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Post by Babylon Enigma on Sept 22, 2015 21:32:20 GMT -5
Neo-fascist Greek party takes third place in wave of voter fury
Golden Dawn wins 7% of election vote – with support from around 500,000 Greeks(not necessarily, low voter turnout) – behind Syriza and New Democracy
Golden Dawn, one of Europe’s most violent far-right parties, has emerged as one of the biggest winners of Sunday’s general election(how they have stagnated) in Greece, consolidating its presence in parliament and power on the streets.
The neo-fascist group came in third with 7% of the vote, behind the triumphant leftwing Syriza and conservative New Democracy. The result was met with abhorrence and dismay(by whom?). In April most of its leaders were put on trial on charges of running a criminal organisation masquerading as a political force. The party – which has denied the charges – stands accused of murder, armed attacks, money laundering and trafficking.
“Golden Dawn is a movement of power, it is not a protest movement any more,” the party’s Swastika- tattooed spokesman, Ilias Kasidiaris, told Star TV as it became clear that the extremists had retained their position as the country’s third biggest political force. “Golden Dawn is the only party seeing an increase in its percentage. In October when Greeks begin to experience the consequences of the memorandum and illegal immigration you will see our support increase radically,” said the former marine, berating the country’s mainstream media for boycotting the party.
With 18 MPs in the 300-seat house, around 500,000 Greeks cast ballots in favour of Golden Dawn. The organisation performed especially well in Attica, the greater Athens region and the Aegean islands of Lesbos and Kos where voter support doubled. Both islands have been overwhelmed in recent months by thousands of refugees and migrants fleeing conflict and poverty(lol notice the sympathy attempt for the invaders of Europe).
Golden Dawn’s anti-immigrant stance at a time of mounting fears over Greece’s frontline role in Europe’s biggest humanitarian crisis in recent history(it's an invasion, those millions surely aren't human), almost certainly helped. The party, portraying itself as the “only nationalist choice” played heavily on fears that Greeks could soon become a minority in their own country(GD didn't earn the votes by merit, they preyed on peoples emotions, says the jew media). But, so too, did its shrill opposition to the internationally sponsored bailout accords, or memoranda, that the extremists have said amount to “ethnocide” or death of the nation. Polls showed that 16.6% of those who voted for Golden Dawn were victims of record levels of unemployment – the most grievous side-effect of massive budget cuts and lay-offs enforced as the price of being bailed out to the tune of €326bn by creditors from the EU and International Monetary Fund (IMF).
“In terms of absolute numbers Golden Dawn was the only party to hold its ground,” said Aristides Hatzis, political commentator and Athens University professor. “It was not at all affected by the very high rate of [electoral] abstention. Its performance is a danger and disgrace for our democracy.”
The party won 6.8%(wrong 6.28%) of the vote in the election in January despite most of its leadership being behind bars. MPs, including Nikos Michaloliakos, the group’s founder, and Kasidiaris, his anointed dauphin, were released this year after serving the pre-trial maximum of 18 months in prison.
Analysts had predicted a dip in Golden Dawn’s popularity after Michaloliakos admitted to “political responsibility”(probably a media misquote, typical jew journalism) for the brutal murder of an anti-fascist Greek rap singer in September 2013. The diminutive leader, an admirer of Hitler, has denied neo-Nazi links, but fascist paraphernalia were discovered in his Athens home upon his arrest. Golden Dawn’s emblem resembles a swastika.
With the ultra-nationalists using the refugee crisis and economic despair of Greeks to gain ground, political scientists said Sunday’s election was further proof that the Golden Dawn phenomenon(the left always diagnoses unpleasant facts as some disease or unnatural anomaly) had assumed particularly worrying dimensions. All agreed that the virulent anti-immigrant, antisemitic, anti-EU party had spread its tentacles deep into Greek society. “It tells us that Golden Dawn is not just a symptom of the crisis but is here to stay,” said Dimitris Keridis, professor of international political science at Athens’ Panteion University. “And it shows that the Greek disease is not superficial, it’s much deeper than many think (how can we cure ourselves Doctor, tell us?).”
Before the outbreak of Greece’s great debt crisis, the far-rightists were a fringe party on the political scene gaining less than 0.5% of the vote.
www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/21/neo-fascist-greek-party-election-golden-dawn-third-place
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Post by Babylon Enigma on Sept 22, 2015 21:37:58 GMT -5
Despite the headline, GD performance was poor. Even if they triple in the next elections(4 years) they wouldn't not have enough power in the parliament to change anything. The downward spiral in Greece can go on as much as 8 years before any real change can come. Even that is only a possibility if Greeks vote GD into power.
I don't know Greek local elections cycles but I thinks its done every 5 years. So the next elections could encompass both local and parliamentary in one election.
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Post by Jon Do on Sept 25, 2015 20:56:59 GMT -5
Despite the headline, GD performance was poor. Even if they triple in the next elections(4 years) they wouldn't not have enough power in the parliament to change anything. The downward spiral in Greece can go on as much as 8 years before any real change can come. Even that is only a possibility if Greeks vote GD into power.
I don't know Greek local elections cycles but I thinks its done every 5 years. So the next elections could encompass both local and parliamentary in one election. Greece is lost. It's will officially become an Arabian state and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Just imagine, in less than 10 years time all of Greece will be pyrros'.
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Post by pyrrosveliki on Sept 29, 2015 6:22:02 GMT -5
Despite the headline, GD performance was poor. Even if they triple in the next elections(4 years) they wouldn't not have enough power in the parliament to change anything. The downward spiral in Greece can go on as much as 8 years before any real change can come. Even that is only a possibility if Greeks vote GD into power.
I don't know Greek local elections cycles but I thinks its done every 5 years. So the next elections could encompass both local and parliamentary in one election. Greece is lost. It's will officially become an Arabian state and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Just imagine, in less than 10 years time all of Greece will be pyrros'. The only salvation for Greece is to be re-occupied by Slavs, its initial and ancient inhabitants. Your vision of Greece little Cindy is far from that.
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Post by Jon Do on Sept 29, 2015 11:11:41 GMT -5
Greece is lost. It's will officially become an Arabian state and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Just imagine, in less than 10 years time all of Greece will be pyrros'. The only salvation for Greece is to be re-occupied by Slavs, its initial and ancient inhabitants. Your vision of Greece little Cindy is far from that. This stinks of desperation. An inferior trying to argue himself into being part of the superior caste.
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Post by rex362 on Sept 29, 2015 11:29:36 GMT -5
I hope they dont rape my vlach brethren
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Post by pyrrosveliki on Oct 1, 2015 6:35:35 GMT -5
The only salvation for Greece is to be re-occupied by Slavs, its initial and ancient inhabitants. Your vision of Greece little Cindy is far from that. This stinks of desperation. An inferior trying to argue himself into being part of the superior caste. Ancient Greeks were not inferior to Slavs, but rather cousins in blood and very similar. Now you are neither a Greek nor a Slav, that's why sucking germanic dicks is your no1 occupation.
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Post by Babylon Enigma on Oct 1, 2015 20:30:56 GMT -5
Ancient Greeks were not R1a tribes that is a certain sure. Mycaneyans could have been R1a but they were wiped out by the Dorians(R1b). Ancient Greeks show zero similarity to the dull Poles or Russians, they built their own states too.
But the old inhabitants were not ancient Greeks but useless Greko-Albanians, the Pelasgians, though they retook Greece through miscegenation and bought their way to power(sleazy merchants).
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Post by Babylon Enigma on Oct 1, 2015 20:32:03 GMT -5
Despite the headline, GD performance was poor. Even if they triple in the next elections(4 years) they wouldn't not have enough power in the parliament to change anything. The downward spiral in Greece can go on as much as 8 years before any real change can come. Even that is only a possibility if Greeks vote GD into power.
I don't know Greek local elections cycles but I thinks its done every 5 years. So the next elections could encompass both local and parliamentary in one election. Greece is lost. It's will officially become an Arabian state and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Just imagine, in less than 10 years time all of Greece will be pyrros'.
It's not lost, they actually have a party that is willing to represent Greek interest. No white country can say that at the moment. But they are going to suffer.
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Post by Jon Do on Oct 1, 2015 22:44:59 GMT -5
Greece is lost. It's will officially become an Arabian state and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Just imagine, in less than 10 years time all of Greece will be pyrros'.
It's not lost, they actually have a party that is willing to represent Greek interest. No white country can say that at the moment. But they are going to suffer.
That is true but maybe it's because they have no chance anyway. The Greeks I know "love being Greek" (my big fat greek wedding type Greek) but really have no idea, and what really being Greek is about. Like the Italians guys, who "love being Italian" (you tvs soprano type italians), same shit. It's like a fad for them, as oppose to actually attaining their authentic identity. I know more of and respect their fucking history more than they do.
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Post by pyrrosveliki on Oct 2, 2015 3:07:06 GMT -5
Ancient Greeks were not R1a tribes that is a certain sure. Mycaneyans could have been R1a but they were wiped out by the Dorians(R1b). Ancient Greeks show zero similarity to the dull Poles or Russians, they built their own states too.
But the old inhabitants were not ancient Greeks but useless Greko-Albanians, the Pelasgians, though they retook Greece through miscegenation and bought their way to power(sleazy merchants). wrong in many points. Albanians have nothing to do with anything Illyrian. Albanians were brought by the Arabs/Romans POST 10TH CENTURY AD FOR CHRISTS SAKE. Learn the basics first little barbie. As far as Ancient Greeks and Ancient Slavs are concerned : ANCIENT GREEKS WERE EXTREMELY CLOSE TO ANCIENT SLAVS, I could write PAGES and PAGES on that. No wander that the closest mentality to the Serbs (the most genuine Slavs) in Greece can be found in CRETE ISLAND, a genuine ancient Greek population. As far as Russians and Poles, they are FINE people. I have talked to many and consider them my brothers. Especially one Pole I met near my work was SO PRO-SLAV, and SO anti-German, I was pleasantly surprised.
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Post by Babylon Enigma on Oct 2, 2015 18:34:33 GMT -5
It's not lost, they actually have a party that is willing to represent Greek interest. No white country can say that at the moment. But they are going to suffer.
That is true but maybe it's because they have no chance anyway. The Greeks I know "love being Greek" (my big fat greek wedding type Greek) but really have no idea, and what really being Greek is about. Like the Italians guys, who "love being Italian" (you tvs soprano type italians), same s**t. It's like a fad for them, as oppose to actually attaining their authentic identity. I know more of and respect their f**king history more than they do.
This shallowness Pyrros calls Greko-Albanian. It is really shallow pride based mostly on hype. They're not going to improve on that trust me. But to be realistic no group likes to be brushed aside. Less intelligent groups are more instinct than reason. What's lacking in the west(more like shut off the mainstream) is politics of instinct. Golden Dawn provides that. If Golden Dawn has momentum again you'll see the Greeks rally behind them, because no one wants to be brushed out of existence. Remember when Golden Dawn in the pre-Fyssas days was smashing immigrant black market stands, their popularity soared, and Greece was not raped yet. Now they're going to get raped.
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Post by Babylon Enigma on Oct 2, 2015 18:47:56 GMT -5
Ancient Greeks were not R1a tribes that is a certain sure. Mycaneyans could have been R1a but they were wiped out by the Dorians(R1b). Ancient Greeks show zero similarity to the dull Poles or Russians, they built their own states too.
But the old inhabitants were not ancient Greeks but useless Greko-Albanians, the Pelasgians, though they retook Greece through miscegenation and bought their way to power(sleazy merchants). wrong in many points. Albanians have nothing to do with anything Illyrian. Albanians were brought by the Arabs/Romans POST 10TH CENTURY AD FOR CHRISTS SAKE. Learn the basics first little barbie. As far as Ancient Greeks and Ancient Slavs are concerned : ANCIENT GREEKS WERE EXTREMELY CLOSE TO ANCIENT SLAVS, I could write PAGES and PAGES on that. No wander that the closest mentality to the Serbs (the most genuine Slavs) in Greece can be found in CRETE ISLAND, a genuine ancient Greek population. As far as Russians and Poles, they are FINE people. I have talked to many and consider them my brothers. Especially one Pole I met near my work was SO PRO-SLAV, and SO anti-German, I was pleasantly surprised.
Albanians are Daco-Thracian, and even there, they're not the original IE caste, just like most Greeks are not the original IE Greeks. As far as I'm concerned, all pre-IE folks in the Balkans, whether in Pelepenese or Romania were just Greko-Albanians, similar material. Can you grasp this?
Brought from where?
Serbs and other Slavs differ genetically in breed. The core Serbs derive from Haplogroup I, this gives different personality than R1a males. Crete is different from mainland Greece because Greece has high rates of haplogroup J and low rates of the Greko-Albanian E3b. None of these groups were the source of IE Greeks.
As far as Ancient Greeks and Ancient Slavs are concerned : ANCIENT GREEKS WERE EXTREMELY CLOSE TO ANCIENT SLAVS, I could write PAGES and PAGES on that. LMAO. Ancient Slavs were not even known when ancient Greeks were leaving their mark on the Earth.
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Post by Babylon Enigma on Oct 2, 2015 19:13:57 GMT -5
As far as Russians and Poles, they are FINE people. I have talked to many and consider them my brothers. Especially one Pole I met near my work was SO PRO-SLAV, and SO anti-German, I was pleasantly surprised.
Yeah so, many Poles and Russians I've known were fine folks too, but never have they been outstanding individuals, the type that initiates and builds, the type that makes history and moves it.
It is hilarious you always vouch for Russians and strongly believes in them but never has bothered to visit this heaven on earth, or go live there. LOL I bet Serbs have a superior life and culture compared to those Putinoids and Serbs have less resources available to them.
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Post by Jon Do on Oct 3, 2015 18:26:49 GMT -5
That is true but maybe it's because they have no chance anyway. The Greeks I know "love being Greek" (my big fat greek wedding type Greek) but really have no idea, and what really being Greek is about. Like the Italians guys, who "love being Italian" (you tvs soprano type italians), same s**t. It's like a fad for them, as oppose to actually attaining their authentic identity. I know more of and respect their f**king history more than they do.
This shallowness Pyrros calls Greko-Albanian. It is really shallow pride based mostly on hype. They're not going to improve on that trust me. But to be realistic no group likes to be brushed aside. Less intelligent groups are more instinct than reason. What's lacking in the west(more like shut off the mainstream) is politics of instinct. Golden Dawn provides that. If Golden Dawn has momentum again you'll see the Greeks rally behind them, because no one wants to be brushed out of existence. Remember when Golden Dawn in the pre-Fyssas days was smashing immigrant black market stands, their popularity soared, and Greece was not raped yet. Now they're going to get raped.
Perhaps Golden Dawn will be influencing other movements, but the Greeks I know have no chance of being converted. They're your metro-faggot type of Greek, same with the Italians. There's something up with the Meds. Greece will have to go through a serious cleansing to save their nation, I can see that country breaking apart before they save it as a whole.
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Post by Babylon Enigma on Oct 3, 2015 22:28:20 GMT -5
This shallowness Pyrros calls Greko-Albanian. It is really shallow pride based mostly on hype. They're not going to improve on that trust me. But to be realistic no group likes to be brushed aside. Less intelligent groups are more instinct than reason. What's lacking in the west(more like shut off the mainstream) is politics of instinct. Golden Dawn provides that. If Golden Dawn has momentum again you'll see the Greeks rally behind them, because no one wants to be brushed out of existence. Remember when Golden Dawn in the pre-Fyssas days was smashing immigrant black market stands, their popularity soared, and Greece was not raped yet. Now they're going to get raped.
Perhaps Golden Dawn will be influencing other movements, but the Greeks I know have no chance of being converted. They're your metro-f*ggot type of Greek, same with the Italians. There's something up with the Meds. Greece will have to go through a serious cleansing to save their nation, I can see that country breaking apart before they save it as a whole.
Are these diaspora Greeks? They don't matter.
Imagine 8-12 years from now, let's say they're not in power but they have 22-32% of the vote and some mayors in some towns and cities. One third of Greece has become turd world colonized, Greeks have been taxed into slavery and the subhumans are committing all sort of crime. If there is no GD I can see the policemen continue to serve the system in very questionable circumstances. But if there is a political party that wants to protect its people from the legal attacks of the puppet state and the murderous attacks of turd world invaders, many army and police units would defect to GD. Greece would have proper conditions to rebel and at least fight. There needs to be an organization which people can gravitate to and channel the awakening mass.
Other nationalists need to learn from Golden Dawn and try to use their method to get their foot in the door. GD as I understand did this by forming petrol groups in working class Athenian neighborhoods that were hard-hit by immigration and restored normal conditions by making neighborhoods safe again. This can be replicated in Spain and Italy and even Sweden. Germany, most likely not, because Germany is a dictatorship.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2015 8:25:27 GMT -5
Too bad. They should take no place!!!!!
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Post by rex362 on May 13, 2016 10:41:35 GMT -5
Some Greek deputy blows up at a EU parliment meeting of sorts at the mention of Turkish minority within Greece AHAHHAHHAHAHAH -Actually there are way over 50,000 within Greece mostly in the Xanthi area actually the greek golden dawn dude and his entourage that leave the meeting at the end are more turk looking than turks themselves .....watch en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_of_Western_Thrace
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Post by leandros nikon on Sept 3, 2016 17:23:51 GMT -5
i will not bother to read all this but as it concerns golden dawn/chrisi avgi i just have one thing to say.... Before the crisis,it's power was too small,insignificant.They didnt have a single member at the parliament.Now,they are the third strongest political party in Greece.People give their vote to golden dawn because of anger and frustration.That's all. Are there any countries out there where nationalistic parties are strong but dont experience any serious economic/social crisis?That should be your concern!
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Post by marlene on Oct 24, 2016 3:24:47 GMT -5
I didn't know yet that this is such a huge problem in Greece as well. Even if it's due to the frustration over the refugee crisis, I can't understand why people don't consider the topic more differentiated. Voting a right party won't solve the crisis, that's for sure.
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