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Post by Sokol on Apr 16, 2014 19:35:14 GMT -5
www.focus-fen.net/news/2014/04/16/333312/vest-macedonia-giant-cross-to-be-raised-in-aerodrom-municipality-at-easter.html Vest, Macedonia: Giant cross to be raised in Aerodrom Municipality at Easter 16 April 2014 | 13:06 | FOCUS News Agency Source: Focus Information Agency Skopje. A giant cross has been raised in Aerodrom Municipality in the capital city Macedonia, the Macedonian news online edition Vest reports. According to Todor Petrov, chairperson of the World Macedonian Congress, a part of the cross still needs to be completed. The cross, which will be the third-largest in the world, will be officially unveiled at Easter. The cross is being constructed at the initiative of the World Macedonian Congress.
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Post by Sokol on Apr 16, 2014 19:37:21 GMT -5
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Post by kapedan on Apr 16, 2014 23:37:30 GMT -5
Let me guess. This Abrahamic piece of "art" is being raised inside the foundation an old Illyrian castle. Katastrof!!!!!!
Scanderbeg's penis touches the clouds, I don't think this cross can go higher than that. The most it can go is up to his horse's b*lls.
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Post by rex362 on Apr 18, 2014 16:47:28 GMT -5
spend the money on a free dental clinic for the people .....
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Post by kapedan on Apr 18, 2014 17:18:52 GMT -5
spend the money on a free dental clinic for the people ..... Rex, I was arguing by using the same approach in some other forum with another ex-FYROM citizen after the incident that happened to Czar Lazar statue. I was defending the idea of spending the finances on healthcare, improving infrastructure, integrate citizens with one other, bring new technology, attract business to open jobs, lower down the differences, invest on every minotiry and integrate all ethnicites without disscrimination. His answer was: "We make statues because they attract tourists." As if people don't know what Macedonia is today, and like someone from Australia or from any part of EU, will spend money to see this cross or any other bronx statue. Even if they do, how dum is that to spend the citizens taxes on buildig statues and then excpet to make revenues only by tourism?
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Post by rex362 on Apr 18, 2014 17:43:27 GMT -5
they have this idea that the one that builds the most crosses wins .....
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Post by Sokol on Apr 21, 2014 18:32:26 GMT -5
they have this idea that the one that builds the most crosses wins ..... and albanians have the idea that building the most and largest mosques wins....sponsored of course by saudi money. any chance of these funds beings used for building clinics in poor albanians villages???
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Post by rex362 on Apr 21, 2014 18:34:25 GMT -5
so your saying its a contest ...
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Post by kapedan on Apr 21, 2014 22:12:52 GMT -5
Of course it's a contest Rex. He is not openly admitting it, because he thinks he is different from that (look at how he talks: -"poor Albanian villages"- as if villages at the East are exploiding from the richness and don't have the same problems). Despite all the denying at the end it is him the one who tries to justify the action. But he wasn't clear enough in explaining if he was compeating against Saudis or the mosques themsleves?
The saddest part is that this object is initiated by the diasspora. So long for the open-mindeness.
If there are funds that enter inside the so called Republic of Macedonia and which are spent for usless purposes don't blame the Albanians that live there; blame the government for allowing such things to happen.
It is not the choice of the simple folks why the government allows to spend money on the building of mosques and hesitates to invest in technology and infrastucture.
There are two reasons why this phenomena can happen: 1. The government is too weak to stop and controll it. 2. The government consciously allows it. Whichever of these two can be none of them is right.
Even if the money of the Saudies are wrongfully used, that still cannot be compared with what R.of Macedonia is doing nowadays. It is using its tax-payers money to invest on ridiculous projects because it wants to compete with the funds that came form Saudis.
Let's say that for whatever reason R.of Mac is allowing Saudis to invest; why should the simple tax payers should be part of it?
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Post by Sokol on Apr 22, 2014 1:37:42 GMT -5
so your saying its a contest ... yes, sadly. It would be much better if the contest was economic in nature and benefited everyone.
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Post by Sokol on Apr 22, 2014 1:38:49 GMT -5
Of course it's a contest Rex. He is not openly admitting it, because he thinks he is different from that (look at how he talks: -"poor Albanian villages"- as if villages at the East are exploiding from the richness and don't have the same problems). Despite all the denying at the end it is him the one who tries to justify the action. But he wasn't clear enough in explaining if he was compeating against Saudis or the mosques themsleves? The saddest part is that this object is initiated by the diasspora. So long for the open-mindeness. If there are funds that enter inside the so called Republic of Macedonia and which are spent for usless purposes don't blame the Albanians that live there; blame the government for allowing such things to happen. It is not the choice of the simple folks why the government allows to spend money on the building of mosques and hesitates to invest in technology and infrastucture. There are two reasons why this phenomena can happen: 1. The government is too weak to stop and controll it. 2. The government consciously allows it. Whichever of these two can be none of them is right. Even if the money of the Saudies are wrongfully used, that still cannot be compared with what R.of Macedonia is doing nowadays. It is using its tax-payers money to invest on ridiculous projects because it wants to compete with the funds that came form Saudis. Let's say that for whatever reason R.of Mac is allowing Saudis to invest; why should the simple tax payers should be part of it? easy there fella, albanians are part of the govt. always have been.
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Post by kapedan on Apr 22, 2014 8:13:44 GMT -5
Not always have been, only after 2001 Ohrid Agreement.
Anyhow,
Who directs R. of Mac's. Secret Services for to see where the funds come from. Is it Albanians or Macedonains?
Who directs the Interior Ministry that screens all the foreign organizations that fund activites or objects?
Foregin Affairs that attracts investments who directs them?
Who is the minister of Finances that distribute the wealth and taxes money?
The minister of Transportation that allows such objects to be build?
The minister of Culture?
---All of them Macedonians.
There are 5 Ministers with Albanian origin in the cabinet made out of 14 ministries, but don't blame those 5 for these phenomenas. It is the whole government that is guilty. And the majority of the government is being run by Macedonians, therefore they have higher reponsibilities and the fault is mostly theirs for allowing the wasting of money in such manners.
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Post by Sokol on Apr 22, 2014 19:00:00 GMT -5
Not always have been, only after 2001 Ohrid Agreement. Anyhow, Who directs R. of Mac's. Secret Services for to see where the funds come from. Is it Albanians or Macedonains? Who directs the Interior Ministry that screens all the foreign organizations that fund activites or objects? Foregin Affairs that attracts investments who directs them? Who is the minister of Finances that distribute the wealth and taxes money? The minister of Transportation that allows such objects to be build? The minister of Culture? ---All of them Macedonians. There are 5 Ministers with Albanian origin in the cabinet made out of 14 ministries, but don't blame those 5 for these phenomenas. It is the whole government that is guilty. And the majority of the government is being run by Macedonians, therefore they have higher reponsibilities and the fault is mostly theirs for allowing the wasting of money in such manners. no, albanians have been in govt since independence, look at the ministry of education for example and the past ministers; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Education_and_Science_%28Macedonia%29i take your point though, most are Macedonians, and this is to be expected in a Macedonian-majority state.
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Post by kapedan on Apr 26, 2014 0:50:06 GMT -5
Not always have been, only after 2001 Ohrid Agreement. Anyhow, Who directs R. of Mac's. Secret Services for to see where the funds come from. Is it Albanians or Macedonains? Who directs the Interior Ministry that screens all the foreign organizations that fund activites or objects? Foregin Affairs that attracts investments who directs them? Who is the minister of Finances that distribute the wealth and taxes money? The minister of Transportation that allows such objects to be build? The minister of Culture? ---All of them Macedonians. There are 5 Ministers with Albanian origin in the cabinet made out of 14 ministries, but don't blame those 5 for these phenomenas. It is the whole government that is guilty. And the majority of the government is being run by Macedonians, therefore they have higher reponsibilities and the fault is mostly theirs for allowing the wasting of money in such manners. no, albanians have been in govt since independence, look at the ministry of education for example and the past ministers; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Education_and_Science_%28Macedonia%29i take your point though, most are Macedonians, and this is to be expected in a Macedonian-majority state. Weally? You really think that Albanians in Macedonia had the same rights as they had before the Ohrid Agreement? Your claiming is like saying that during the Cold War, US was a communist country because it had some communists inside it. England was a Nazi country during WW2 because it had some Nazi elements inside it. Soviet Russia was a democratic country because it had some liberal elemnts inside it....... I appreciate the fact that Macedonia allows Albanins to represent themsleves today, but don't try to portray like the rights of Albanians were the same before and after Ohrid Agreement.
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Post by Sokol on Apr 27, 2014 18:53:22 GMT -5
Weally? You really think that Albanians in Macedonia had the same rights as they had before the Ohrid Agreement? Your claiming is like saying that during the Cold War, US was a communist country because it had some communists inside it. England was a Nazi country during WW2 because it had some Nazi elements inside it. Soviet Russia was a democratic country because it had some liberal elemnts inside it....... I appreciate the fact that Macedonia allows Albanins to represent themsleves today, but don't try to portray like the rights of Albanians were the same before and after Ohrid Agreement. you said there were no albanian ministers before 2001, just proving you wrong that's all.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 2, 2014 10:02:21 GMT -5
can't argue with albs (or modern pseudo-vlaho-greeks), they want more and more and more without ever working or giving smth back.
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Post by Balkaneros on May 2, 2014 11:07:37 GMT -5
can't argue with albs (or modern pseudo- vlaho- greeks), they want more and more and more without ever working or giving smth back. This is you - a Greko-alb-vlah, now go jump off a cliff
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Post by Kralj Vatra on May 6, 2014 2:53:02 GMT -5
you have no clue. and please STOP TAKING THESE PILLS!
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Post by rex362 on Jul 8, 2014 12:53:23 GMT -5
government money is being used here ....like the majority of Churches and crosses erected we know what religion most slavo macs are ...no problem ...but c'mon its a bit to much even now this Church over the historic Kalaj / Fortress that when it was built no slavs ever existed here whatsoever ... its basically to plant history .....more fake history ..... but thats ok bcs we have history of Albanians with churches built before slavs come into the Balkans
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Post by Sokol on Jul 8, 2014 18:44:59 GMT -5
The cross is built with donations, stop lying. In any case, you are muslims so just stay clear of churches thanks.
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