Filizof
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Post by Filizof on Feb 7, 2016 2:34:52 GMT -5
I was born in Montenegro and my grandpa always told me that he is 100% Montenegrin, but his brother could never make up his mind and changed his identity from Albanian to Montenegrin. My mum says that my grandpa is possibly Albanian in blood but is still Montenegrin somehow. I am in the middle of an identity crisis and I don't know how to identify myself. My dad says his grandparents always said how they were Albanian but were delusional but my mother says they are. My surname is Ljuljdjuraj, in case you're wondering. My dad's mother's surname is Besovic and my mum's surname is Jovanovic. Keep in mind we are not Lulgjurajs nor Ljuljdjurovic.
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Post by diurpaneus on Feb 11, 2016 17:04:50 GMT -5
I was born in Montenegro and my grandpa always told me that he is 100% Montenegrin, but his brother could never make up his mind and changed his identity from Albanian to Montenegrin. My mum says that my grandpa is possibly Albanian in blood but is still Montenegrin somehow. I am in the middle of an identity crisis and I don't know how to identify myself. My dad says his grandparents always said how they were Albanian but were delusional but my mother says they are. My surname is Ljuljdjuraj, in case you're wondering. My dad's mother's surname is Besovic and my mum's surname is Jovanovic. Keep in mind we are not Lulgjurajs nor Ljuljdjurovic. Dude I`m sorry to tell you... But you are Vlach. 100% Vlach. It would be better to embrace it and accept it. You are the offsping of roman colonists in the balkans. Rome is your mother and Thrace is your father.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Feb 20, 2016 7:17:15 GMT -5
I was born in Montenegro and my grandpa always told me that he is 100% Montenegrin, but his brother could never make up his mind and changed his identity from Albanian to Montenegrin. My mum says that my grandpa is possibly Albanian in blood but is still Montenegrin somehow. I am in the middle of an identity crisis and I don't know how to identify myself. My dad says his grandparents always said how they were Albanian but were delusional but my mother says they are. My surname is Ljuljdjuraj, in case you're wondering. My dad's mother's surname is Besovic and my mum's surname is Jovanovic. Keep in mind we are not Lulgjurajs nor Ljuljdjurovic. I believe it is 'Malisor' last name. Malisors are in my view are Catholic Albanophone Montenegrins. Many tribes from there are closely related to local nearby Montenegrin tribes whom they closely resemble culturally, genetically and anthropologically (while they greatly divert in such ways to Kosovars and even more so from Macedonian Albanians and Albanians from much of Albania (south of Drim river). Malisor inhibited areas: These areas have been under various local Serb influences for the past easily 1000 years and Skadar being their capital (Duklja, Zeta). Also this general area being the starting point of Serbian Nemonic dynasty (Ribnica near Podgorica being birthplace for Nemanja and Sveti Sava). Skadar area has been majority Serb populated until roughly 1700s when Turks manage to use Muslim Albanophones to linguistically assimilate locals and thus split them away from rest of Serbs. Montenegrins have always been regarded as purest and best of Serbs by their Petrovich rulers which now even genetic studies have confirmed by closely linking them to the Serb nobility that fought Turks in 1389 in Kosovo as Montenegrin historical tales also state. Njegos for instance is also very clear that Montenegrins are descendants from Serb nobility that settled these mountains after 1389 Kosovo battle against Asiatic invader. Lastly Malisors always historically had a special relationship with Montenegrins as King Nikola had Perjaniks or personal guard made I believe exclusively from Malesors. Same Malesors that fought tough and nail against Asiatics and many local Alpbanophone Ottomans whose descendants now call themselves Albanian (no doubt if Turkey was ever to re-Ottomonize itself and take Balkans they will turn Asiatic again in a heartbeat in my view). I also believe that Malisor can be derived as a variations of Montenegrin (Montenegro: Mali Zi) or, even more likelier, as Highlander as it currently means in Albanian (Highlander = Malodor). All he nearby Serb tribes in Montenegro are also called Brdjani which also means Highlander in Serbian and I doubt this is coincidence. In fact I am convinced that Malisori are nothing more then Albanophone Brdjani. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malesija,_Montenegro en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brda,_Montenegro You my friend are a 100% Montenegrin (ethnically as a Serb or just plain Montenegrin or both, your choice). PS: During Austrian occupation of Crna Gora during WW1 Crnogorci were prohibited from calling themselves as Serbs but only as Montenegrins and writing in native Cyrillic alphabet month other things. This was repeated by in WW2 by occupating Italian fascists. In both times this was rejected by the locals. Communists (whom have strongly huge array of similarities with Satanists!!) also came with almost identical views and implemented them gradually and far more successfully. West (probably Zionist/Illuminati/Jezuit controlled) had always been against Orthodoxy and Russia and as a result also against Serbs (seen as potential Russian allies) and had tendency to splinter Russians (thus there is now White Russians and Ukrainians) and Serbs (thus there is now also Montenegrins, Bosniaks, 'Macedonians' and many of not of of Stokavian speaking 'Croats')
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Filizof
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Post by Filizof on Feb 23, 2016 6:49:24 GMT -5
Yeah but my surname is just a Croation translation of an Albanian surname
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Post by jpd1994 on Sept 25, 2017 21:51:34 GMT -5
I have the same question as well as my surname is Dushaj (Dusevic during the time of Yugoslavia) and I know both my parents are from Montenegro. My father is from the Hoti Tribe and my Mom Gruda, although I know these tribes did have alliances with Montenegrin tribes as well. I'm sure that I do have slavic blood in me just not sure. I did take a dna test (ancestry) and genetic communities showed Southeastern European and South Slav. However confronting my parents about it they were saying we are only Albanian which seems highly unlikely.
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Post by kuqi0704 on Nov 12, 2017 18:53:12 GMT -5
Hi! I am New here and i will intorduce my self, and try to explain some Things about MALESORS. I am from Albanian side of Kuqi(Kuči) tribe by descent, and Hoti, Gruda and Kuči in Malesia are Albanian 100%, also as Drekalović brotherhood in Orthodox side of Kuči. Slavicized Albos are also Vasojevici, Bjelopavlici, Piperi and other "Brda" (Malesi) tribe, and there is story about 5 brothers, Vaso, Kraso, Pipo, Oto and Ozro (Vasojevici, Krasniqi, Piperi, Hoti and Ozrinici). Also, I heard that Bjelopavlici claim they are descedants of Leke Dukagjini, as Drekalovici claim they are descedants of Drekale Kastrioti, who was grandson of Skenderbeu. Greetings for all Illyrian and E1b Ev-13 brothers, one Slavicized Malesor loves you all:-) <3 And for topic creator, Lulgjuraj notable and honor family are from Gruda Malesor tribe and you are real Illyrian.
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Post by agjel on Apr 25, 2020 14:24:19 GMT -5
Ljuljdjuraj Is an albanian (Malsor) last name. It is the same as Lulgjuraj, Ljuljdjurovic, Luldurovic etc. the corrent way is Lulgjuraj. Your father or grandfather most likely left your village of Gruda to a more prodo predominantly slavic area which happened with some albanians of that region
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Post by crnogorac on Sept 21, 2020 15:58:30 GMT -5
Ljuljdjuraj Is an albanian (Malsor) last name. It is the same as Lulgjuraj, Ljuljdjurovic, Luldurovic etc. the corrent way is Lulgjuraj. Your father or grandfather most likely left your village of Gruda to a more prodo predominantly slavic area which happened with some albanians of that region Ljuljdjuraj or Ljuljdjurovici (as their relatives Duldurovici) descent from the Albanian Malisor tribe of Gruda, Ljuljdjuraj descent from Ban Gruda, and they entirely lived in the village of Gruda, but now can be also seen in Tuzi and Podgorica. By descent you're Albanian but you can identify yourself how you want, Bosniak, Montenegrin or Albanian, not a problem! National feeling is more important than ancestry.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 12:13:15 GMT -5
Ljuljdjuraj Is an albanian (Malsor) last name. It is the same as Lulgjuraj, Ljuljdjurovic, Luldurovic etc. the corrent way is Lulgjuraj. Your father or grandfather most likely left your village of Gruda to a more prodo predominantly slavic area which happened with some albanians of that region Ljuljdjuraj or Ljuljdjurovici (as their relatives Duldurovici) descent from the Albanian Malisor tribe of Gruda, Ljuljdjuraj descent from Ban Gruda, and they entirely lived in the village of Gruda, but now can be also seen in Tuzi and Podgorica. By descent you're Albanian but you can identify yourself how you want, Bosniak, Montenegrin or Albanian, not a problem! National feeling is more important than ancestry. Just please not as Serb. I think we don't need such people who can't decide what they are.
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