious slavifications, the people of bulgaria are still dark, the majority. You see a small percentage (10% ) of pure slavs, but the majority (especially outside the big cities) is dark. darker than the greeks. But then again, the percentage of Euro-looking , slav-looking ppl in Sofia is greater than Athens... its very weird to explain. after all, bulgarians are a WONDERFUL nations.... my hat off to Bulgaria
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Post by alay on May 16, 2012 10:34:25 GMT -5
www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J2_Y-DNA.shtml"All the great seafaring civilizations from the middle Bronze Age to the Iron Age were dominated by J2 men". Also, I double checked what you said about Albanians, Hellenas, and you were right Albanians were almost exclusively J2b2, not J2b(M12). Still it is interesting to see such high frequency of J2 in Albania. I guess it is proof of ancient Greek influence
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Post by corvus on May 16, 2012 10:47:10 GMT -5
IMO you don`t look specificly Balkanic, although you could pass there.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 16, 2012 12:27:15 GMT -5
www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J2_Y-DNA.shtml"All the great seafaring civilizations from the middle Bronze Age to the Iron Age were dominated by J2 men". Also, I double checked what you said about Albanians, Hellenas, and you were right Albanians were almost exclusively J2b2, not J2b(M12). Still it is interesting to see such high frequency of J2 in Albania. I guess it is proof of ancient Greek influence hmmm from the distribution map, i would conclude the highest concentration is in CRETE island, which is INDEED the stronghold of ancient greek blood in the modern world. So, if you have smth in common, it is with CRETE and not any other part of greece, makedonia, and other such.... Only Crete has pure blood. And of course CYPRUS (Crete's twin sister). And we could go on adding parts of southern italy as well (=pure greeks). modern greek-maks OTOH are half slavs, and the people of Attica, originally albanians.
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Post by alay on May 16, 2012 13:50:11 GMT -5
Not true. J2 is found frequently also in northern Greece.
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Post by groet on May 16, 2012 13:59:14 GMT -5
I have to say, I don't agree with Pyrros most of the time, but Hellenas is by far (hyperbole) the least scientific and by far the least rational person of this board. Any person with darker hair is Greek to Hellenas. www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J2_Y-DNA.shtml"All the great seafaring civilizations from the middle Bronze Age to the Iron Age were dominated by J2 men". Also, I double checked what you said about Albanians, Hellenas, and you were right Albanians were almost exclusively J2b2, not J2b(M12). Still it is interesting to see such high frequency of J2 in Albania. I guess it is proof of ancient Greek influence J2b in the Balkans seems to have spread from Albania. It is there it is the most frequent and it seems to be the center from where it expanded throughout Europe. That the spread of haplogroups does not necessarily correlate with relatively modern historic peoples should be considered. The spread of J2b in Norway f.e., probably happened before the Albanians and Greeks. Maybe at the advent of the neolithic, around the time it had arrived in Europe.
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Post by bowandarrow on May 16, 2012 14:08:33 GMT -5
^^^ according to my observations here in Bulgaria, Thracians are very different than greeks, mainly : 1) they are cheerful, they love music, they are open to people, they are the nation of fun and entertainment! the number of karaoke bars in Sofia VS Athens (ha ha ha ha ha ha ha) should be enough of a proof 2) They are *REALLY* dark. despite obvious slavifications, the people of bulgaria are still dark, the majority. You see a small percentage (10% ) of pure slavs, but the majority (especially outside the big cities) is dark. darker than the greeks. But then again, the percentage of Euro-looking , slav-looking ppl in Sofia is greater than Athens... its very weird to explain. after all, bulgarians are a WONDERFUL nations.... my hat off to Bulgaria Blonde doesn't make you European. There are blonde haired blue eyed mulattos. Bulgarians and Greeks are European. Also Slavs you mean Southern Slavs...Well they range like everyone elese in Europe.
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Post by ulf on May 16, 2012 19:10:18 GMT -5
I have to say, I don't agree with Pyrros most of the time, but Hellenas is by far (hyperbole) the least scientific and by far the least rational person of this board. Any person with darker hair is Greek to Hellenas. www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_J2_Y-DNA.shtml"All the great seafaring civilizations from the middle Bronze Age to the Iron Age were dominated by J2 men". Also, I double checked what you said about Albanians, Hellenas, and you were right Albanians were almost exclusively J2b2, not J2b(M12). Still it is interesting to see such high frequency of J2 in Albania. I guess it is proof of ancient Greek influence J2b in the Balkans seems to have spread from Albania. It is there it is the most frequent and it seems to be the center from where it expanded throughout Europe. That the spread of haplogroups does not necessarily correlate with relatively modern historic peoples should be considered. The spread of J2b in Norway f.e., probably happened before the Albanians and Greeks. Maybe at the advent of the neolithic, around the time it had arrived in Europe. I believe so as well. Albania most likely is source of J2b spread in northern parts of Balkan, but as far as I could see it corresponds to Cincar population more-so then Albanian
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Post by bowandarrow on May 16, 2012 19:19:28 GMT -5
E3b is Neolithic J2 is just a Near Eastern marker. I've heard it comes from Anatolia.
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Post by Hellenas on May 16, 2012 19:27:11 GMT -5
^^^^ sorry, i knew all along that : - genuine greeks were not blond - all dark ppl from the balkans (and the whole world - universe) are originally greek - any swede, danish, norwegian, etc... not 100% blond is greek, and most probably all blondes of this world (and the universe) stem from northern greece, which is absolutely *stuffed* with blond people Do i make sense now? ;D No you don't, you are just illiterate and you distort my words. You are a liar, I never said what you claim. Moron...
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Post by Hellenas on May 16, 2012 19:35:13 GMT -5
my dear emperor admin, do you know that half of modern greek makedonian population came from pontos in 1921? and that they were really dark? And that also the natives were also "darkish"? Prove it, where are the sources for this? They were a minority in Macedonia not half of population.Why you put your nose everywhere? You think you are genius in everything? Well you are not. Alay claimed that he is a Balkanian looking Norwegian and the scientific data proved that his haplogroup sub-clade is Thessalian or Macedonian=Greek. How much a moron you are and you can't understand this? It's Genetical science which claims so, not me.
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