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Post by rex362 on Jan 14, 2013 10:26:24 GMT -5
one reason ...they get accustomed to the name after time and they just leave it your saying the Vlacho Albanians didn't /couldn't think of a word ,any word but the slavic one .....ahahhahhahh bro ...the church said change it or don't change it .....who the fuk would ask the townspeople .....the church was law you know up northern greece all the names that still exist and the ones that were changed and just recently and usually when the name was changed so was most of its original population pushed out or killed ....sometimes they come back sometimes they dont .... so you must be proud of name changes ay bro ....? dont worry history continues they will keep changing You really have no idea what you're talking about, the people would've called it whatever they thought the proper way was to call it, isn't that why you call Kosovo with the A? Same idea. You're saying the Church conducted this campaign? Tell me which one.You need to take the time in consideration which you completely ignore, the era. When it comes to this sort of dealings, names of towns and so on and so forth, the people hold command. Speaking of era you also ignore the importance of religion back then which is a huge mistake you will not learn anything this way. in small towns the king and leader was the priest of the church....of that day education was not abundant then as it is now ....use soem common sense and don't sell me bs of your likings
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Post by rex362 on Jan 14, 2013 10:31:52 GMT -5
the more I read about serbian history the more fairytale it gets
these histories you have are continuous and recent epic poems and songs so to make people bring grain and grapes to the church so to keep them fed and drunk happy
and I dont believe the Slavic people of the Balkans ever had a Slavic king/leader/Commander ....and all chosen and hatched from Byzantine blue blood mixes of Albanian,Armenians, Assyrian,Bulgarians and so called greeks so that ythe Byzantines could constantly control
oh and the regional localized leaders were only chosen by who had the most pigs and goats he had in his pen ....
case closed !
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Post by rex362 on Jan 14, 2013 13:41:56 GMT -5
yep .....just been reading more serbian history of the times and the more I read the more I come to this conclusion .....
I think that all serbian history of the past is very suspicious and that serbian ethnos of that time remains unproven..... and that the only proven serbs in name have been the ruler clergy class , who possessed territories inhabited by ethnic group more than just simply serbs.
...and later that these elite religious theocratic's gained independence from mother Church/Bulgarian Church and created a separate state later .....but ethnic group without a prominent serbian population and these elite would constitute the core of the nation's history with epic poems .....
its not my end conclusion but this is what I have picked up on so far
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 14, 2013 14:02:16 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Jan 14, 2013 18:13:07 GMT -5
Alvo/Albo or professional ...whatever your name change of the day is
I am waiting for you to reply on post #122 here .....your reply means more to me than Pyrros's
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Post by Shqipni13 on Jan 14, 2013 18:24:54 GMT -5
An appendix is worth .......
No personal jabs, Thnx
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Post by Balkaneros on Jan 14, 2013 18:25:37 GMT -5
Alvo/Albo or professional ...whatever your name change of the day is I am waiting for you to reply on post #122 here .....your reply means more to me than Pyrros's I will quote a fellow herd member of yours. Perfectly said, and in perfect reference to. You guys look in the mirror and hate what you see, it makes you sick doesn't it, so you invert this rage and paint a picture [in your case a SERB] and begin to hate THAT equally as much as you hate yourself by applying the same negative attributes you see in yourselves, you staple it to your SERB picture. Really you're not tricking anybody except yourself. Another case point... you never once provided anything of significant value adressing documentation of any sort. You are incapable. You depend on forums to learn your history [ really this is all that needs to be said] and use the internet to spread more and more lies about history. Shame on you.
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Post by rex362 on Jan 14, 2013 18:32:33 GMT -5
oh ....your simply in the jabbing mod only I thought I was in the learning of serb history process here and expected more comment on what i wrote ....I was thinking I can learn for our correspondences here never mind ...but I didnt get you anything for Christmas so I give you this very very good read its about 15 minutes its a very good example of serbian myth making and glamorization of self either it wins or fails .....I found it very interesting myself and suggest every serbian should read this .....since this tpic is Kosova related so when you have time light up a cigarette and a cold beverage of your choice and read ....and please ....not just the first 2 paragraphs .....this I believe will give us 12 days of discussion here cmes.arizona.edu/sites/cmes.arizona.edu/files/Background%20-Battle%20of%20Kosovo%20poetry.pdf
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Post by Balkaneros on Jan 14, 2013 18:35:00 GMT -5
oh ....your simply in the jabbing mod only I thought I was in the learning of serb history process here and expected more comment on what i wrote never mind ...but I didnt get you anything for Christmas so I give you this very very good read its about 15 minutes its a very good example of serbian myth making and glamorization of self either it wins or fails .....I found it very interesting myself and suggest every serbian should read this .....since this tpic is Kosova related so when you have time light up a cigarette and a cold beverage of your choice and read ....and please ....not just the first 2 paragraphs .....this I believe will give us 12 days of discussion here cmes.arizona.edu/sites/cmes.arizona.edu/files/Background%20-Battle%20of%20Kosovo%20poetry.pdfSure, I'll read it but you're not the one to discuss this with. I see in this forum how you debate and argue. You're terrible.
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Post by rex362 on Jan 14, 2013 18:37:32 GMT -5
oh ....your simply in the jabbing mod only I thought I was in the learning of serb history process here and expected more comment on what i wrote never mind ...but I didnt get you anything for Christmas so I give you this very very good read its about 15 minutes its a very good example of serbian myth making and glamorization of self either it wins or fails .....I found it very interesting myself and suggest every serbian should read this .....since this tpic is Kosova related so when you have time light up a cigarette and a cold beverage of your choice and read ....and please ....not just the first 2 paragraphs .....this I believe will give us 12 days of discussion here cmes.arizona.edu/sites/cmes.arizona.edu/files/Background%20-Battle%20of%20Kosovo%20poetry.pdfSure, I'll read it but you're not the one to discuss this with. I see in this forum how you debate and argue. You're terrible. forget what you have seen ...uh how long you been snooping on me ? like we dont know who you are ...HA ! this is the new Rex .....call me grasshopper ... again / I am in the learning process
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Post by rex362 on Jan 15, 2013 14:58:16 GMT -5
The Slavs emerge as a strong population in the 10th century. But these Slavs are Bulgarians, not Serbs. It is they who in the 11th century named Belgrade the city that at present is Serbia's capital. The Slav toponyms that replaced the Illyrian and the Roman toponyms are also in many areas Bulgarian and not Serb.
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Post by rex362 on Jan 15, 2013 15:00:19 GMT -5
When Stefan Dušan was killed in 1355, the Serbian Empire included not merely Kosova; it encompassed practically all of present Albania, Greece, Bulgaria, and part of Hungary. Yet the Empire had no fixity and lasted merely nine years. It had been built up with the help of mercenaries and it disintegrated immediately after Dušan's death because of the heterogeneous elements of which it was composed: Vlachs, Greeks, Albanians, etc.
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Post by rex362 on Jan 15, 2013 16:39:47 GMT -5
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Post by Balkaneros on Jan 15, 2013 17:44:32 GMT -5
This one here especially is a clean slit explanation. Your heroes weren't always your heroes many got resurrected or even burried to serve a certain purpose. Here's what the West always thought of you until they started to use you, and still even so, they deny everything you try to claim which is why they remain silent when concerning [our] history. Seems to me, after reading so much on what Albanians have perceived, that you guys have adjusted your identity almost every half Century leaving future generations to be confused and from this comes frustration -> insecurity -> violence. You cannot deny that your own ancestors from the Ottoman era were either Muslim pro-Ottoman, or Christian against the Ottomans and freedom seekers [from the Ottomans]. There's no both and this is where you f**k up hard. Take this last paragraph in nicely and slowly and try to comprehend the real confusion that lies within the Albanian ethnos. You can also check out this book. No one asking you to believe anything but you'll definitely find what you need to move forward. Here's the online free version. www.scribd.com/doc/26682029/Myths-of-Albanian-National-Identity-Malcolm-Noel-2002I'm just waiting for your idiotic answer to this minus the actually reading of my post. lol
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Post by littleboyfatman on Jan 15, 2013 20:12:30 GMT -5
^ so whats your point?
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Post by Balkaneros on Jan 15, 2013 20:57:27 GMT -5
The Albanians are the acting definition of denial and naivety.
I am speaking of simple happenings and you all go off the charts rambling about everything like you got some boiled up anger you need to unleash.
Keep it simple stupids.
The era and time of what we`re speaking of dictates history not theoretical todays thinking. Are you this dumb ?
When the Ottomans entered the Balkans, the Albanians weren`t Muslim, how do you think the Christians felt towards the ones abondoning them ? Hoxhas propaganda does not apply here but you are probably too much of an imbecile to see that.
Albanians were eventually split between Christians and Muslims... Muslims getting the benefits of being subjects to the Holy Empire as they saw it, and the Christians seeing this Empire as tyrannical, something that needed to go so Albanians can be free people.
You`re a fake, you are only Albanian by name. Your mind is full of s**t and your heart is full of hate... the true Balkan, Albanian soul in most of you have died long ago only to be sold to this new idea of what you call an identity.
True Albanian patriots will understand what I am saying, as their ancestors once saw it. You all wave Kastriotis symbol ignoring the fact he would dice you all up first before he got to the Turks.
And how do you answer me...
You bring up the Serbian Church and spit out the same broken record rhetoric that is all over the internet.
Deep down you know I am right. Your identity is a fallacy, non-existent, you calling yourself an Albanian is an oxymoron. There is nothing European or cultivated about your mentality, you are simply savages.
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Post by rex362 on Jan 15, 2013 21:13:26 GMT -5
how simple you want it .....didnt I
I think that all serbian history of the past is very suspicious and that serbian ethnos of that time remains unproven..... and that the only proven serbs in name have been the ruler clergy class , who possessed territories inhabited by ethnic group more than just simply serbs.
...and later that these elite religious theocratic's gained independence from mother Church/Bulgarian Church and created a separate state later .....but ethnic group without a prominent serbian population and these elite would constitute the core of the nation's history with epic poems .....
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Post by Balkaneros on Jan 15, 2013 21:16:10 GMT -5
hahahahaha... terrible just terrible... at least don`t answer at all, just right now this last post of yours.... was quite desperate.
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Post by littleboyfatman on Jan 15, 2013 21:38:00 GMT -5
im stil missing your point... you say there were cristian and muslims albs... so good morning the whole world knows this and albs tooo none is denying it... so what did you enlighten.... ?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jan 16, 2013 7:26:50 GMT -5
how simple you want it .....didnt I I think that all serbian history of the past is very suspicious and that serbian ethnos of that time remains unproven..... and that the only proven serbs in name have been the ruler clergy class , who possessed territories inhabited by ethnic group more than just simply serbs. ...and later that these elite religious theocratic's gained independence from mother Church/Bulgarian Church and created a separate state later .....but ethnic group without a prominent serbian population and these elite would constitute the core of the nation's history with epic poems ..... Okay, so in what way is it unproven?
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