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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 4, 2012 6:36:01 GMT -5
Has anyone heard of Krepmir Ostrivojevic at all? Apparently there is a map of Serbia for this so-called King of Serbia in 815 - 840 AD.
PS I have a feeling it maybe some Pseudo garbage from Deretic? I could be 100% wrong, anyone?
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Post by rex362 on Sept 4, 2012 17:28:12 GMT -5
is that like my forced migration of Albanians to Hungaria-Vojvodina
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Post by vinjak on Sept 4, 2012 17:41:35 GMT -5
Yep this is Deretic's claims. Take with a grain of salt.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 4, 2012 22:50:59 GMT -5
Cool, thanks guys, it just doesn't gel with what l have gathered. I had a feeling it may in actual FACT be BS.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 5, 2012 5:12:03 GMT -5
Deretic? I think he is (one of the few remaining) Serb historians who really want to break the known made-up barriers in Serbian history. Deretic (and Milojevic before him) has shown that the whole slavic migration thing just could not happen technically. It would take massive forces to do such a thing. And we are talking about a language (Slavic) which dominated Europe for more than 1000 years (400->1400). Can this be answered by a migration? or By assuming that Slavs *ALWAYS* lived in those places... and that the unity of their language is the greatest linguist mystery of all times.... Slavs till today represent one of the most enigmatic (yet FULLY present and ALIVE) entities in history. maybe that's why the western prostitutes of deception try to mute and bury the slavic history at any cost.... f**king western sodomites...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 5, 2012 5:14:11 GMT -5
+ Deretic has shown that Serb Kings date back from 300 AD, and before. And that the unknown Archont BS is just jewish-roman-byzantine BS.
I mean, if a nation (Serbs/Slavs/Bulgars) is represented and portrayed as SO weak, how the funk did they manage to rename a whole penisula.. (same patterns in central/western europe)
ha ha, yesterday my mom listened to my kids speaking Serbian, and she heard the word "kajisja", and funk, she said, that is the old word in greek as well for this fruit...
i mean the agricultural vocabulary used to be 100% slavic, in lets say till 1400 AD, for all balkans...
Same story in Romania/Albanimalia (and from what i have seen Hungary as well).
The world used to be natural...... used to be Slavic.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 5, 2012 5:20:35 GMT -5
Some day i will form a theory about slavs, and mathematically prove it, both quantitatively and logically.
I will rape modern history as we know it... BY FORCE
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Post by ulf on Sept 5, 2012 8:32:22 GMT -5
There is already good deal of it proven by Anatoly Fomenko, called New Chronology. I don't trust Deretic at all. He based his whole theory on assumptions
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 5, 2012 9:05:52 GMT -5
^^^ you have no idea of how hard is to speak about slavs in a non-slavic country. I guess Slavic heritage in ex-slavic countries was brutally hidden/muted/destroyed.
So, ppl like Deretic *HAVE* to engage other logical methods, (like proof by contradiction) - (hence the assumption).
but pls, do you have any good links to Anatoly Fomenko?
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you yourself, had a hesitation to accept the slavic presence in south greece (More-as), but the hints there are just ..... countless..... countless... and of course it is forbidden to talk about them, just like it happens in Kosovo, with albs albanizing all the Serbian heritage...
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Post by ulf on Sept 5, 2012 9:13:39 GMT -5
^^^ you have no idea of how hard is to speak about slavs in a non-slavic country. I guess Slavic heritage in ex-slavic countries was brutally hidden/muted/destroyed. So, ppl like Deretic *HAVE* to engage other logical methods, (like proof by contradiction) - (hence the assumption). but pls, do you have any good links to Anatoly Fomenko? PS you yourself, had a hesitation to accept the slavic presence in south greece (More-as), but the hints there are just ..... countless..... countless... and of course it is forbidden to talk about them, just like it happens in Kosovo, with albs albanizing all the Serbian heritage... I got his book in Serbia, so I guess it wont be of much use to you. But here(not a whole book, but better than nothing): hbar.phys.msu.ru/gorm/fomenko/fomenko2.pdf And another link: rapidlibrary.com/files/anatoly-fomenko-new-chronology-history-pdf_ulztvrbyzzifmon.htmlI was aware of Slavic presence in North Greece
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Post by bowandarrow on Sept 5, 2012 9:42:30 GMT -5
I can't find any info on him in English and I would like to get a proper translation for the guy without using LAME-0 Google translate.
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Post by ulf on Sept 5, 2012 10:11:56 GMT -5
There is already good deal of it proven by Anatoly Fomenko, called New Chronology. The Russian Deretic; another lunatic. Hm, not really. Deretic based it all on assumptions and this guy confirmed his theory with celestial mechanics. That's if you know whats celestial mechanics.
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Post by ulf on Sept 5, 2012 10:37:12 GMT -5
Hm, not really. Deretic based it all on assumptions and this guy confirmed his theory with celestial mechanics. That's if you know whats celestial mechanics. I doubt Astronomy is reliable enough to date the occurrence of events in the past. How is that possible? Do the stars record the history of human civilisation? Theoretically if we knew position of all matter in space we could knew the future and so the past, but its impossible to know position of every part of matter. However its recorded in scripts, when solar and lunar eclipse happened(and similar events), so "reversing" back position of the Moon can be easily concluded in which year certain events occurred, and Fomenko found some flaws in modern history
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 6, 2012 2:25:33 GMT -5
all historical matters will be solved after we find some way to transfer vision and mass faster than light. In that way we can reach a point in universe where the "historical" images of the world just arrive, and just capture them.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 6, 2012 2:28:08 GMT -5
^^^ you have no idea of how hard is to speak about slavs in a non-slavic country. I guess Slavic heritage in ex-slavic countries was brutally hidden/muted/destroyed. So, ppl like Deretic *HAVE* to engage other logical methods, (like proof by contradiction) - (hence the assumption). but pls, do you have any good links to Anatoly Fomenko? PS you yourself, had a hesitation to accept the slavic presence in south greece (More-as), but the hints there are just ..... countless..... countless... and of course it is forbidden to talk about them, just like it happens in Kosovo, with albs albanizing all the Serbian heritage... I got his book in Serbia, so I guess it wont be of much use to you. But here(not a whole book, but better than nothing): hbar.phys.msu.ru/gorm/fomenko/fomenko2.pdf And another link: rapidlibrary.com/files/anatoly-fomenko-new-chronology-history-pdf_ulztvrbyzzifmon.htmlI was aware of Slavic presence in North Greece thanks, looks interesting, however it does not contain the magic terms "SLAVS", "SERBS". and that is all that matters to me, who were inhabiting the land where from i am from. who am i. this is my question, and the truth is in Serbian/Slavic history.
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Post by novosadista on May 2, 2013 3:52:09 GMT -5
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Post by Balkaneros on May 3, 2013 16:31:51 GMT -5
What is the verdict, how come we haven't heard of him ?
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