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Post by greenemperor on Dec 5, 2012 16:22:56 GMT -5
The Iranian element in Romanian's history is something that's been largely ignored. Romanians have Iranian blood from the Scythians and Sarmatians that were mixed with the Dacians. Also, the Dacians, being Thracians, had many elements in their culture that were similar to old Persian.
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Post by amateurs on Dec 5, 2012 16:52:51 GMT -5
These Iranian people spread throughout Europe, so it's not just Romania. lolz
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Post by hellboy87 on Dec 6, 2012 0:43:04 GMT -5
Indo-Iranians!
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Post by bowandarrow on Dec 6, 2012 4:52:46 GMT -5
The Iranian element in Romanian's history is something that's been largely ignored. Romanians have Iranian blood from the Scythians and Sarmatians that were mixed with the Dacians. Also, the Dacians, being Thracians, had many elements in their culture that were similar to old Persian. So you think Romanians are Irano Afghan mixed?
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Post by amateurs on Dec 6, 2012 5:32:16 GMT -5
The Iranian element in Romanian's history is something that's been largely ignored. Romanians have Iranian blood from the Scythians and Sarmatians that were mixed with the Dacians. Also, the Dacians, being Thracians, had many elements in their culture that were similar to old Persian. So you think Romanians are Irano Afghan mixed? Where in that text does it mention the Afghans? It doesn't. You just wanted to be retarded. The Scythians were Persian.
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Post by bowandarrow on Dec 6, 2012 10:59:17 GMT -5
So you think Romanians are Irano Afghan mixed? Where in that text does it mention the Afghans? It doesn't. You just wanted to be retarded. The Scythians were Persian. No they are not. And Persians/Kurds/Afgans are Iranic. You're comparing Romanians to Asian people.
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Post by greenemperor on Dec 8, 2012 12:42:18 GMT -5
Well, if everybody else is claiming Iranian ancestry - Bulgarians, Serbs, Croats - Romanians can too.
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Post by littleboyfatman on Dec 8, 2012 16:44:08 GMT -5
why should they???
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Post by wbb on Dec 9, 2012 7:35:17 GMT -5
Scythians are proto-Turkic people and not iranians. Iranians are parthians. Dacians are also scythians. So finally romanians are accepting the fact that they are turkic, and not romans.
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Post by greenemperor on Dec 9, 2012 23:21:29 GMT -5
WBB, please show some facts or I'll get Admin after you.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Dec 16, 2012 6:19:13 GMT -5
Scythians are proto-Turkic people and not iranians. Iranians are parthians. Dacians are also scythians. So finally romanians are accepting the fact that they are turkic, and not romans. I dont agree that original Scythes were Turkic but it is written that peoples that displayed similiar culture to Scythians were also called Scythians too, imo its possible Turkics who encountered Scythians in the Steppe also became reffered to as Scythians. Turkics were an interesting folk in that they tended to go in all directions and interbreed with many peoples many times maintaining there own language and identity but their bloodlines seldomly remained pure in fact there is probably minority real Turkic blood in Turkey itself. Interestingly Cumans were physically described as being blondies not a feature generally asscociated with Turkics today.
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Post by amateurs on Dec 16, 2012 7:32:45 GMT -5
Scythians are proto-Turkic people and not iranians. Iranians are parthians. Dacians are also scythians. So finally romanians are accepting the fact that they are turkic, and not romans. I dont agree that original Scythes were Turkic but it is written that peoples that displayed similiar culture to Scythians were also called Scythians too, imo its possible Turkics who encountered Scythians in the Steppe also became reffered to as Scythians. Turkics were an interesting folk in that they tended to go in all directions and interbreed with many peoples many times maintaining there own language and identity but their bloodlines seldomly remained pure in fact there is probably minority real Turkic blood in Turkey itself. Interestingly Cumans were physically described as being blondies not a feature generally asscociated with Turkics today. So you agreed to give your alter ego, wbb, a break? That's refreshing, for us all.
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Post by greenemperor on Dec 16, 2012 12:44:10 GMT -5
The proto-Turks were still in Mongolia when the Iranian Scythians were roaming the steppes of central Asia 3000 years ago.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Dec 16, 2012 22:43:06 GMT -5
I dont agree that original Scythes were Turkic but it is written that peoples that displayed similiar culture to Scythians were also called Scythians too, imo its possible Turkics who encountered Scythians in the Steppe also became reffered to as Scythians. Turkics were an interesting folk in that they tended to go in all directions and interbreed with many peoples many times maintaining there own language and identity but their bloodlines seldomly remained pure in fact there is probably minority real Turkic blood in Turkey itself. Interestingly Cumans were physically described as being blondies not a feature generally asscociated with Turkics today. So you agreed to give your alter ego, wbb, a break? That's refreshing, for us all. Nope he is not my alter ego ... maybe he had/has an alter ego but was never me.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Dec 16, 2012 22:43:56 GMT -5
The proto-Turks were still in Mongolia when the Iranian Scythians were roaming the steppes of central Asia 3000 years ago. Turks are not from Mongolia.
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Post by hellboy87 on Dec 17, 2012 4:09:19 GMT -5
Scythians are proto-Turkic people and not iranians. Iranians are parthians. Dacians are also scythians. So finally romanians are accepting the fact that they are turkic, and not romans. Scythian are not Turkics.They are Indo-Europeans of the Indo-Iranian branch.
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Post by hellboy87 on Dec 17, 2012 4:10:00 GMT -5
Turks are not from Mongolia. I think he meant Turkics,not the Turks of Turkey.
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Post by greenemperor on Dec 17, 2012 11:58:40 GMT -5
The proto-Turks were still in Mongolia when the Iranian Scythians were roaming the steppes of central Asia 3000 years ago. Turks are not from Mongolia. The oldest Turkic inscriptions were found in Mongolia. They are called the Orkhon inscriptions that relate the legendary origin of the Turks.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Dec 17, 2012 16:33:16 GMT -5
Turks are not from Mongolia. The oldest Turkic inscriptions were found in Mongolia. They are called the Orkhon inscriptions that relate the legendary origin of the Turks. they were found there in 19th century. It is generally agreed that the first Turkic people lived in a region extending from Central Asia to Siberia with the majority of them living in China historically. Historically they were palpable after the 6th Century BC.[27] The earliest separate Turkic peoples appeared on the peripheries of the late Xiongnu confederation (contemporaneous with the Chinese Han Dynasty).[28] Turkic people may be related to the Xiongnu, Dingling and Tiele people. According to the Book of Wei, the Tiele people were the remaining of the Chidi (赤狄), the red Di people competing with the Jin in the Spring and Autumn Period.[29] Turkic tribes, such as Khazars and Pechenegs, probably lived as nomads for many years before establishing the Göktürk Empire or Mongolia in the 6th century. These were herdsmen and nobles who were searching for new pastures and wealth. The first mention of Turks was in a Chinese text that mentioned trade of Turk tribes with the Sogdians along the Silk Road.[
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Post by greenemperor on Dec 17, 2012 17:32:25 GMT -5
The oldest Turkic inscriptions were found in Mongolia. They are called the Orkhon inscriptions that relate the legendary origin of the Turks. they were found there in 19th century. It is generally agreed that the first Turkic people lived in a region extending from Central Asia to Siberia with the majority of them living in China historically. Historically they were palpable after the 6th Century BC.[27] The earliest separate Turkic peoples appeared on the peripheries of the late Xiongnu confederation (contemporaneous with the Chinese Han Dynasty).[28] Turkic people may be related to the Xiongnu, Dingling and Tiele people. According to the Book of Wei, the Tiele people were the remaining of the Chidi (赤狄), the red Di people competing with the Jin in the Spring and Autumn Period.[29] Turkic tribes, such as Khazars and Pechenegs, probably lived as nomads for many years before establishing the Göktürk Empire or Mongolia in the 6th century. These were herdsmen and nobles who were searching for new pastures and wealth. The first mention of Turks was in a Chinese text that mentioned trade of Turk tribes with the Sogdians along the Silk Road.[Yes, but the Turkic tribes only began to occupy the south Russian steppes after the invasion of the Huns. Before that it was populated by Iranian tribes- the Scythians being one of them. A lot of the Turkic tribes now in central Asia are just Turkified Iranians. In fact, the Proto-Indo-European language originated in the south Russian steppes and region north of the Black Sea.
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