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Post by rex362 on Oct 18, 2012 18:56:20 GMT -5
Besides what news-opinions, what exactly is so bad about GD, I'm seriously asking. and to whoever answers... please refrain from using media trigger words, if your point is valid you shouldn't need to. extremists ...... but for consumption of the masses but they do act like bouncers at a nightclub so to impress the woman ,their end result is to take back Istanboli besides that the majority of these 18 seats in parliament have fathers that were not born in Greece ...they have taken some seats in the spaceship, tomorrow they will take the whole command of spaceship and nosedive to destruction
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Post by Kanaris on Oct 18, 2012 19:17:41 GMT -5
The European National Guard will be in the Athens streets before these douches take power.Most probably like 200 years ago the Greeks of the diaspora will take command.
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Post by uz on Oct 18, 2012 20:26:51 GMT -5
Besides what news-opinions, what exactly is so bad about GD, I'm seriously asking. and to whoever answers... please refrain from using media trigger words, if your point is valid you shouldn't need to. extremists ...... but for consumption of the masses but they do act like bouncers at a nightclub so to impress the woman ,their end result is to take back Istanboli besides that the majority of these 18 seats in parliament have fathers that were not born in Greece ...they have taken some seats in the spaceship, tomorrow they will take the whole command of spaceship and nosedive to destruction Extremists in what way tho, anything is extreme nowadays in this liberal rainbow waving world. ok, there's a thread here with videos showing Golden Dawn supporters tearing down paki shops, asian merchants carts etc.... Babylon even pointed out that in the video they do not show the supporters asking these merchants for their permit... I looked into it and it's true. Those merchants did not have permits and police don't do anything about it, while indirectly affecting the honest Greek merchant. There's serious propaganda aimed against this Party for no real reason, which is what got me to question in the first place. To be honest... where's the line, that when we reach it we say "Enought!"... the Greeks for a long time have been tolerant, it seems to me (being ignorant on greek politics) that this party is actually the only ones standing up to say "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH". I totally agree with the slogan; Greece for Greeks first. WIthout Greeks there is no Greece, thus no home for these immigrants, so it goes both ways. I can only imagine how many immigrants the Athens jail harbors. That;s bullshit, they should all be deported why is Greek money going to the survival of these degenerates?
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Post by rex362 on Oct 18, 2012 21:30:48 GMT -5
I know nothing ...I forgot ..amnesia
(all I can remember is these guys are darker than the ones they are trying to kick out)
just ask Canaris he can tell you in 5-7 words who what why
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Post by uz on Oct 18, 2012 22:43:01 GMT -5
someone watch this video and share your thoughts. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TztAg1uwko&feature=related [/youtube] here's mine. 1 - @ 10 secs the anchor calls out "extremist", right after he says " some are calling them neo-nazis". This is a very unprofessional way to open up a story. 2- @25secs that clip has been over played all over the world and no one knows the context in what he was saying that lead to that sentence. 3- @33secs they deny the holocaust, ok I can see how that pisses people off. 4- @ 1:03 that old man interview was BS. "they" beat em up... and next day they leave... what are his credentials, was he a witness in a trial? If not, the journalist couldn't find one? He said "they"...... is GD the "they"....... or what... maybe albs 5-@ 1:12 "a symbol many say look like the Nazi swastika"... wtf does that mean... "many say it looks like"? it's clearly different and the swastika is not Nazi in origin. Garbage language for morons to eat up. 6-@ 1:37 ... see the zinger line? "right-wing-memorabilia"... wtf is that? no wonder people s**t their pants when they hear about this party look at the garbage the news spreads. 7-@1:42.... what supremacist symbol? it's the GD logo they're showing... another trigger-happy reporter taking down one idiot after another. It opens eyes as to why so much propaganda. Every story done on them is to entrap them. There's no fair news coverage on this party at all. I even remember hearing in the news reporters saying the leader gave a "hitler" speech for his victory. I listened to the speech/read the translation and there was nothing Hitler about it, or Nazi or criminal for that matter.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 19, 2012 3:34:20 GMT -5
UZ, problem with GD is not that they have anything remotely close to anything german or nazi. Those guys smell middle east from miles away...
The problem with GD, is this type of "neo-greek" brave-wannabe bully, which mentality-wise SO DAMN CLOSE TO the albanians..... and they have been dominating the scene since 1821 onwards ... This is this specific type that the west endorses ... big words.... small actions, and even small organization and spirit... kill the spirit, and you are USA's best boy!!
It is this proximity with albanism that i detest with GD.
If they dropped this ancient-wanna be fanfare, and were a true patriotic PRO-BALKAN , PRO-SLAV party, which CLEVER intelligencija and with educated leadership i would vote them with great pleasure.
BUT!!!!!
what the funk am i saying!!! if ever such a patriotic party existed, USA would evaporate them in a second... no to be seen again....
that's my POV.
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Post by rex362 on Oct 19, 2012 14:02:56 GMT -5
Poll Shows Golden Dawn Rising, PASOK Vanishing The three parties in Greece’s uneasy coalition government are paying a high price for their unremitting support of more austerity measures, with polls showing the ruling New Democracy Conservatives have fallen behind the major opposition Coalition of the Radical Left (SYRIZA) and that the neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party is surging fast while the once-dominant PASOK Leftists have fallen to last place among the six parties in Parliament. read more greece.greekreporter.com/2012/10/19/golden-dawn-rising-pasok-vanishingpoll/
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Post by rex362 on Oct 19, 2012 14:05:33 GMT -5
UZ they are loudmouth Jerry Springer, reality tv show mentality and walk around like unemployed club house bouncers
sad part is the people in despair/uncertainty follow and there are many sheep for that the way economy and life is changing in greece
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Post by uz on Oct 19, 2012 18:03:07 GMT -5
UZ they are loudmouth Jerry Springer, reality tv show mentality and walk around like unemployed club house bouncers sad part is the people in despair/uncertainty follow and there are many sheep for that the way economy and life is changing in greece I get that this^ is the point of view most have accepted but ... -What's so loud mouth about them? The leader rants the same way any pissed-off politician would, even in America. - I don't understand this tv-show mentality you're talking about. Maybe this perspective is coming from the media and not actually GD. - How do they walk around like bouncers? That incident with the merchants/immigrants, is debateable but not totally unjustifiable. - GD is a no-BS party from what I gather. I think their support has increased simply b/c of that. They're straight up. If every party was that straight up they'd all be considered "extremists". Greeks have been duped and the ones' that see it seem to be supporting this party. All the above being said, I am not saying I am their supporter. I am only analysing. I am not a Greek therefore my view is irrelevent. PS; That above news-vid I posted should show everyone what I'm talking about, and it shouldn't be a surprise as to why this "theme" needs to be analyzed carefully.
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Post by uz on Oct 19, 2012 18:13:34 GMT -5
UZ, problem with GD is not that they have anything remotely close to anything german or nazi. Those guys smell middle east from miles away... Are you talking about the members' nationalities? Ok, so they're not traditional in their way of campaigning. I am with you on that. but... you also said... From what I read their words do match their actions. Sometimes more action than words. - this is actually what people have problems with. Even if they do have Albanian members I don't think that really matters. Policy over character. You're right, which is why there's moves to actually ban them. The West fully endorses the banning even tho it goes against Greeces' Law, International Law and hits Human Rights issues.
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Post by rex362 on Oct 19, 2012 18:18:10 GMT -5
kkk
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Post by uz on Oct 19, 2012 18:33:30 GMT -5
uh what?
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Post by rex362 on Oct 19, 2012 20:06:33 GMT -5
a softer version of the ku klux Klan
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Post by uz on Oct 19, 2012 20:12:29 GMT -5
goddam it's so hard to have a serious discussion in these boards
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2012 22:07:41 GMT -5
goddam it's so hard to have a serious discussion in these boards Exactly, the only thing happening on these forums is arguing and name calling.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 20, 2012 0:13:21 GMT -5
UZ, problem with GD is not that they have anything remotely close to anything german or nazi. Those guys smell middle east from miles away... Are you talking about the members' nationalities? Ok, so they're not traditional in their way of campaigning. I am with you on that. but... you also said... From what I read their words do match their actions. Sometimes more action than words. - this is actually what people have problems with. Even if they do have Albanian members I don't think that really matters. Policy over character. You're right, which is why there's moves to actually ban them. The West fully endorses the banning even tho it goes against Greeces' Law, International Law and hits Human Rights issues. I do not think that opening offices in NY is anywhere close to banning. Imagine Xrysi Augi (GD is their gay anglophone version.... wait a little ..... does e.g. RS (radikalna stranka) has an english acronym? lets say RP? ? no!!! but XA has!!!) well imagine them as the equivalent of the muslim opposition in Syria or in Lybyia.... Greece after 1821 was a 100% oerthodox nation... do you think this is pure coincidence!! whenever they want they create multiethnic societies and then bomb... whenever they want they create 99.99% "pure" fundamentalists .... and they .... orchestrate and manage.... i definitely think XA (GD) is the most NWO party in greece : arvanites-vlahs, NON-ancient-greeks, with HATE for rest of the balkans... sorry but if i was USA/UK, i would create a party such as XA in as many countries as i could.
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Post by uz on Oct 20, 2012 0:21:02 GMT -5
What are GD's Balkan policies? It's hard to find anything reliable.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 20, 2012 2:42:39 GMT -5
^^ war with the inferior slavs... what else in the middle east it is war against christians or non-muslim-fanatics.. in the balkans it is war against slavs (or inter-slav unity)... if you see the pattern, the west has ignited either wars against slavs, or inter-slavic civil wars : in any case the aim is the same : Harm the slavs... But what i do not like about XA, is their moto... ancient greece??? this like albs setting up nationalistic parties and basing their theory on the illyrians... this sucks... this holds Greece 1000 years back... basically Greece has to give all leadership to Crete/Cyprus... the rest simply are not worth a chit... maybe we wont live enough to see this... but i have been crying all those years in order to preserve HELLENIC spirit... It can only be saved if based on Crete/Cyprus... The arbanovlahs simply do not have it.. The brits chose arbanovlahs (like XA) to be the backbone of Greece in order to be able to destroy it more easily... The west is MUCH MORE clever than we might thing. If greece remains not hellenized (no Crete/Cyprus) and athens is gone... then the arbo-vlahs can be slavicized in less than 50 years... i can guarantee this.... nothing will be left.... But a Greece BASED ON CRETE will live forever ... those are my views..... (and that is why i am the only greek, pro-greek member in those boards)... all the rest are zombies which took the opportunity to just choose the side that UK/USA commands them to do....
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 20, 2012 2:48:42 GMT -5
^Greeks don't want war with slavs. Are they all supposed to be slavic nut huggers like you? You are a hemmorhoid.
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Post by uz on Oct 20, 2012 15:08:01 GMT -5
^^ war with the inferior slavs... what else in the middle east it is war against christians or non-muslim-fanatics.. in the balkans it is war against slavs (or inter-slav unity)... if you see the pattern, the west has ignited either wars against slavs, or inter-slavic civil wars : in any case the aim is the same : Harm the slavs... But what i do not like about XA, is their moto... ancient greece??? this like albs setting up nationalistic parties and basing their theory on the illyrians... this sucks... this holds Greece 1000 years back... basically Greece has to give all leadership to Crete/Cyprus... the rest simply are not worth a chit... maybe we wont live enough to see this... but i have been crying all those years in order to preserve HELLENIC spirit... It can only be saved if based on Crete/Cyprus... The arbanovlahs simply do not have it.. The brits chose arbanovlahs (like XA) to be the backbone of Greece in order to be able to destroy it more easily... The west is MUCH MORE clever than we might thing. If greece remains not hellenized (no Crete/Cyprus) and athens is gone... then the arbo-vlahs can be slavicized in less than 50 years... i can guarantee this.... nothing will be left.... But a Greece BASED ON CRETE will live forever ... those are my views..... (and that is why i am the only greek, pro-greek member in those boards)... all the rest are zombies which took the opportunity to just choose the side that UK/USA commands them to do.... What do you mean when you say; "they want war with Slavs"? I understand to angle you're taking on this and that was my initial thought as well, but the fact of the matter is, what benefit does the GD party/movement bring to the "agenda"?
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