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Post by vinjak on Jul 12, 2012 18:55:29 GMT -5
Maria was the eldest daughter of an Albanian lord gjon kadtrioti she was married off to Stefan Crnojevic, George Kastrioti Skanderbeg was marias brother who rebelled against his Turk lord and served under Lord Stefan Crnojevic..... ahh got to love family What is interesting is the Crnojevic coat of arms that George fought under. can someone upload the pic of the coat of arms please i cant be stuffed opening a photo bucket account, you can find it here, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_arm_of_Crnojevic.svg
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Post by uz on Jul 12, 2012 18:58:35 GMT -5
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Post by masteralbanianknow on Jul 12, 2012 19:00:50 GMT -5
Aga Rex,he is gunning down for you
I got this one
Stefan was born in 1426 as the third son of the Zetan Duke Đurađ Đurašević Crnojević and the daughter of Albanian nobleman Koja Zaharia of the Zaharia family. He became nicknamed "Stefanica". At adulthood, he became one of the many noblemen who governed parts of Zeta within the Serbian Despotate, but did not agree with the other Crnojević members and pursued his goals on his own, outside the mainstream of the family. Stefan had three sons, Ivan, Andrija, nicknamed as the brave Albanian and Božidar, who in other sources is mentioned as his brother.
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Post by rex362 on Jul 12, 2012 19:09:11 GMT -5
Aga Rex,he is gunning down for you I got this one Stefan was born in 1426 as the third son of the Zetan Duke Đurađ Đurašević Crnojević and the daughter of Albanian nobleman Koja Zaharia of the Zaharia family. He became nicknamed "Stefanica". At adulthood, he became one of the many noblemen who governed parts of Zeta within the Serbian Despotate, but did not agree with the other Crnojević members and pursued his goals on his own, outside the mainstream of the family. Stefan had three sons, Ivan, Andrija, nicknamed as the brave Albanian and Božidar, who in other sources is mentioned as his brother. thanks MAK ....anyways this stuff looks like Albanian clannish stuff in the black mountains
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Post by vinjak on Jul 12, 2012 19:13:36 GMT -5
I got this one
lol What have you got ?
Look at the coat of arms looks like Skendenbeg might have adopted Crnojevic's coat of arms, and then it also now looks remakebly like the albanian flag, doesnt it ?
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Post by masteralbanianknow on Jul 12, 2012 19:22:35 GMT -5
like I said -but someone deleted - out of Harry Potter comic books
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Post by uz on Jul 12, 2012 19:22:39 GMT -5
the resemblance is uncanny. side note, does anyone have an explanation for that specific star on top ? look at the claws, and the inverted fluers du lis on the Kastrioti coat of arms.
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Post by uz on Jul 12, 2012 19:57:10 GMT -5
Its simply incorporated , them big shots from Montenegro are product of Albanian clan mixing and the rest slavinized Albanians The Montenegro coat of arms actually looks closest to the Russian one. Are you audacious enough to claim the Russians as some ancient lost Alb tribe ? lol
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Post by groet on Jul 13, 2012 5:00:00 GMT -5
The two headed-eagle was a Byzantine and Holy Roman symbol. Serbs, Albanians, Montenegrins, Russians, etc. adopted it from the Byzantines. The Byzantines and the Holy Roman empire might have adopted it from peoples from Asia Minor as those symbols have been found in cultures pertaining to that area that existed before the Byzantines.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 13, 2012 5:01:23 GMT -5
Its simply incorporated , them big shots from Montenegro are product of Albanian clan mixing and the rest slavinized Albanians The Montenegro coat of arms actually looks closest to the Russian one. Are you audacious enough to claim the Russians as some ancient lost Alb tribe ? lol nice observation, i have spotted this as well.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jul 14, 2012 22:07:27 GMT -5
Guys, its a mismash of Serbs marrying Serbs....END OF STORY!
PS The great Albanian-Slav Scanderbeg is a Serbo-Montenegrin ;D
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Post by pokeristi on Jul 14, 2012 22:09:40 GMT -5
No chit lol
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Post by ulf on Jul 15, 2012 6:03:37 GMT -5
the resemblance is uncanny. side note, does anyone have an explanation for that specific star on top ? look at the claws, and the inverted fluers du lis on the Kastrioti coat of arms. The double-headed eagle is symbol of ancient Sumerians and Hittites. Since the emperors of Byzantines were Armenians, who were in close ties to those two they took the sign from them, and through the Byzantines it was transported to Serbs. Anyway each of the countries which held the sign FAILED due to lack of organization, chaos and laziness
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Post by ulf on Jul 15, 2012 6:34:19 GMT -5
2 headed eagle is used by most early illyrians... those fought on lek the great side and leaved their sings everywhere in lek the great empire... than byzantine took it and finali slavs... so we can conclude most fake of al are slavs... their fakensess can be proved and facted by deleting my posts... like this one so serb people can be faked like they fakned their whole history... Pathetic fool, Byzantine emperors were mostly of Armenian origin, not Illyrian. Albanians took the sign from those people, they didn't took it from you, rest assure. Serbia got it as Stefan Nemanja married to some cousin Byzantine princess or something like that
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Post by albascorp on Jul 15, 2012 9:42:26 GMT -5
byzantine emperor got it from illyrians... btw armenian language is 2nd after albanian language oldest indoeuropian language so i see some connection
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jul 15, 2012 9:54:13 GMT -5
^ Albania many slav words, slav language in albania, albania new language peope come albania in 1081 very new people. Albania language have turkish, slav, vlach all inside mix people make new people albania
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Post by rex362 on Jul 15, 2012 10:11:19 GMT -5
how slavs say word for "clutch" for the stick shifting car ?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jul 15, 2012 10:14:24 GMT -5
^ is it Shqiptar-Albanian? Is that what your trying to prove?
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Post by rex362 on Jul 15, 2012 10:19:38 GMT -5
what is word for steering wheel ?
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Post by suart on Jul 16, 2012 9:33:29 GMT -5
First of all Vinjak; In those times there were no nations and Gjon Kastrioti's real name was Juvan and he was a slav. The albanians ''albanize'' every single name of any noble man or warrior. So they do with Androniki the wife of Djordje Kastreota, they call her Donika. All we should know is the the outside World and the real Academics know best and whom were the Kastreotis.
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