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Post by rex362 on Jan 11, 2013 17:33:30 GMT -5
Serb means slave, Serv, servant, slave, Servant. Their own name, indicating that they are not a natural ethnicity, but believers gathered around a particular faith.
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Post by Balkaneros on Jan 11, 2013 17:36:24 GMT -5
What's wrong with that? That's his opinion. You know: Everyone is allowed to have one. Except with shiptars they're not capable. So please, endulge me for a moment and elaborate what the Prof is stating. Enough with copying and pasting from other forums, stealing other peoples' work shame on you. Argue for yourself, and prove you really understand what is being said. well in a simple form i can put it ..... that serb/serbian was not an ethnicity then more or less a a community of people of same religion which also stand the same for the greeks of that period Not a good translation but ok, let's stick with what you're saying. You're an idiot. Serbs and Greeks have had differentiations between each other since the begin of their contacts. Serbs to this day hold some of our most sacred rituals that goes way back before Christianity, rituals and traditions all other Slavs have lost. You think having a Slava is strictly religion affiliated? You think Badnja Vece is all about Christmas? Is it a coincidence that our biggest dates in [relgion] coincide with dates of Great Slavic Gods, that date back to the Pagan times? You know nothing. Just stop.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Jan 11, 2013 17:38:33 GMT -5
Rock bands and photographers motherfucker!
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Post by Balkaneros on Jan 11, 2013 17:38:54 GMT -5
Serb means slave, Serv, servant, slave, Servant. Their own name, indicating that they are not a natural ethnicity, but believers gathered around a particular faith. Where did you get this etymology from, while wanking off to greater albania? (< *serb-) is the root of the Proto-Slavic word for "same" (as in "same people"), found in Russian and Ukrainian (ñåðáàòü), Belarussian (ñåðáàöü), Slovak (srbati), Bulgarian (ñúðáàì), Old Russian (ñåðåáàòè).[34] Scholars have also suggested an origin in the Indo-European root *ser- 'to watch over, protect', akin to Latin servare 'to keep, guard, protect, preserve, observe'
J.P. Mallory and D.Q. Adams, "Protect", The Encyclopedia of Indo-European Culture (London: Fitzroy and Dearborn, There's some history for you.
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Post by rex362 on Jan 11, 2013 17:41:33 GMT -5
to the Byzantines you were knows as servents
you didnt walk into the Balkans being called serbs
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Post by Balkaneros on Jan 11, 2013 17:43:24 GMT -5
to the Byzantines you were knows as servents you didnt walk into the Balkans being called serbs We were Serbs way before we came to the Balkans this is noted in many parts of the world.
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Post by rex362 on Jan 11, 2013 17:46:20 GMT -5
Miroslav Pantic: "... the term" Serb "or" Greek "is certainly a religious definition of the Orthodox Church
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Post by Balkaneros on Jan 11, 2013 17:47:49 GMT -5
Miroslav Pantic: "... the term" Serb "or" Greek "is certainly a religious definition of the Orthodox Church I already gave you the Indo-European definition of it's etymology. You're a fantastic chap... really I mean that.
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Post by rex362 on Jan 11, 2013 17:51:55 GMT -5
Italian/1696 La Libri Galleria di Minerva The book says that in Ulcinj 1696 was inhabited by Serbs, Turks, and a small number of Catholics. Catholic is a religious term, Turk is a religious term No ethnic serb has ever lived in Ulcinj so a serb is a symbol for the Orthodox faith . Another clear evidence of what the term means a Serb!
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Post by rex362 on Jan 11, 2013 17:59:03 GMT -5
so basically you guys are a mix of slavs,Bulgars ,vlachs Albanians
just like the greeks are mixed up the wazoooo
is that what Orthodoxy is? ...seriously no joke
now I understand why its so easy for my bro Pyrros to get a hard on for serbs ...it all makes sense now ....
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Post by Balkaneros on Jan 11, 2013 18:07:10 GMT -5
You're missing one important point. WE WERE SERBS BEFORE THERE WAS ORTHODOXY. Honestly, shiptars never read so don't pretend you do.
You're reasoning is totally flawed, if we're a product of the Bulgarians then we have even more right and claim into your lands. We already hold this claim without the Bulgarians, but thanks for the additional points.
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Post by rex362 on Jan 11, 2013 18:12:48 GMT -5
Miroslav Pantic: "... the term" Serb "or" Greek "is certainly a religious definition of the Orthodox Church I already gave you the Indo-European definition of it's etymology. You're a fantastic chap... really I mean that. sklav=serb(servant)=slav I think you guys were more akin to Bulgarian language and then bcs of religion the shift was made
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Post by rex362 on Jan 11, 2013 18:15:49 GMT -5
please now ....you are recently called serbs ....dont fall for the legends or whats rewritten for you
you did not walk into the balkans as serbs !
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Post by rex362 on Jan 11, 2013 18:17:46 GMT -5
So the serbs were Bulgarian, they spoke Bulgarian which in turn has its roots in the language of the Church. Church Slavonic was born not earlier than when these2 priests NO EARLIER "Old Church Slavonic or Old Church Slavic (abbreviated as OCS), also known as also Old Bulgarian or Old Macedonian, was the first literary Slavic language." FACT !
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Post by Balkaneros on Jan 11, 2013 18:19:11 GMT -5
please now ....you are recently called serbs ....dont fall for the legends or whats rewritten for you you did not walk into the balkans as serbs ! Serbs were not the first to record themselves as SERBS. What kind of logic is this, did the Albanians always call themselves Albanians?
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Post by rex362 on Jan 11, 2013 18:23:43 GMT -5
so in essence this moment (9th-10th century) marks the beginning of "race" Slav, which took its name from the term:
Serbian slave = (Servant) = Slavic
see dualism of serbian-Slavic name/term creates confusion, because the serbs are a nation today, and the first 1000 years was one of the terms that was used to identify all the followers of the Church Slavonic and has not to do with Ethnos.
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Post by Balkaneros on Jan 11, 2013 18:25:03 GMT -5
So the serbs were Bulgarian, they spoke Bulgarian which in turn has its roots in the language of the Church. Church Slavonic was born not earlier than when these2 priests NO EARLIER "Old Church Slavonic or Old Church Slavic (abbreviated as OCS), also known as also Old Bulgarian or Old Macedonian, was the first literary Slavic language." FACT ! Perhaps officially, but the first cylliric alphabet was found in the Damatia region. So it's A FACT that the alphabet existed long before it became Old Church Slavonic. Bulgarian today is just a f**ked up dialect of Serbian, this can be verified through it's extensive vocabulary and it's origins of words. The Bulgarians are a Turkic tribe that only later got in relations with the Slavs, through many many reasons. They are Slavic today, but not originally, trust me don't argue with me here. Slavic history is my specialty I travelled to 6 Slavic countries to learn what I know today. I have seen the orignal documentation. Bulgarians for the most part aknowledge this, they only get defensive when you tell them [they are not Slavic (today)]. Although they will accept that they weren't always. The only Slavic land I haven't visited or spent time in the Balkans is Albania. I say Slavic because the majority of what is written in stone in your land is OF SLAVIC ORIGIN. We were there before you.
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Post by rex362 on Jan 11, 2013 18:30:03 GMT -5
so can you kind of agree that religion of slavs of the balkans also unified certain groups with separate entities ?
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Post by rex362 on Jan 11, 2013 18:33:38 GMT -5
in other words ...... serbian, Bulgarian, macedonian, etc. though today vernacular, are all derivatives of a liturgical language (or cultures). you think thats ok to say ?
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Post by Balkaneros on Jan 11, 2013 18:36:47 GMT -5
The Albanians were slaves to the Greater Empires as always, as seen today and used as a buffer in the Balkans to keep Serbs and Greeks alike on their toes and occupied. Without the Albanian element in the Balkans, only prosperity awaits.
The Ottomans were the first to put your ancestors to use, by buying there children for a few peices of gold and training them to fight the enemy. Your mothers and fathers were lining up ready to hand over their children so they can have an easier life... as a muslim.
You were handed an identity which contradicts your own theories of origins.
You sold your souls 600 years ago and this is what it got you. A degenerate population capable of nothing, poverty beyond any European standard and a violent nature instilled in all of you. Not to mention the constant trend of not understanding their own identity.
This is why you are incapable of being on your own and independant.
For example. You probably have no job, s**tty incomme and dream of going back home when you cant. However, all this propaganda makes your heart feel warm am I correct? YOU are useless, but someone somewhere HOPEFULLY will stand up to represent.
This is the Albanian nature.
SERBS will be the first to critisize their own before the world has a chance to. You dogs will blindly follow anybody who spits out the same s**t talk you do. In essence of it all, I CAN BE YOUR LEADER, I know exactly what needs to be done to control you f**ks.
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