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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 23, 2012 3:32:46 GMT -5
^I've never been to Greece but I understand Mike's concerns about illegal immigrants. Do we want a bunch of middle easterners flocking to Tiranë? Fuck that but like you said they wanted to get in EU and this is some of the bullshit that comes with it.
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 23, 2012 3:47:11 GMT -5
I would be because i am an immigrant myself and i know what its like to have nothing and go in search of a better life and everyone deserves to hav opportunities, i am not a hypocrite.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 23, 2012 3:58:16 GMT -5
^I understand what you're saying but with us we don't try to take over neighborhoods. We assimilate, to an extent at least. These Arabs, Pakis don't. We blend in with society. Let a Greek migrate to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan and openly practice his faith. It ain't happening. All the foreign workers in Saudi Arabia and I'm almost certain there is not one church in the whole country.
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 23, 2012 4:38:57 GMT -5
and for how long has the west exploited and sapped the natural resources of these countries? how long have they lived off the profits from the subterranian wealth of these poor souls?
you can't be splitting hairs, where this and they're that, fuck that man no-one deserves to starve.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 23, 2012 4:45:05 GMT -5
^+1 end of debate. Naten atdhetar, u bo afer 5 ne mengjes ktu.
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 23, 2012 4:54:31 GMT -5
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Post by Kanaris on Oct 23, 2012 6:16:33 GMT -5
In a perfect la la world I would agree with you,but right now Greece is in the dumpster all and all will be put under the microscope...
As for the matter of Greece getting into the EU that is a whole different subject that I have my doubts on.A dirt poor country (by 1980 standards) was let in mainly because of it's geographical location and some poor eu souls that were being historically sentimental...What happens when you take a beggar and put him into a mansion? He'll start hoarding food and steal the silverware.LOL! I feel bad for all the illegals but seriously they have to move on... especially the ones with kids... Greece is no place to be right now for them.
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Post by rex362 on Oct 23, 2012 10:16:24 GMT -5
greeks should publicly hang the men in the room that jacked up numbers to achieve membership and then erase the board and start all over ..
The country was broke broke before the Olympics
bcs Maria is right with her comments here
"Maria Fekter, Minister of Finance for the People’s Party in Austria (OVP), said that Greeks did not properly use the billions of euros they are borrowing from international lenders and raised again the notion they are lazy.
She said Greeks who are now protesting austerity measures “were lying in a hammock, the fell, and now they must get up.”
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Post by rex362 on Oct 23, 2012 10:47:27 GMT -5
I don't expect Albanians to understand the problem or even side with Greeks on this matter... This is where Babylon nailed it. The albs fear a strong-proud Greece. They fear a Greece that exists for Greeks-first. they have the same sentiments towards Serbia. he didn't nail that part per say .....you just like that part what control do we village Albanians have on economy of greece or serbia ?
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Post by uz on Oct 23, 2012 11:00:53 GMT -5
adt you retarded mongrel, no one is anti immigrant, illegals are illegals and Greek authority have the responsibility to act. It's that simple you over excited cunt. GD wants to put Greeks first, in other words solidify the foundation of the country - this is why they're seen as radical. You don't even know what you're talking about you're criticizing up the ass and make the fumble error illegal vs. non illegal.
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Post by rex362 on Oct 23, 2012 11:16:14 GMT -5
GD is working off the peoples fears and feeding off the bad economy and immigrants
simple as that ...GD gains more seats=GREECE TOTAL CHAOS
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 23, 2012 11:17:46 GMT -5
and I must say babylon presents a f**king strong case. Uz bro, have you come up with any answer to my questions?? if you believe that babylon has a strong case, then i admit that i was expecting more from you : The Serb whose mind is stronger than the meanest Daemon. I explain : Think of XA like Tudzman, Izetbekovic, Karadzic WEREN'T THEY *NATIONALISTS*? WEREN'T THEY (all in the beginning, turning against karadzic only after the game ended) ALL FULLY CREATED/SUPPORTED BY THE WEST? What other proof do you need that NWO SUPPORTS NAZI parties whenever they fit their cause And another error both you and Babylon are doing (which is a sign of naiveness). THE NWO CREATES (at least) TWO PROPAGANDAS : one for international consumption and one for local consumption. They can control all the relevant propagandas according to their plan, and they usually give no damn about trivialities as integrity, consistency, single-standards, etc.... Personally i have a hard time, figuring out how babylon has a strong case.... Maybe their is a 3rd factor... maybe they are using XA for a third cause, that has nothing to do with leftists-nazis-germans-bla-bla... basically only their controllers may know..... one thing is for real : those guys cannot perform basic human mental operations ... they are as much danger are all the asian freaks that NWO brought to Greece..... PS it is funny that the only people that are heard on this are those with the minimal (zero) experience ..... As far as the serbia-greece friendship fanfare, it is the biggest hoax.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 23, 2012 11:20:35 GMT -5
Yes it was this party sending help to Serbia and it was some of these guys waving the flag in Serbenica... A BIG NO...... you have no clue as always..... read the book of the greek man who served there and judge by yourself .... there losers, rightists, leftists from all over.... no central party or organization ever organized the volunteers... few of them fought in actual fights.... all in all it was totally 100 men, at all times, ever "served" in BiH., under the command of RS army.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 23, 2012 11:27:36 GMT -5
Pyrros proof : WHAT ABOUT THE NAZI PARTIES THAT HAVE KILLED ALL MINORITY RIGHTS IN THE BALTICS STATES? ? (locals who make up a 60-70% against the slavs who make up 30+%) ? HUH? WHERE IS THE CONDEMNATION OF THE "INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY AGAINST THEM"? Guys, i am expecting ONE SINGLE NEGATIVE ANGLOPHONE article against the nationalist parties in the baltic states, before i go on with this...... 2nd.... if the west (Merkel) said : ban XA or there are no more 100B to pay pensions, XA would be disbanded in less than a week. nuff said.
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Post by Kanaris on Oct 23, 2012 11:51:44 GMT -5
greeks should publicly hang the men in the room that jacked up numbers to achieve membership and then erase the board and start all over .. The country was broke broke before the Olympics bcs Maria is right with her comments here "Maria Fekter, Minister of Finance for the People’s Party in Austria (OVP), said that Greeks did not properly use the billions of euros they are borrowing from international lenders and raised again the notion they are lazy. She said Greeks who are now protesting austerity measures “were lying in a hammock, the fell, and now they must get up.” You write things as if no one else knows the facts... Frankly I don't give a chit what Maria Fekter says and neither does anyone else.... as for Greece fudging up the numbers ... that was done with France's and Britains blessings... get it through you haid... Greece was let it no matter what and now they will keep her no matter what...
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 23, 2012 14:35:35 GMT -5
In a perfect la la world I would agree with you,but right now Greece is in the dumpster all and all will be put under the microscope... As for the matter of Greece getting into the EU that is a whole different subject that I have my doubts on.A dirt poor country (by 1980 standards) was let in mainly because of it's geographical location and some poor eu souls that were being historically sentimental...What happens when you take a beggar and put him into a mansion? He'll start hoarding food and steal the silverware.LOL! I feel bad for all the illegals but seriously they have to move on... especially the ones with kids... Greece is no place to be right now for them. immigration is shaping to be a thorn in the side of EU and is going to be one of the determinant factors in election campaigns, its a massive issue for the likes of england, italy, germany, sweden etc., in greece they are viewed as a nuisance and being made a scapegoat for problems they did not cause, i know alb families that want to get out but can't, their kids are so integrated into the lifestyle, my friends got married and had kids in greece without ever considering an exit strategy, now they're stuck in a country with very little, if not insignificant, income and don't know wha to do with their kids, most of them have poor albanian.
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 23, 2012 14:40:33 GMT -5
adt you retarded mongrel, no one is anti immigrant, illegals are illegals and Greek authority have the responsibility to act. It's that simple you over excited c**t. GD wants to put Greeks first, in other words solidify the foundation of the country - this is why they're seen as radical. You don't even know what you're talking about you're criticizing up the ass and make the fumble error illegal vs. non illegal. you worthless lump of dog faeces, what are you talking about you utter failure? i have more sense in my left nut than you do in your entire body, stop contaminating every thread with your colossal stupidity and overt lack of knowledge.
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Post by Babylon Enigma on Oct 23, 2012 22:21:59 GMT -5
Immigration myth
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Post by Babylon Enigma on Oct 23, 2012 22:24:20 GMT -5
Looks like the spirit of Golden Dawn is rising in other lands. French Mosque Stormed By Far Right Protesters In Poitiers FrancePARIS — Dozens of far right extremists stormed atop an unfinished mosque in western France on Saturday to show their hostility toward it and denounce immigration that has brought millions of Muslims into the country, a regional official said. About 70 protesters traveled from around France for Saturday morning's demonstration in the city of Poitiers, which has symbolic meaning as the place where a French medieval ruler once drove away Arab invaders, regional prefect Yves Dassonville said by phone. After police arrived, the protesters dispersed without resistance – and three were detained to face accusations of "incitement of racial hatred" and damage to property, he said. French TV broadcast images of dozens of rowdy, waving and chanting protesters on the mosque roof next to its minaret. They unfurled a banner that read "Generation Identitaire" and demanded a referendum on immigration and mosques. The banner also bore the number 732, which Dassonville said was a reference to the year when the army of medieval French leader Charles Martel stopped an Arab invasion in Poitiers. Muslim leaders said the protesters had disrupted a prayer inside, and expressed incomprehension over the stunt. "We are thunderstruck ... these are people who are stuck in the year 732, and who don't see that the world has changed," Poitiers imam El Haj Boubaker told France's BFM-TV. "People can live differently than in a mindset of war and conflict." France is home to Western Europe's largest population of Muslims, estimated to be at least 5 million even though the government does not provide official figures. Many have family roots in former French colonies in northern Africa. French governments for years have struggled to integrate Muslims, who often pray in cellars, apartments and, at times, in the street because of a shortage of mosques in the country. Dassonville said the completion of the Poitiers mosque has lagged for years because of ongoing troubles the Muslim community has had in drumming up needed financing. He said he was assembling an interfaith meeting of Jewish, Catholic and Muslim leaders in the city Saturday to show unity in the face of the far right demonstration. Interior Minister Manuel Valls denounced a "hateful and inadmissible provocation" by the extremists. www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/20/farright-protesters-storm_n_1992268.html
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 25, 2012 1:46:45 GMT -5
baby-lon, we need no freaking youtube videos that had nothing to do with XA. So in your 1st sentence you say "the spirit of XA spreads in france"....
This includes two errors : 1st, XA in France would be in the shoes of the immigrants (middle eastern funtamentalists) rather than the French nationalists. 2nd. There is no spirit in XA. I have challenged you to show me one person in XA that can speak.
Also this "egerthito" (εγέρθητω, a word wrong accented and in wrong declension, wrong number, a word which in literal terms does not exist : it sounds ancient-ish, but it only proves that those guys have nothing to do with Greece) fiasco was so funny all the country laughed for months.....
XA in its present form is "albano-crasy", "middle-east-ocrasy" and has nothing to do with how Greece should be.
here it is have fun :
bottom - line.... you can choose to be as pro-pesudo-NAZI as you want, you can be used by NWO as much as you wish, but pls... keep your ridiculous opinions out of Greece (and Serbia).
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