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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 11, 2012 17:36:13 GMT -5
"Speaking of history, we have also touched upon the origins of the Albanian people, and discussed two viable theories, the Romanian link and the Caucasus Albania link. Dr. Toli recognizes both, and says that there are some 800 words that are similar between Albanian and Romanian, but also due to the population mixing a lot of Slavic, Greek and Latin. [b]Also, he recognizes that there must be an Asian or Mongolian layer to the Albanians, as they have some very prominent physical similarities, which may go back to the barbarian hordes. “In Europe there is Iberia, Albania, Bulgaria, in this order. In the Caucasus there has been Iberia, Albania, Bulgaria, in this order. That’s too much to be a coincidence”,[/b] says Dr. Toli. As far as the Slavic prominence in the region he says: “The toponyms of the South are very heavily Slavic. Like, Berat (Beograd), Bistrica, Bushtrica, Babica, Jezerca, Bezisht, Bilisht, Zicisht, Kucova, Polican (Aromanian I believe) and many others. There are plenty of Greek toponyms, and little Albanian. Albanians ought to not have much claim to much of Albania proper. More precisely, to anything South of Shkumbin river, that accounts for more than 60% of Albania proper.”
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 11, 2012 17:37:50 GMT -5
If you Shqiptar-Albs want to read the whole article from which l've just given you a clippet, PLEASE LET ME KNOW ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2012 17:42:48 GMT -5
I dont agree with the Caucasus theory, but the fact that Albanian toponyms are seriously lacking in the south makes me agree with him, when he says that their native grounds are north of the Shkumbin.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 11, 2012 17:57:52 GMT -5
^ The academic knows of his language and had realised that:
Albanian has IE kënd angle (Serbian ugao, from u/goniti /drive in/) and ndjek (chase; as I already told Albanian dretoj and vozis /drive/ are the borrowings from Serbian terati, voziti /drive/) are derivatives of the reduplicated Gon basis, just as it is in other IE languages, although their 'nd' consonant cluster (also, in Tosk dialect, mb, ng, ngj) in 'ndjek' does not sound Indo-European at all.
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 11, 2012 18:03:57 GMT -5
sorcelow, how do you mean seriously lacking, its overwhelmingly albanian, i don't understand why keep distorting reality on purpose like you're trying to hint at smth grandiose, its a mix of influences that's for sure but to go as far saying seriously lacking? here's the full link to that article, www.vaseljenska.com/english/serbian-realist-of-the-albanian-origin/this whole piece seems fishy to me. here's an exerpt, Dr. Toli revealed:“I am of Christian Orthodox birth, and have been baptized Christian Orthodox in the Russian church of Bologna, Italy, in May 1999. I carefully chose the date to coincide with me expressing sympathy for the Serbs against Albanians at the time of the bombing.”enuff said, this dude if he is real got some muhafukin issues. P.S. he's an academic in some bullshit discipline that has nothing to do with history or anthropology, so in other words he's just another cunt speaking his mind, nothing substantial, i reckon he was hitting that serb pusdy, telling her what she wants to hear.......homie gots to get some.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 11, 2012 18:06:20 GMT -5
^ Your quick to find it, ah, your so so so so screwed ;D
ITS OVAH ADT
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Post by Shqipni13 on Oct 11, 2012 18:15:28 GMT -5
^No Atdhetar just dismissed Toli as being a tart like you. Good job bashkAtdhetar.
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 11, 2012 18:32:13 GMT -5
^ Your quick to find it, ah, your so so so so screwed ;D ITS OVAH ADT how exactly am i screwed you cretin? its you who have an agenda and keeps twisting words and facts, you are the desperate one...i am just pointing that out
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 11, 2012 18:37:43 GMT -5
^No Atdhetar just dismissed Toli as being a tart like you. Good job bashkAtdhetar. well novi is clutching at straws, notice the way he purposely used the words academic as if to place some credibility to his self-serving claims, its just another blog really, we can not authenticate it, its hearsay.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 11, 2012 19:25:36 GMT -5
Can you guys DEBUNK Dr.Toli? That is the million dollar question.
PS Its OVAH
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 11, 2012 19:27:18 GMT -5
I will post Dr.Toli's info in its entirity in another thread ;D
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Post by rex362 on Oct 11, 2012 20:20:53 GMT -5
This was the surprise academic you had Novi ......wow ...all I can say is
RROFT KOSOVA
and times duzet
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 11, 2012 21:13:42 GMT -5
^ Are there Albanian Orthodox Churches in Italia?
ITS OVAH
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2012 21:27:17 GMT -5
OK, novi, you can ask Doctor Professor Toli to give you Kosova back. Maybe he can give it back if you ask dyzet times.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 11, 2012 21:53:40 GMT -5
^ Only god knows this, not you or me.
PS They way its heading it looks as thou you'll lose it ALL.
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Post by pokeristi on Oct 11, 2012 21:58:21 GMT -5
Yeah looks like it, ive always said the belgrade pashaluk days are coming closer too
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 11, 2012 22:04:17 GMT -5
^ Its OVAH!
PS Keep in mind RUSSIAN SOUTH STREAM (your dreams are shattered). Russians have the MONEY while your minders are losing it.
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Post by uz on Oct 11, 2012 23:10:41 GMT -5
Who is this guy?
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Post by bowandarrow on Oct 12, 2012 11:38:30 GMT -5
"Speaking of history, we have also touched upon the origins of the Albanian people, and discussed two viable theories, the Romanian link and the Caucasus Albania link. Dr. Toli recognizes both, and says that there are some 800 words that are similar between Albanian and Romanian, but also due to the population mixing a lot of Slavic, Greek and Latin. [b ]Also, he recognizes that there must be an Asian or Mongolian layer to the Albanians, as they have some very prominent physical similarities, which may go back to the barbarian hordes. “In Europe there is Iberia, Albania, Bulgaria, in this order. In the Caucasus there has been Iberia, Albania, Bulgaria, in this order. That’s too much to be a coincidence”, [/b] says Dr. Toli. As far as the Slavic prominence in the region he says: “The toponyms of the South are very heavily Slavic. Like, Berat (Beograd), Bistrica, Bushtrica, Babica, Jezerca, Bezisht, Bilisht, Zicisht, Kucova, Polican (Aromanian I believe) and many others. There are plenty of Greek toponyms, and little Albanian. Albanians ought to not have much claim to much of Albania proper. More precisely, to anything South of Shkumbin river, that accounts for more than 60% of Albania proper.”[/quote] The Caucasus Albanian part would be the part of the Azerbaijani and Armenian high land but since when did Romania come into it?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 12, 2012 21:02:14 GMT -5
bowandarrow, you must understand that Balkan Vlach is related to Standard Romanian. Shqiptar-Albs assimilated and borrowed heavily from the Vlachs of modern Albania, just as they have done to the Wendish Serboi and borrowed their words.
The modern Shqiptarian language is a mismash of, going in this order:
Vlach/Aromanian ===> Greek====> Serbo-Vardarian/Slavic ====> Original Shqiptarian lang.
Most borrowings occurred through Latin (Vlach) and Greek, with also a good portion from Slavic, mixed up with their original Shqiptarian language which was brought to Europe from the East.
PS They have borrowed so heavily from others which has in essence F'ed their counting system LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO
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