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Post by Albanoi on Feb 20, 2008 22:10:09 GMT -5
you know what i found funny, this albanian says to me . "you know what serbs are stupid" i say "why" he says they should willingly give uo kosovo to kosovari" i'm like why tony, he says "cause albanians can't get along with one another they'll slowly start fighting , and kill each other off 1 by 1, then , it will be serbias again" i laughed so hard. this is from an albanian! a catholic albanian ,though its no secret, albanian ,catholics,and albo muslims don't like each other. that is factual, no matter what u say. but in a time like this i guess its united we stand, divided we fall.
This is the stupid thing i have heard so fare after the Independence lol. Mimi is right, how many times have we heard something like this in the past couple of years? I suggest you, next time come with something smarter than this bullshit, or don't make your self look fullish like you did on this post.
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Post by sookis on Feb 20, 2008 23:58:57 GMT -5
I couldnt find a "muslim" albanian. I tried real hard. Seems they have gone with Communism. Latest muslim statistics in Albania show they are 11%. There are more Catholics than muslims now. Are you a Muslim Albanian?
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Post by kiki on Feb 21, 2008 0:03:02 GMT -5
like i said before an albanian said this to me. the comment before of 11% being muslim and the rest catholic. i never gave a percentile. and i know in albania there are more catholics, and in kosovo more muslims? what is your point? mine was that as 1 they could never function, regardless of their ethnicity. i seriously doubt my comment was foolish, what is funny though, is that i read comments posted fom i beleive gdelfm, somethiing like that, and he stated many historical facts. and not one person on the forum, said anything remotely smart , pro or con, your comments were just ha ha ha . now that is pathetic and funny
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Post by tripwire on Feb 21, 2008 0:13:12 GMT -5
like i said before an albanian said this to me. the comment before of 11% being muslim and the rest catholic. i never gave a percentile. and i know in albania there are more catholics, and in kosovo more muslims? what is your point? mine was that as 1 they could never function, regardless of their ethnicity. i seriously doubt my comment was foolish, what is funny though, is that i read comments posted fom i beleive gdelfm, somethiing like that, and he stated many historical facts. and not one person on the forum, said anything remotely smart , pro or con, your comments were just ha ha ha . now that is pathetic and funny Sorry, NATO rejected Serbian propaganda arguments, you seriously think we would waste our time debating the rejected and tossed out the window arguments fabricated by Serbian masters like slobo, arkan and seslje? lol Get a grip and be prepared to debate the independence referendum of Vojvodina and Sanxhak soon.
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Post by kiki on Feb 21, 2008 0:40:46 GMT -5
no problem, you make a valid point. but lets first get over the debate of kosovo , which has only begun not ended
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Post by plisbardhi on Feb 21, 2008 1:20:14 GMT -5
Kiki is an idiot, what "tony" meant was that Albanians in general don't get along. He didn't mean Albanians of different religion.
See we Albanians can be very hot headed, like Montenegrins. Thats why we have a thing called blood feuds.
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Post by bordura on Feb 21, 2008 9:00:34 GMT -5
kiki, referring to you message (about the story that your Albanian friend told you) you come out as person that is pouting a little bit to much weight on anecdotal/folkloric facts. It might be true; that we Albanians (of any religion) are a bit jumpy as a character type and we also some time are "guilty" of taking some arguments personal but, rest assured that we never harassed, discriminated or killed each other along the religion lines. Now on the fun side: an American friend of mine told me yesterday that he saw an UFO! I do know what to do, to believe the guy or not... cheers bordura
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Post by Pejoni on Feb 21, 2008 16:50:26 GMT -5
Burnt body retrieved US embassy in BelgradeAn unidentified burnt body was retrieved from the United States embassy in Belgrade late on Thursday after a fire set by Serbian protestors, private Pink television reported. www.javno.com/en/world/clanak.php?id=125773
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2008 19:13:38 GMT -5
The TV images of Serbs marching through the streets of Belgrade on Thursday night, setting fire to part of the U.S. Embassy, brought back ugly memories of the nationalist rallies sponsored by former strongman Slobodan Milosevic. In some ways this riot was worse. There's a reason you don't see too many close-ups of the angry crowds: demonstrators were attacking not just foreign journalists on sight but all journalists; even ultranationalist Serbian reporters were running for cover. I have never found it this dangerous to work the streets of the capital, even during the street mayhem that preceded Milosevic's fall. Tonight, you didn't even dare talk on a mobile phone in any language other than Serbian.
If viewers had been able to examine the crowd more closely, they would have noticed something even scarier—the extreme youth of the most violent protesters. When I fell in behind a band of a couple thousand people headed for the American Embassy, I was shocked to see that many were kids who looked as young as 9 or 10. That would have put them in diapers in 1999 when Serbia went to war with NATO over the breakaway province of Kosovo, whose declaration of independence on Feb. 17 sparked these protests. You could hear them on their mobiles, smoothly assuring their parents that they weren't out in the city with the mob. There were older demonstrators, too, but most of them were teenagers, with an incendiary seeding of soccer hooligans sporting the flags and emblems of Belgrade's soccer clubs, long a breeding ground for radicals. Even they would have at best been in primary school when Serbia lost one Balkan war after another, culminating with the defeat in Kosovo.
This children's crusade was both quixotic and violent. At latest count, 96 people had been injured, 32 of them policemen, four of them foreign journalists. (One hospital reported that many of the injured protesters were drunk). The U.S. Embassy reported that a body was found inside the consulate building, burned beyond recognition. Stores and boutiques with Western brands were looted and burned. Embassies that supported Kosovo's declaration of independence were attacked and some were, like the American Embassy, set ablaze. Although police quickly regained control of the area around the U.S. Embassy, they were repeatedly overwhelmed by the numbers of protesters and on several occasions were forced to flee. The violence was still ongoing late into the night. At the United Nations, U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad promised to seek a U.N. resolution "reminding the Serb government of its responsibility to protect diplomatic facilities."
This was not the image that Serbia wanted to present to the world. Recent elections brought to power Boris Tadic, a pro-Western moderate whose main campaign pledge was to bring Serbia into the European Union. But Tadic, knowing that the march had been planned, found this an auspicious time to visit Romania. Instead Serbia's hard-line nationalist prime minister, Vojislav Kostunica, launched the protests around 5 p.m. He had declared today a sort of a national holiday, and ordered all schools, even theaters, closed, while providing buses and special trains to bring people to the capital from all over the country. It was hardly surprising that large numbers of young people showed up. Estimates of the crowd's size varied from 100,000 to 200,000, although that was still a far cry from the 1 million protesters Kostunica had hoped to draw. Many will be heading home with brand-new Nike sneakers—sports shops seemed to be, after the U.S. Embassy, the most sought after target of the young mob.
Things soon spun out of control. As they marched on the American Embassy, police charged and pushed the group back, but they regrouped and attacked, some of them throwing rocks and beer bottles—which they drained first, of course. Beer and the traditional plum brandy were much in evidence, despite the age of the protesters; the great majority of them were boys. Fortunately, the heavily fortified U.S. Embassy was vacated by the time they got there. In all of the conflicts of the Balkan wars, protesters have only once before penetrated the grounds of the embassy. But this time some of the protesters were so small they were able to squeeze through the bars. Soon they had two of the main buildings set alight, with huge fires burning inside them. More demonstrators poured into the street in front of the embassy, many taking souvenir pictures of the scene with their cell phones, others expressing disappointment that "we missed it," because they arrived too late for the action. It took police another 20 minutes to restore order, attacking with water cannons and tear gas so that fire trucks could reach the scene. The embassy was believed to have been heavily damaged, but not destroyed. The reported fatality there might have been a security guard, or even one of the children, overcome by smoke; at this point it's not clear. The B92 news agency said the body was so badly burned even the gender was unclear.
It was a sorry outcome to Serbia's declared strategy to take the high road in the dispute over Kosovo, claiming that recognition by the United States and some European countries of the province's secession was illegal under U.N. Security Council Resolution 1244, which recognized that Kosovo was a part of Serbia. Serbia's position has powerful supporters, including China, Russia and even half a dozen members of the EU. "We're not alone in our fight," Kostunica pointedly told the crowd before it turned violent. "President Putin [of Russia] is with us." Tonight's events, however, won't win the country many admirers. Children's crusades have a way of ending badly.
© 2008 Newsweek, Inc.
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Post by redbaron on Feb 21, 2008 20:59:35 GMT -5
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Post by tripwire on Feb 21, 2008 22:22:31 GMT -5
It was hardly surprising that large numbers of young people showed up. Estimates of the crowd's size varied from 100,000 to 200,000, although that was still a far cry from the 1 million protesters Kostunica had hoped to draw. ahahahahah!! who was he trying to be? Farakhan and his million man march in Washington? lololol "We're not alone in our fight," Kostunica pointedly told the crowd before it turned violent. "President Putin [of Russia] is with us." Tonight's events, however, won't win the country many admirers. Children's crusades have a way of ending badly. © 2008 Newsweek, Inc. Children's crusades! lol I guess only slobo could muster 2 million serbs in belgrade to rally the Bosnian leader to vote for rescinding Kosova's autonomy. Too bad his threats of " massive destruction in belgrade " didn't materialize if the Bosnian rejected his demand. I guess these fools put on a good show for us on DIY=how citizens can destroy their own city.
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Post by cando4u on Feb 21, 2008 22:58:06 GMT -5
how citizens can destroy their own city
Like Blacks in America , any genetics that might coincide with em ?
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