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Post by rex362 on Jul 1, 2019 17:50:12 GMT -5
There was no migration only an illegal invasion of Shqiptars into Serbian Drach 1043AD! Rex, Albania was the creation of the Vatican. Now Albanian Ashik Pedo Culture and Papal Pedo Culture are synonymous, send your boy soldiers off to feed Malok. Tell the the readers of Catholic Albanian FAG brotherhood unions, Shqiptars are a class ahead of western-zio influenced Lib culture in same poo hole sex.
Novi ....Novi ..Novi was it not the Vatican that gave serbia officially its first time recognition as a kingdom ?
ahhahaha who created who
stuff it ( in your poo hole) ...you should be bowing to the Catholics /papacy
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Post by Duško on Jul 1, 2019 18:15:37 GMT -5
I see your still toting our Albanian icon ..bravo
yea... many of our neighbors crave that and are missing such legends
None of your neighbours crave anything Albanian beleive me lol.
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Post by Duško on Jul 1, 2019 18:28:45 GMT -5
....the Schism was happening and that's when we were transferring from being Illyrians into Albanians and even Vlachs
Survival tactics ....Going through Roman empire ,Byzantine and then later Ottoman .....we made it through
I 'm here ...
You can't find anything written about Albania, Albanians or the Albanian language prior to the 11th century. You're entire seafaring / nautical lexicon is borrowed from Latin and Slavic. That's extraordinary considering that the Illyrians were most famous for their ship making, pirating and voyages. There's zero transitional history from when the Illyrians went extinct to when the Albanians first popped up in the Balkans and we're talking over 700 years of blank history. That's because there is no transition, Albanians don't come from illyrians.
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Post by rex362 on Jul 1, 2019 18:38:19 GMT -5
again .......who got time for history printing presses when your being invaded by others
You have nothing written as well ....like I said first writing 900 ad only bcs of religion and strictly religious only 4 major
writings in your complete history and your 4 stefans might of not even of been slavic let alone serbian ..all vassals of papacy or Byzantines
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Post by rex362 on Jul 1, 2019 18:45:36 GMT -5
oh sorry I forgot about ancient serbian navy ....wtf
Latin yes ...proof we were there
hmmm Latin ? or is it the Albanian in Latin
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Post by Duško on Jul 1, 2019 18:53:17 GMT -5
again .......who got time for history printing presses when your being invaded by others
You have nothing written as well ....like I said first writing 900 ad only bcs of religion and strictly religious only 4 major
writings in your complete history and your 4 stefans might of not even of been slavic let alone serbian ..all vassals of papacy or Byzantines
You just proved my point, because no one in the region or out has ever mentioned these invasions you were supposedly fighting off. None of this is documented, you only assume so by imagination but this never happened. Again. You're entire naval lexicon is borrowed from Latin and Slavic, surely if you were illyrian you'd carry their vocabulary being that you're a sea coast nation... Or not.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 2, 2019 10:48:43 GMT -5
You can't find anything written about Albania, Albanians or the Albanian language prior to the 11th century. You forgot about the mountains
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Post by rex362 on Jul 2, 2019 11:54:56 GMT -5
serbian naval lexicon .....? AHAHHAAHHAAHAHAHAH again ...Latins had much colonization in coastal cities, so of course one would take up or borrow a word or two ..also shows that we as Albanians were there during that period ...so the Illyrian to Albanian continuation occurs .....heck today we use more ancient/homeric greek words than greeks themselves use today
a few sources for you .......
ane, anije , aní an 'vessel / ship-boat
DET - DETI 'sea' .....Tethys /ˈtiːθɪs, ˈtɛθɪs/ (Ancient Greek: Τηθύς),
lugate 'rudder'
DULFE.rudder, timon',
shul 'mast',
pehure 'sail',
vale 'wave'
mat 'beach'
va 'ford, anchorage'
albure 'mast '
anadet 'seashore'
andine 'yard' (of mast )
askath ,'kedge'
balli anijes ,'bow of ship'
bigje 'scale of fish'
brancin 'sea fish'
bruf deti ,'small white fish,flat sea fish '
bume 'brigantine sail' , boom
cekell deti 'spinach'
guhone 'oyster '
gjase 'anchorage,landing-stage '
kernall 'ocean '
kerp,dy-grep ,'anchor'
komtore' harbour'
lekue , lkue 'seeweed '
libohem ne '-aproach '
lic ,'small shark '
ngjale 'eel'
Peshk , 'fish'
lik-u i detit 'sea level '
lumpar 'oyster'
lunder 'boat ferry barge '
lunderthyeme 'shipwrecked'
lundrar,lundertar , ' sailor '
Lundroj , 'sail'
mlundroj 'embark '
mol 'pier '
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Post by rex362 on Jul 2, 2019 12:04:25 GMT -5
You can't find anything written about Albania, Albanians or the Albanian language prior to the 11th century. You forgot about the mountains
like the mountains that you have been hiding in lately ?
or the mountains of bs that our buddy pyrros spews ?
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Post by rex362 on Jul 2, 2019 12:16:50 GMT -5
Hey Kastrioti worshiper .....dushko
I can confuse you and stop you by simply asking you to find FACTS /Info on when and where Albanians came from ?
But you cant (unless its a bs web site- Novi approved ) ....so instead .....
....Some simple reading for you ........or just ignore and carry on with your typical kitchen table propaganda. I have been here on this forum for over 20 years , heck maybe 25 and what you spew is not new to me ... believe me /I can go on for days and post items for your pleasure but best you use the search here and make
some popcorn ...so I leave you with something simple not written by a slav ,Albanian, greek or turk
Mystery enshrouds the exact origins of today's Albanians. Most historians of the Balkans believe the Albanian people are in large part descendants of the ancient Illyrians, who, like other Balkan peoples, were subdivided into tribes and clans. The name Albania is derived from the name of an Illyrian tribe called the Arber, or Arbereshë, and later Albanoi, that lived near Durrës. The Illyrians were Indo-European tribesmen who appeared in the western part of the Balkan Peninsula about 1000 B.C., a period coinciding with the end of the Bronze Age and beginning of the Iron Age. They inhabited much of the area for at least the next millennium. Archaeologists associate the Illyrians with the Hallstatt culture, an Iron Age people noted for production of iron and bronze swords with winged-shaped handles and for domestication of horses. The Illyrians occupied lands extending from the Danube, Sava, and Morava rivers to the Adriatic Sea and the Sar Mountains. At various times, groups of Illyrians migrated over land and sea into Italy. The Illyrians carried on commerce and warfare with their neighbors. The ancient Macedonians probably had some Illyrian roots, but their ruling class adopted Greek cultural characteristics. The Illyrians also mingled with the Thracians, another ancient people with adjoining lands on the east. In the south and along the Adriatic Sea coast, the Illyrians were heavily influenced by the Greeks, who founded trading colonies there. The present-day city of Durrës evolved from a Greek colony known as Epidamnos, which was founded at the end of the seventh century B.C. Another famous Greek colony, Apollonia, arose between Durrës and the port city of Vlorë.
The Illyrians produced and traded cattle, horses, agricultural goods, and wares fashioned from locally mined copper and iron. Feuds and warfare were constant facts of life for the Illyrian tribes, and Illyrian pirates plagued shipping on the Adriatic Sea. Councils of elders chose the chieftains who headed each of the numerous Illyrian tribes. From time to time, local chieftains extended their rule over other tribes and formed short-lived kingdoms. During the fifth century B.C., a well-developed Illyrian population center existed as far north as the upper Sava River valley in what is now Slovenia. Illyrian friezes discovered near the present-day Slovenian city of Ljubljana depict ritual sacrifices, feasts, battles, sporting events, and other activities.
The Illyrian kingdom of Bardhyllus became a formidable local power in the fourth century B.C. In 358 B.C., however, Macedonia's Philip II, father of Alexander the Great, defeated the Illyrians and assumed control of their territory as far as Lake Ohrid (see fig. 5). Alexander himself routed the forces of the Illyrian chieftain Clitus in 335 B.C., and Illyrian tribal leaders and soldiers accompanied Alexander on his conquest of Persia. After Alexander's death in 323 B.C., independent Illyrian kingdoms again arose. In 312 B.C., King Glaucius expelled the Greeks from Durrës. By the end of the third century, an Illyrian kingdom based near what is now the Albanian city of Shkodër controlled parts of northern Albania, Montenegro, and Hercegovina. Under Queen Teuta, Illyrians attacked Roman merchant vessels plying the Adriatic Sea and gave Rome an excuse to invade the Balkans.
In the Illyrian Wars of 229 and 219 B.C., Rome overran the Illyrian settlements in the Neretva River valley. The Romans made new gains in 168 B.C., and Roman forces captured Illyria's King Gentius at Shkodër, which they called Scodra, and brought him to Rome in 165 B.C. A century later, Julius Caesar and his rival Pompey fought their decisive battle near Durrës (Dyrrachium). Rome finally subjugated recalcitrant Illyrian tribes in the western Balkans [during the reign] of Emperor Tiberius in A.D. 9. The Romans divided the lands that make up present-day Albania among the provinces of Macedonia, Dalmatia, and Epirus.
For about four centuries, Roman rule brought the Illyrian-populated lands economic and cultural advancement and ended most of the enervating clashes among local tribes. The Illyrian mountain clansmen retained local authority but pledged allegiance to the emperor and acknowledged the authority of his envoys. During a yearly holiday honoring the Caesars, the Illyrian mountaineers swore loyalty to the emperor and reaffirmed their political rights. A form of this tradition, known as the kuvend, has survived to the present day in northern Albania.
The Romans established numerous military camps and colonies and completely latinized the coastal cities. They also oversaw the construction of aqueducts and roads, including the Via Egnatia, a famous military highway and trade route that led from Durrës through the Shkumbin River valley to Macedonia and Byzantium (later Constantinople)
Constantinople Originally a Greek city, Byzantium, it was made the capital of the Byzantine Empire by Constantine the Great and was soon renamed Constantinople in his honor. The city was captured by the Turks in 1453 and became the capital of the Ottoman Empire. The Turks called the city Istanbul, but most of the non-Muslim world knew it as Constantinople until about 1930. . Copper, asphalt, and silver were extracted from the mountains. The main exports were wine, cheese, oil, and fish from Lake Scutari and Lake Ohrid. Imports included tools, metalware, luxury goods, and other manufactured articles. Apollonia became a cultural center, and Julius Caesar himself sent his nephew, later the Emperor Augustus, to study there. Illyrians distinguished themselves as warriors in the Roman legions and made up a significant portion of the Praetorian Guard. Several of the Roman emperors were of Illyrian origin, including Diocletian (284-305), who saved the empire from disintegration by introducing institutional reforms, and Constantine the Great (324-37)--who accepted Christianity and transferred the empire's capital from Rome to Byzantium, which he called Constantinople. Emperor Justinian (527-65)--who codified Roman law, built the most famous Byzantine church, the Hagia Sofia, and reextended the empire's control over lost territories- -was probably also an Illyrian.
Christianity came to the Illyrian-populated lands in the first century A.D. Saint Paul wrote that he preached in the Roman province of Illyricum, and legend holds that he visited Durrës. When the Roman Empire was divided into eastern and western halves in A.D. 395, the lands that now make up Albania were administered by the Eastern Empire but were ecclesiastically dependent on Rome. In A.D. 732, however, a Byzantine emperor, Leo the Isaurian, subordinated the area to the patriarchate of Constantinople. For centuries thereafter, the Albanian lands became an arena for the ecclesiastical struggle between Rome and Constantinople. Most Albanians living in the mountainous north became Roman Catholic, while in the southern and central regions, the majority became Orthodox.
Source [for the Library of Congress]: Based on information from R. Ernest Dupuy and Trevor N. Dupuy, The Encyclopedia of Military History, New York, 1970, 95; Herman Kinder and Werner Hilgemann, The Anchor Atlas of World History, 1, New York, 1974, 90, 94; and Encyclopaedia Britannica, 15, New York, 1975, 1092.
Data as of April 1992 SOURCE: The Library of Congress - ALBANIA - A Country Study Image
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Post by branislavnusic on Jul 2, 2019 14:23:36 GMT -5
yes the roman emperors of illyrian descent became emperors because they were latinized
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 2, 2019 14:48:42 GMT -5
....the Schism was happening and that's when we were transferring from being Illyrians into Albanians and even Vlachs
Survival tactics ....Going through Roman empire ,Byzantine and then later Ottoman .....we made it through
I 'm here ...
You can't find anything written about Albania, Albanians or the Albanian language prior to the 11th century. You're entire seafaring / nautical lexicon is borrowed from Latin and Slavic. That's extraordinary considering that the Illyrians were most famous for their ship making, pirating and voyages. There's zero transitional history from when the Illyrians went extinct to when the Albanians first popped up in the Balkans and we're talking over 700 years of blank history. That's because there is no transition, Albanians don't come from illyrians.
Exactly. Moreover from the so called "Illyrian" language, only some 10-20 words are saved today and it takes really wild imagination to even find remotely connection with the modern albanian equivalent terms if any.
BUT WAIT!!! All those (~1000) years the proud sons of the eagles were surviving in the high mountains.. LMAO.
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 2, 2019 14:57:26 GMT -5
serbian naval lexicon .....? AHAHHAAHHAAHAHAHAH again ...Latins had much colonization in coastal cities, so of course one would take up or borrow a word or two ..also shows that we as Albanians were there during that period ...so the Illyrian to Albanian continuation occurs .....heck today we use more ancient/homeric greek words than greeks themselves use today
a few sources for you .......
ane, anije , aní an 'vessel / ship-boat
DET - DETI 'sea' .....Tethys /ˈtiːθɪs, ˈtɛθɪs/ (Ancient Greek: Τηθύς),
lugate 'rudder'
DULFE.rudder, timon',
shul 'mast',
pehure 'sail',
vale 'wave'
mat 'beach'
va 'ford, anchorage'
albure 'mast '
anadet 'seashore'
andine 'yard' (of mast )
askath ,'kedge'
balli anijes ,'bow of ship'
bigje 'scale of fish'
brancin 'sea fish'
bruf deti ,'small white fish,flat sea fish '
bume 'brigantine sail' , boom
cekell deti 'spinach'
guhone 'oyster '
gjase 'anchorage,landing-stage '
kernall 'ocean '
kerp,dy-grep ,'anchor'
komtore' harbour'
lekue , lkue 'seeweed '
libohem ne '-aproach '
lic ,'small shark '
ngjale 'eel'
Peshk , 'fish'
lik-u i detit 'sea level '
lumpar 'oyster'
lunder 'boat ferry barge '
lunderthyeme 'shipwrecked'
lundrar,lundertar , ' sailor '
Lundroj , 'sail'
mlundroj 'embark '
mol 'pier '
lol lots of fun here, where do I start??? DETI - tithis... LMAO
VAL = WAVE??? hmmmm Slavic again Rexho bro?? HAHAHAHAHAH
lets have a look at the rest of your joke ... hmmmmm ehmmm have you checked for any connections to your homeland , like Chechen or other langs from your home?
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Post by rex362 on Jul 2, 2019 16:04:05 GMT -5
wave in serbian .....is ?
we use val /valo also for boil / boiling water
btw .....what we call saw dust -talas/talash is what serbs call "wave "
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Post by papastratos on Jul 2, 2019 19:42:17 GMT -5
There are no Serbs in Greece
Today? Local slavophones in Greece are much closer to Serbs than Bulgarians or even Slavs from Northern Makedonia. Somewhere I heard that the last Serbs left Ipiros about 1700 AD.
There are approximately 6000. There are associated with North Macedonia rather than Serbia. They declare themselves as Macedonians.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jul 2, 2019 21:59:24 GMT -5
wave in serbian .....is ?
we use val /valo also for boil / boiling water
btw .....what we call saw dust -talas/talash is what serbs call "wave "
Val is also used in Serbian language for a wave. Especially in Croatia (which is essentially a more archaic form of Serbian in retrospect for most part).
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jul 2, 2019 22:11:03 GMT -5
....the Schism was happening and that's when we were transferring from being Illyrians into Albanians and even Vlachs
Survival tactics ....Going through Roman empire ,Byzantine and then later Ottoman .....we made it through
I 'm here ...
You can't find anything written about Albania, Albanians or the Albanian language prior to the 11th century. You're entire seafaring / nautical lexicon is borrowed from Latin and Slavic. That's extraordinary considering that the Illyrians were most famous for their ship making, pirating and voyages.There's zero transitional history from when the Illyrians went extinct to when the Albanians first popped up in the Balkans and we're talking over 700 years of blank history. That's because there is no transition, Albanians don't come from illyrians.
Fully correct about Illyrians or specifically Ardideans whose queen Teta went to war with Roman Republic over this very issue.
Now what is interesting and that connects to Illyrians in this aspect is bellow info!
now compare this to
Teuta's headquarters were in todays Risan in Boka which is just south of river Neretva.
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 3, 2019 2:56:43 GMT -5
Today? Local slavophones in Greece are much closer to Serbs than Bulgarians or even Slavs from Northern Makedonia. Somewhere I heard that the last Serbs left Ipiros about 1700 AD.
There are approximately 6000. There are associated with North Macedonia rather than Serbia. They declare themselves as Macedonians.
6000? this is the official voters of Ouranio Tokso. Not the real situation. Far from it.
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Post by Duško on Jul 5, 2019 22:03:55 GMT -5
Hey Kastrioti worshiper .....dushko
I can confuse you and stop you by simply asking you to find FACTS /Info on when and where Albanians came from ?
But you cant (unless its a bs web site- Novi approved ) ....so instead .....
....Some simple reading for you ........or just ignore and carry on with your typical kitchen table propaganda. I have been here on this forum for over 20 years , heck maybe 25 and what you spew is not new to me ... believe me /I can go on for days and post items for your pleasure but best you use the search here and make
some popcorn ...so I leave you with something simple not written by a slav ,Albanian, greek or turk
Mystery enshrouds the exact origins of today's Albanians. Most historians of the Balkans believe the Albanian people are in large part descendants of the ancient Illyrians, who, like other Balkan peoples, were subdivided into tribes and clans. The name Albania is derived from the name of an Illyrian tribe called the Arber, or Arbereshë, and later Albanoi, that lived near Durrës. The Illyrians were Indo-European tribesmen who appeared in the western part of the Balkan Peninsula about 1000 B.C., a period coinciding with the end of the Bronze Age and beginning of the Iron Age. They inhabited much of the area for at least the next millennium. Archaeologists associate the Illyrians with the Hallstatt culture, an Iron Age people noted for production of iron and bronze swords with winged-shaped handles and for domestication of horses. The Illyrians occupied lands extending from the Danube, Sava, and Morava rivers to the Adriatic Sea and the Sar Mountains. At various times, groups of Illyrians migrated over land and sea into Italy. The Illyrians carried on commerce and warfare with their neighbors. The ancient Macedonians probably had some Illyrian roots, but their ruling class adopted Greek cultural characteristics. The Illyrians also mingled with the Thracians, another ancient people with adjoining lands on the east. In the south and along the Adriatic Sea coast, the Illyrians were heavily influenced by the Greeks, who founded trading colonies there. The present-day city of Durrës evolved from a Greek colony known as Epidamnos, which was founded at the end of the seventh century B.C. Another famous Greek colony, Apollonia, arose between Durrës and the port city of Vlorë.
The Illyrians produced and traded cattle, horses, agricultural goods, and wares fashioned from locally mined copper and iron. Feuds and warfare were constant facts of life for the Illyrian tribes, and Illyrian pirates plagued shipping on the Adriatic Sea. Councils of elders chose the chieftains who headed each of the numerous Illyrian tribes. From time to time, local chieftains extended their rule over other tribes and formed short-lived kingdoms. During the fifth century B.C., a well-developed Illyrian population center existed as far north as the upper Sava River valley in what is now Slovenia. Illyrian friezes discovered near the present-day Slovenian city of Ljubljana depict ritual sacrifices, feasts, battles, sporting events, and other activities.
The Illyrian kingdom of Bardhyllus became a formidable local power in the fourth century B.C. In 358 B.C., however, Macedonia's Philip II, father of Alexander the Great, defeated the Illyrians and assumed control of their territory as far as Lake Ohrid (see fig. 5). Alexander himself routed the forces of the Illyrian chieftain Clitus in 335 B.C., and Illyrian tribal leaders and soldiers accompanied Alexander on his conquest of Persia. After Alexander's death in 323 B.C., independent Illyrian kingdoms again arose. In 312 B.C., King Glaucius expelled the Greeks from Durrës. By the end of the third century, an Illyrian kingdom based near what is now the Albanian city of Shkodër controlled parts of northern Albania, Montenegro, and Hercegovina. Under Queen Teuta, Illyrians attacked Roman merchant vessels plying the Adriatic Sea and gave Rome an excuse to invade the Balkans.
In the Illyrian Wars of 229 and 219 B.C., Rome overran the Illyrian settlements in the Neretva River valley. The Romans made new gains in 168 B.C., and Roman forces captured Illyria's King Gentius at Shkodër, which they called Scodra, and brought him to Rome in 165 B.C. A century later, Julius Caesar and his rival Pompey fought their decisive battle near Durrës (Dyrrachium). Rome finally subjugated recalcitrant Illyrian tribes in the western Balkans [during the reign] of Emperor Tiberius in A.D. 9. The Romans divided the lands that make up present-day Albania among the provinces of Macedonia, Dalmatia, and Epirus.
For about four centuries, Roman rule brought the Illyrian-populated lands economic and cultural advancement and ended most of the enervating clashes among local tribes. The Illyrian mountain clansmen retained local authority but pledged allegiance to the emperor and acknowledged the authority of his envoys. During a yearly holiday honoring the Caesars, the Illyrian mountaineers swore loyalty to the emperor and reaffirmed their political rights. A form of this tradition, known as the kuvend, has survived to the present day in northern Albania.
The Romans established numerous military camps and colonies and completely latinized the coastal cities. They also oversaw the construction of aqueducts and roads, including the Via Egnatia, a famous military highway and trade route that led from Durrës through the Shkumbin River valley to Macedonia and Byzantium (later Constantinople)
Constantinople Originally a Greek city, Byzantium, it was made the capital of the Byzantine Empire by Constantine the Great and was soon renamed Constantinople in his honor. The city was captured by the Turks in 1453 and became the capital of the Ottoman Empire. The Turks called the city Istanbul, but most of the non-Muslim world knew it as Constantinople until about 1930. . Copper, asphalt, and silver were extracted from the mountains. The main exports were wine, cheese, oil, and fish from Lake Scutari and Lake Ohrid. Imports included tools, metalware, luxury goods, and other manufactured articles. Apollonia became a cultural center, and Julius Caesar himself sent his nephew, later the Emperor Augustus, to study there. Illyrians distinguished themselves as warriors in the Roman legions and made up a significant portion of the Praetorian Guard. Several of the Roman emperors were of Illyrian origin, including Diocletian (284-305), who saved the empire from disintegration by introducing institutional reforms, and Constantine the Great (324-37)--who accepted Christianity and transferred the empire's capital from Rome to Byzantium, which he called Constantinople. Emperor Justinian (527-65)--who codified Roman law, built the most famous Byzantine church, the Hagia Sofia, and reextended the empire's control over lost territories- -was probably also an Illyrian.
Christianity came to the Illyrian-populated lands in the first century A.D. Saint Paul wrote that he preached in the Roman province of Illyricum, and legend holds that he visited Durrës. When the Roman Empire was divided into eastern and western halves in A.D. 395, the lands that now make up Albania were administered by the Eastern Empire but were ecclesiastically dependent on Rome. In A.D. 732, however, a Byzantine emperor, Leo the Isaurian, subordinated the area to the patriarchate of Constantinople. For centuries thereafter, the Albanian lands became an arena for the ecclesiastical struggle between Rome and Constantinople. Most Albanians living in the mountainous north became Roman Catholic, while in the southern and central regions, the majority became Orthodox.
Source [for the Library of Congress]: Based on information from R. Ernest Dupuy and Trevor N. Dupuy, The Encyclopedia of Military History, New York, 1970, 95; Herman Kinder and Werner Hilgemann, The Anchor Atlas of World History, 1, New York, 1974, 90, 94; and Encyclopaedia Britannica, 15, New York, 1975, 1092.
Data as of April 1992 SOURCE: The Library of Congress - ALBANIA - A Country Study Image
Fantastic introduction but the rest doesn't actually prove anything - your source is an observation /opinion. When a "historian" says albanians are descented from the Illyrians they're not citing any records confirming this, they're not referring to any evidence or hard proofs, it's only estimation. There's no proof Albanians existed in the Balkans prior to the 11th century.
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Post by Pyrros on Jul 9, 2019 3:21:25 GMT -5
"Be it known that the inhabitants of Castle Maina (Maniot Peninsula - in the Peloponnese) are not from the race of aforesaid Slavs (Melingoi and Ezeritai dwelling on the Taygetus) but from the older Romaioi, who up to the present time are termed Hellenes by the local inhabitants, on account of their being in olden times idolaters and worshippers of idols, like the ancient Greeks, and who were baptized and became Christians in the reign of the glorious Basil. The place in which they live is waterless and inaccessible, but has olives from which they gain some consolation."
The Sclaveni (Slavs) often settled in small groups (i.e., families and clans) and their demographic impact in Greece was both weak and diffuse.
The most interesting part is the huge overlap between the Albanian and pseudo-Greek narration. Can you pls share the source of the above idiocy ?
The Slavs of Greece could not get assimilated, they were driven away and slowly became a minority just like it happens today in Kosovo or in the past 100 years in the south part of Makedonia. For this to happens the Romans : - brought huge number of Vlahs from Asia - brought huge number or Albanians from Asia - brought large number of Greeks from south Italy, mostly in Morias.
It is true that the Greeks of Mani are the only true and old local Greeks. They collaborated nicely with the local Slavs.
All the others are newcomers.
About Slavs who came in small groups, and rest of lunacy, how do you explain the almost 5000 of Slavic toponyms in Greece pre-1900 ?
If SLavic impact was so low then the following events wouldn't have to happen :
- 1921-22 : completion of the project Makedonia. Makedonia get stuffed with Pontian greeks. Local Slavs become a minority - 1925 : Greeks switch to the whesto calendar, distancing from the balkans Slavs - 1926-1928 : the most intense campaign of placenames change that ever happened any where ... apparently some whesto bitches had serious traces to destroy
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