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Post by christotamarin on Dec 15, 2016 7:18:39 GMT -5
Hi everybody.
I have a question to the speakers of Albanian.
Long time ago, I have read somewhere that in Albanian there is a word, probably ska, coming from Greek σκλα̃βοι, which is used as a common name for both Serbs and Bulgarians.
Is that true?
Thanks.
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Post by rex362 on Dec 31, 2016 12:40:20 GMT -5
The words I believe you are asking about are Shka /Shki/shkije ..these today are used by Albanians to simply refer to Slavs. The Slav today takes these words as being derogatory towards them,but actually they are not derogatory at all ,but only derogatory bcs they dont know their own history before entering the Balkans. The shka/shki is Albanian/Illyrian word for SCYTHIANS ,the ancient Balkan word for them is that (which is the so called same ancient greek word) And it also proves that we use the same word as the ancients did gives us proof of Albanians being ancient upon our own lands as well and maybe that's why they also find it more derogatory to the maximum you can look up "Scythian" on google and see for yourself ...dont take my village mentality of thinking out of the box as fact
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Post by Sokol on Jan 1, 2017 23:45:09 GMT -5
I wonder is there a vlach word for slavs?
Why do Albanians find the word siptar insulting? It derives from the Albanian word for themselves.
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 6, 2018 10:56:06 GMT -5
The words I believe you are asking about are Shka /Shki/shkije ..these today are used by Albanians to simply refer to Slavs. Only used by Gheg albanians, you're a Tosk so you're not allowed to use it.
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Post by rex362 on Sept 6, 2018 13:53:59 GMT -5
tosk's us it as well
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 6, 2018 13:58:06 GMT -5
They are breaking rules Shkije or Shkje, is a term used in the Gheg dialect of Albanian language to refer to Serbs,
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Post by rex362 on Sept 6, 2018 14:00:28 GMT -5
term for all slavs in the Balkans
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 6, 2018 14:02:16 GMT -5
term for all slavs in the Balkans It's also used by Albanian people to refer to non alb speakers
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Post by rex362 on Sept 6, 2018 14:03:55 GMT -5
term for all slavs in the Balkans It's also used by Albanian people to refer to non alb speakers
nope ..we dont call greeks or Italians that
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 6, 2018 14:06:06 GMT -5
It's also used by Albanian people to refer to non alb speakers
nope ..we dont call greeks or Italians that
I meant albanian people in italy or greece.
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 6, 2018 14:06:58 GMT -5
Arshi Pipa - "Since « Shkla- vun » is the albanization of Venetian « Schiavone »,"
Gjergji Shuka - "Among Albanians of Greece, where our song originates, the word "shkla" is used to identify the Greek neighbors; among the Arbereshe of Italy - who frequently trace their origin to the today's western Greece - the words "shklan" and "shklerisht" mean: "who does not speak Arberisht" or "who speaks an incomprehensible language", referring, of course, to Latin language."
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Post by Pyrros on Sept 6, 2018 14:10:25 GMT -5
maybe because everything is Slavic.
Skla = Sklavinia
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Post by rex362 on Sept 6, 2018 14:12:30 GMT -5
I wonder is there a vlach word for slavs? Why do Albanians find the word siptar insulting? It derives from the Albanian word for themselves.
Vlachs use the word .....SHCLJEAU ....confer with Pyrros ,he might know
and then Siptar thing .....well we know the slavs can use the "sh" sound as in Shiptar /ship /shoes
but we know when they say it as Siptar and we assume they are using it as derogatory form of a "Thorn" of sorts
not sure what the exact slavic word or slang is though
whats a sip/sipke in slav ? that a word of sorts ?
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 6, 2018 14:14:32 GMT -5
I wonder is there a vlach word for slavs? Why do Albanians find the word siptar insulting? It derives from the Albanian word for themselves.
Vlachs use the word .....SHCLJEAU ....confer with Pyrros ,he might know
and then Siptar thing .....well we know the slavs can use the "sh" sound as in Shiptar /ship /shoes
but we know when they say it as Siptar and we assume they are using it as derogatory form of a "Thorn" of sorts
not sure what the exact slavic word or slang is though
whats a sip/sipke in slav ? that a word of sorts ?
sipka means bar
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Post by Pyrros on Sept 6, 2018 14:16:22 GMT -5
I wonder is there a vlach word for slavs? Why do Albanians find the word siptar insulting? It derives from the Albanian word for themselves.
Vlachs use the word .....SHCLJEAU ....confer with Pyrros ,he might know
and then Siptar thing .....well we know the slavs can use the "sh" sound as in Shiptar /ship /shoes
but we know when they say it as Siptar and we assume they are using it as derogatory form of a "Thorn" of sorts
not sure what the exact slavic word or slang is though
whats a sip/sipke in slav ? that a word of sorts ?
latin is a copy of Slavic.
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 6, 2018 14:17:03 GMT -5
Vlachs use the word .....SHCLJEAU ....confer with Pyrros ,he might know
and then Siptar thing .....well we know the slavs can use the "sh" sound as in Shiptar /ship /shoes
but we know when they say it as Siptar and we assume they are using it as derogatory form of a "Thorn" of sorts
not sure what the exact slavic word or slang is though
whats a sip/sipke in slav ? that a word of sorts ?
latin is a copy of Slavic.
the name venice is of slavic origin
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Post by rex362 on Sept 6, 2018 14:19:12 GMT -5
nope ..we dont call greeks or Italians that
I meant albanian people in italy or greece. albs in Italy .....Arberesh
albs in greece ...Arbanit / Arvanits b/v
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Post by branislavnusic on Sept 6, 2018 14:20:45 GMT -5
I meant albanian people in italy or greece. albs in Italy .....Arberesh
albs in greece ...Arbanit / Arvanits b/v
arvanites are greek, been discussed on this forum billion times
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Post by rex362 on Sept 6, 2018 14:21:31 GMT -5
Vlachs use the word .....SHCLJEAU ....confer with Pyrros ,he might know
and then Siptar thing .....well we know the slavs can use the "sh" sound as in Shiptar /ship /shoes
but we know when they say it as Siptar and we assume they are using it as derogatory form of a "Thorn" of sorts
not sure what the exact slavic word or slang is though
whats a sip/sipke in slav ? that a word of sorts ?
latin is a copy of Slavic.
Latin is what named the words used today as serbs and slavs
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Post by rex362 on Sept 6, 2018 14:22:24 GMT -5
albs in Italy .....Arberesh
albs in greece ...Arbanit / Arvanits b/v
arvanites are greek, been discussed on this forum billion times
as mush as I am American ....
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