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Post by Beach Police on Feb 11, 2013 14:46:23 GMT -5
Schoolboy who fled Kosovo for Scotland became underworld druglord AS A 10-year-old Arben Dumani started a new life in Scotland away from his war-torn homeland. Some 13 years later and he has now been caged for leading an organised crime network which plotted to flood our nation with £1.2million of heavily cut cocaine. Arben Dumani and his family fled Kosovo for a new life in Scotland
Spindrift Photo Agency DUMANI was just 10 when he and his family fled the horrors of war-torn Kosovo for a new life in Scotland. But we can reveal how the child refugee took the opportunity... to build a drugs and crime empire. The 23-year-old led an organised crime network which plotted to flood Scotland with £1.2million of heavily cut cocaine. He was at the head of a gang of Kosovans and Albanians targeted by the Scottish Crime and Drug Enforcement Agency’s Operation Eclipse. Detectives trailed the four-man crew for a month and bugged their house before swooping on a property in Glasgow’s Kinning Park. They recovered a £1.2million cocaine haul along with a hydraulic press used to repack the drug after it has been cut with other substances to boost profits. Police also found photos of the men snorting the powder and posing with wads of money. The gang were led by Mercedes-driving Dumani. In 1999, tears turned to smiles as he and six fellow Kosovan refugees started their first day at school in Glasgow. Language experts and psychologists were on hand to help them settle in their strange but welcoming new surroundings. Little Arben, speaking through an interpreter, said: “It was good, we played football and we found a lot of friends. I drew pictures of houses and I am learning the days of the week in English. It was interesting and I was happy.” But last week, he was in the dock at the High Court in Glasgow along with Albert Memia, 25, Fabion Ponari, 23, and Gjeorgj Pjetri, 28. All four are now behind bars for drug dealing. Gjeorgj Pjetri at the High Court Glasgow Spindrift Photo Agency SCDEA Detective Chief Superintendent Athol Aitken said: “This was a significant quantity of drugs that would have caused untold harm to Scottish communities and I welcome the court result. It will ensure the individuals involved are held accountable for their crimes. “Operation Eclipse is an intelligence-led operation by the SCDEA tackling the organised distribution of high purity cocaine being imported into Scotland and adulterated to maximise profit on the Scottish illicit drug market. “This is a case of dealers supplying to dealers and an unusual aspect of the investigation was the recovery of equipment used to compress the cocaine into pellets, to deceive other drug dealers into believing it was of higher purity. “The adulteration of drugs is commonplace and is used by serious organised crime groups to bulk out their products so they can increase their profit share.” Dumani and his gang were involved in the “high level and large scale” drugs operation last May. Prosecutors said their coke was intended for users “in communities across Scotland”. Officers from SCDEA spent weeks tracking Dumani and Memia coming and going from a flat in Glasgow’s Milnpark Gardens. Albert Memia, known as Diti to his friends, snorts lines of cocaine Spindrift Photo Agency They used the empty property to mix high-purity cocaine with a bulking agent. Typically, street level cocaine in Scotland is so heavily mixed that it is around five per cent pure. They, along with a third man, were also spotted with a hydraulic press, which was used to repackage the drugs. Prosecutor Andrew Miller told the court that Dumani and Memia were aware of police investigative techniques and used latex gloves in a bid to limit DNA being left behind. On May 30, detectives removed three large blocks of cocaine from a kitchen cupboard. Later, Dumani dropped Memia at the house, and he discovered the drugs were gone. Memia called his friend, telling him: “Hello Luli, come here quickly – everything is lost.” Detectives moved in and arrested the pair. They discovered a BlackBerry phone in Dumani’s Merc. It contained a photo of Memia snorting cocaine that had been arranged to spell out his nickname “Diti”. Another showed Dumani waving £100 notes while Pjetri was snapped snorting the drug. Courier Ponari was stopped the same day at Dumani’s home in Balornock, Glasgow. He’d been planning to deliver £235,000 of cocaine that had been stuffed inside a case. Pjetri was detained after he had earlier been spotted taking part in a drugs handover at Springfield Quay in Glasgow. Dumani denied during the trial that he was involved in drug dealing, claiming he was the victim of a series of “inexplicable shocks”. He said he owned the BlackBerry when the photo of him was taken – but had later given the phone to Memia. Dumani claimed he never entered the Milnpark Gardens flat – and insisted he sat on the doorstep whenever Memia went in. Albert Memia has been convicted of his part in an Albanian cocain dealing Spindrift Photo Agency Mr Miller told the jury: “If that is indeed true then he is clearly one of the most gullible, naive, unworldly and unlucky people you will ever meet.”
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Post by rex362 on Feb 11, 2013 16:16:52 GMT -5
thanks for the news ...we can count on you BP
now imagine if his family did not have to flee Kosova ....would his life of been different ?
who knows
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Post by Balkaneros on Feb 11, 2013 17:30:59 GMT -5
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Post by Shqipni13 on Feb 11, 2013 18:07:06 GMT -5
I googled serbian drug dealers and there is plenty of shit that comes up. Who gives a fuck?
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 11, 2013 18:32:37 GMT -5
i call this entepreneural spirit, i take my hat off to anyone who has the balls to do that, at least they do not curl up in a ball and allow life to penetrate them in the arse like picko, grab the bull by the horn, beats working in an office!
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Post by Shqipni13 on Feb 11, 2013 18:40:41 GMT -5
^Too risky.
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Post by lokii on Feb 11, 2013 23:14:47 GMT -5
It is really simple, an opurtunity was present for this guy to become a criminal and he took it, now his ass will be some prisoners trophy and that is it..end off..where he comes from means nothing. i call this entepreneural spirit, i take my hat off to anyone who has the balls to do that
Nah just a typical criminal, as is evident from his statement below they are like rats that will turn on each other, nothing to be taking your hat off for.
Dumani denied during the trial that he was involved in drug dealing, claiming he was the victim of a series of “inexplicable shocks”. He said he owned the BlackBerry when the photo of him was taken – but had later given the phone to Memia.
Dumani claimed he never entered the Milnpark Gardens flat – and insisted he sat on the doorstep whenever Memia went in.
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Post by amateurs on Feb 12, 2013 4:59:12 GMT -5
i call this entepreneural spirit, i take my hat off to anyone who has the balls to do that, at least they do not curl up in a ball and allow life to penetrate them in the arse like picko, grab the bull by the horn, beats working in an office! The Mexican drug cartels who kidnap and behead civilians in order to intimidate others (law officials as well as rival cartels), are also serving their "entrepreneurial spirit". In fact, the Serbs who are guilty of war crimes in Bosnia and Kosovo, also did it for their "entrepreneurial spirit". Let's take our hats off to them! Or is it that we choose to romanticize certain criminal figures who come from a disadvantageous background, granting them manly qualities for being "bold"?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 12, 2013 6:36:10 GMT -5
i call this entepreneural spirit, i take my hat off to anyone who has the balls to do that, at least they do not curl up in a ball and allow life to penetrate them in the arse like picko, grab the bull by the horn, beats working in an office! -------, you confuse criminal tendencies for entrepreneurial (and not entepreneural you illiterate fart) spirit. The difference between the Entrepreneur and the criminal is the same like the one between the Serb (builder, engineer) and the the ----- ------
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 12, 2013 6:38:51 GMT -5
i call this entepreneural spirit, i take my hat off to anyone who has the balls to do that, at least they do not curl up in a ball and allow life to penetrate them in the arse like picko, grab the bull by the horn, beats working in an office! The Mexican drug cartels who kidnap and behead civilians in order to intimidate others (law officials as well as rival cartels), are also serving their "entrepreneurial spirit". In fact, the Serbs who are guilty of war crimes in Bosnia and Kosovo, also did it for their "entrepreneurial spirit". Let's take our hats off to them! Or is it that we choose to romanticize certain criminal figures who come from a disadvantageous background, granting them manly qualities for being "bold"? what war crimes? you mean the western lies later proven to be all a hoax? LMAO
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 12, 2013 10:15:57 GMT -5
i call this entepreneural spirit, i take my hat off to anyone who has the balls to do that, at least they do not curl up in a ball and allow life to penetrate them in the arse like picko, grab the bull by the horn, beats working in an office! The Mexican drug cartels who kidnap and behead civilians in order to intimidate others (law officials as well as rival cartels), are also serving their "entrepreneurial spirit". In fact, the Serbs who are guilty of war crimes in Bosnia and Kosovo, also did it for their "entrepreneurial spirit". Let's take our hats off to them! Or is it that we choose to romanticize certain criminal figures who come from a disadvantageous background, granting them manly qualities for being "bold"? what are you banging on about? are you equating genocide and mass murder with drug dealing? i think you took your analogy too far there mate, fair enough for someone who is educated and can get a decent paid job but what about those who did not have those privileges? what's he supposed to do, shine your shoes? fuck that, if there was a choice between leading an honest life and working at burger king and selling drugs to make money i would take the latter any day and salute all those that take the risk.
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 12, 2013 10:19:24 GMT -5
i call this entepreneural spirit, i take my hat off to anyone who has the balls to do that, at least they do not curl up in a ball and allow life to penetrate them in the arse like picko, grab the bull by the horn, beats working in an office! ------l, you confuse criminal tendencies for entrepreneurial (and not entepreneural you illiterate fart) spirit. The difference between the Entrepreneur and the criminal is the same like the one between the Serb (builder, engineer) and the the ------
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 12, 2013 10:45:38 GMT -5
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Post by amateurs on Feb 12, 2013 11:32:53 GMT -5
The Mexican drug cartels who kidnap and behead civilians in order to intimidate others (law officials as well as rival cartels), are also serving their "entrepreneurial spirit". In fact, the Serbs who are guilty of war crimes in Bosnia and Kosovo, also did it for their "entrepreneurial spirit". Let's take our hats off to them! Or is it that we choose to romanticize certain criminal figures who come from a disadvantageous background, granting them manly qualities for being "bold"? what are you banging on about? are you equating genocide and mass murder with drug dealing? i think you took your analogy too far there mate, fair enough for someone who is educated and can get a decent paid job but what about those who did not have those privileges? what's he supposed to do, shine your shoes? f**k that, if there was a choice between leading an honest life and working at burger king and selling drugs to make money i would take the latter any day and salute all those that take the risk. What I'm banging about is that the one who chooses the criminal lifestyle over hard work is not necessarily a sign of courage, and one shouldn't take his hat off for this. Also, I don't think you would make that statement if it was criminals committing crimes in Albania, thus being a force of destruction in your own country. Would you say it's okay for poor people in Albania to sell drugs? I doubt you would. That wouldn't be very patriotic, would it? But somehow it's ok to harvest resources in foreign countries because the victims are not your own people, and the Godfather is a very good movie. I hope you realize that drug dealing does lead to violence, to death, and to higher health costs; but no, I wasn't comparing the severity of drug dealing to committing war crimes. What I was comparing was the self-interest that lies in that kind of business. So tell me: if you were in Albania, and you had few opportunities to live a decent middle class life, would you work at Burgerking or would you sell drugs and destroy the life of your compatriots? Would your answer be any different were you to live in a foreign country?
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 12, 2013 11:56:19 GMT -5
is anyone, ever going to take any disciplinary actions for repeatedly insulting family members against ---- or am i going to be forced to resort to the same sort of language?
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 12, 2013 12:03:51 GMT -5
What I'm banging about is that the one who chooses the criminal lifestyle over hard work is not necessarily a sign of courage, and one shouldn't take his hat off for this. Also, I don't think you would make that statement if it was criminals committing crimes in Albania, thus being a force of destruction in your own country. Would you say it's okay for poor people in Albania to sell drugs? I doubt you would. That wouldn't be very patriotic, would it? But somehow it's ok to harvest resources in foreign countries because the victims are not your own people, and the Godfather is a very good movie. wow! what does anything have to do with nationality or patriotism? are you seriously giving me a moral lesson on the good and the bad? you live in a bubble or smth? have you taken a look around this fucking world? do you see anything fair and balanced? tabbacco and alcohol kill 1000000000000 times more people than drugs, what's your point? what does anything have to do with where i live? why are you relating drug dealing with patriotism, i don't follow. americans killed 1 million iraqis in a phoney war, there is daily persecution and execution of people all over africa, wall street robbed people blind of their money...you get mad at a motherfucker for selling weed to person who wants to get high?
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Post by amateurs on Feb 12, 2013 16:47:43 GMT -5
What I'm banging about is that the one who chooses the criminal lifestyle over hard work is not necessarily a sign of courage, and one shouldn't take his hat off for this. Also, I don't think you would make that statement if it was criminals committing crimes in Albania, thus being a force of destruction in your own country. Would you say it's okay for poor people in Albania to sell drugs? I doubt you would. That wouldn't be very patriotic, would it? But somehow it's ok to harvest resources in foreign countries because the victims are not your own people, and the Godfather is a very good movie. wow! what does anything have to do with nationality or patriotism? are you seriously giving me a moral lesson on the good and the bad? you live in a bubble or smth? have you taken a look around this f**king world? do you see anything fair and balanced? tabbacco and alcohol kill 1000000000000 times more people than drugs, what's your point? what does anything have to do with where i live? why are you relating drug dealing with patriotism, i don't follow. americans killed 1 million iraqis in a phoney war, there is daily persecution and execution of people all over africa, wall street robbed people blind of their money...you get mad at a motherf**ker for selling weed to person who wants to get high? Why are you digressing and then say that I'm making irrelevant arguments? You defended the choices that this guy made, saying that he had "balls", and further arguing that it's better to take risks, even if one works as a drug dealer, rather than working in Burger King. My focus are on your choices, and yes, on your morality, because I don't believe that what you wrote there, would apply to your country. Here's how patriotism relates to this: because you care for Albania, I don't believe you would like someone like that guy to commit to such activities if it meant that Albanian society suffered from it. However, I believe you are ok if his actions affect the society of foreign countries because they are not your own people. Yes, alcohol and tobacco kill more people than drugs, but that's because they are used by far more people than (illegal) drugs are; if heavy drugs would be used to the same extent as alcohol and tobacco, the society would collapse. But yes, there are more destructive things than this, such as wars ... yet that's not what we were discussing. In short, I'm calling you out, and you can give me an honest reply; or, you could try to make me look silly by pretending that I'm inducing red herring, but I believe you're being hypocritical. If you're not being a hypocrite, then your answer to the two questions below would be No. So, would you hold the same opinion of the guy--that he had balls and that he made the right choice--if he dealt with drugs in Albania, making Albanian teenagers addicted to narcotics, which in turn would lead to violence? A simple question, really. And another question that relates to the first: if a citizen from a poor country comes to Albania and works as a drug dealer in a well-off neighborhood, the effects of his actions being the same as in the first scenario, would you hold him in the same high regard as you hold this Albanian criminal?
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Post by atdhetar on Feb 12, 2013 17:37:50 GMT -5
i'm merely expressing my opinion so spare me your righteous indignation, i know the different between virtuous and illegal i'm not 5 years old, i don't need to you to grab me by the hand and show me the ropes, or patronise me....i'm not justifying drug dealing or saying that is a brilliant career choice, you take your analogy to the extremes and relate it to patriotism or apply certain scenarios that you have in your head, i'm just taking a cynical approach, because reality is much harsher, people that have no skills or education i.e. those who weren't privileged enough or didn't have the same oportunities that you and me did, are not going to shovel your shit just to adhere to your moral standards and utopic view of the world,
when you stumble in to burger king at 2 a.m. in the morning absolutely plastered taking the piss out of the poor sod behind the counter who happens to just work the graveyard shift that night in order to make rent money, what thought is running through his mind when he sees you taking the piss out of his funny hat? i hardly think its 'at least i lead a morally healthy lifestyle that society appriciates and praises me for it'
wake up son, i am not endorsing a drug dealing life choice, but in the scale of shitty things it does not rank that high in my opinion.
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Post by amateurs on Feb 12, 2013 18:04:19 GMT -5
i'm merely expressing my opinion so spare me your righteous indignation, i know the different between virtuous and illegal i'm not 5 years old, i don't need to you to grab me by the hand and show me the ropes, or patronise me....i'm not justifying drug dealing or saying that is a brilliant career choice, you take your analogy to the extremes and relate it to patriotism or apply certain scenarios that you have in your head, i'm just taking a cynical approach, because reality is much harsher, people that have no skills or education i.e. those who weren't privileged enough or didn't have the same oportunities that you and me did, are not going to shovel your s**t just to adhere to your moral standards and utopic view of the world, when you stumble in to burger king at 2 a.m. in the morning absolutely plastered taking the piss out of the poor sod behind the counter who happens to just work the graveyard shift that night in order to make rent money, what thought is running through his mind when he sees you taking the piss out of his funny hat? i hardly think its 'at least i lead a morally healthy lifestyle that society appriciates and praises me for it' wake up son, i am not endorsing a drug dealing life choice, but in the scale of s**tty things it does not rank that high in my opinion. No, you should be the one waking up. I'm not being idealistic, nor am I being unrealistic. The reality is this: one has greater odds to succeed by taking a shitty job rather than dealing with drugs. Further more, most people are poor, and if all of these poor people, or even a a quarter of these people would turn to crime, society would go to hell. And, it is also in the poor people's interest that society is stable, so most who turn to crime make, in the long run, a poor choice. But this is about game theories and evolutionary biology. I wasn't talking about the success rate for such criminals. I was talking about you, and I wasn't trying to be righteous, nor was I trying to convince you that this is morally wrong. What I'm arguing here is that you apply different morals for the same destructive means when it comes to your people, and the people of other countries. So actually, not only do I find you a hypocrite in this regard, but also unloving in ill-willing towards those that are not your own. I seriously doubt that you would hold the same pessimistic attitude if this was happening in Albania. Indeed, I bet you'd be quite judgmental about it, and call them out like you do with Serbs. So I say what I have said before: Albanians are quite tribal in their thinking and are not altruistic towards others. You are quite selfish in most regards. I doubt many of you make volunteer work or give to charity, if it's not about your own. It's okay to traffic foreign women, and brag about it; it's not ok to do so to your own women. It's okay to steal from foreigners, it's not okay to steal from Albanians. It's okay to add to the destruction of foreign societies and profit from it, it's not ok to do so towards the Albanian society. If you're thinking that such reasoning is naive and idealistic, you are right, but maybe not the way you think you are. The naive thing for a society is to accept foreigners who do not hold an altruistic view for humanity. That's what makes a society lose. Perhaps in the future, bad apples will be identified with the help of neurology. But first we have to rid of the retarded privacy- and human right aspect. Here's what we need to do: take the skinny Albanian and scan his brain while in the process, induce images that show people suffering, animals suffering, people being happy, people being poor, and so on. Then measure their brain activity, their heart rate, and other biological reactions to measure his empathy and emotional intelligence. Now I'm talking a bit of nonsense. Naturally this sort of thing shouldn't be applied to Albanians only, but to all foreigners. If you pass, work at Burger King; if you don't, get out! There's nothing fascistic about it. Why want bad apples in your society? However, the naive west would never commit itself to such tests, and instead they're stuck with garbage. Back to the original question, which as I mentioned earlier, dealt with you: would you hold someone in high regard, if he came from a poor background, if he dealt with drugs in Albania, and ruined the lives of young Albanians? You don't have to answer, of course. It's not like you're on trial or anything. Then again, why engage in a discussion if you're not willing to go to the bottom of it?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 13, 2013 0:22:24 GMT -5
is anyone, ever going to take any disciplinary actions for repeatedly insulting family members against ---- or am i going to be forced to resort to the same sort of language? lol, the risky courageous mafiozo is whining for disciplinary actions now. Well you mentioned my wife first in a most improper manner and used the same language *BEFORE* i did. Learn to live with equal standards applied to all. I know this is hard for a spoiled albo, but you gotta try.
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