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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Apr 5, 2019 15:30:25 GMT -5
You guys need to see the trolleys attacking me.... lol
link please
(link to a particular place where you are 'interacting' with them)
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Post by Pyrros on Apr 6, 2019 1:40:20 GMT -5
friend of mine who went to cuba said it was ultra decent.
about serbs being stupid, i dunno maybe the most stupid look those who get paid to act as such.... Which is exactly the same case with Greeks-Albs...
we are paid to be stupid...
But just imagine how even better it would be without the revolutionaries that halted their development for a couple of decades.
Neither Serbs, nor Greeks, nor Albanians are paid to be stupid. They are what they are. Orthodox Christians can't handle changes, can't adapt and benefit from such processes. There are not a lot of pragmatic Orthodox Christians. My classification would be like (top are more pragmatic, bottom are less pragmatic): 1) Bulgarians 2) Romanians 3) Greeks 4) Belarussians
5) Macedonians 6) Montenegrins
7) Russians 8) Serbs 9) Ukrainians,
but still way behind most of other more pragmatic nations. Only nations less pragmatic are most of Muslims nations (including all Balkan Muslims) and entire Africa.
you are sailing into anti-human self loathing territories here, I hope you see that. I don't agree in one word from what you wrote.
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Post by Pyrros on Apr 6, 2019 1:45:11 GMT -5
You guys need to see the trolleys attacking me.... lol
link please
(link to a particular place where you are 'interacting' with them)
I cannot do that, cause one could easily track me down. I am already under severe hunt by the anti-slav demons of destruction. I could not keep my mouth shut till june as I had promised and now I face the consequences.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 2:25:06 GMT -5
But just imagine how even better it would be without the revolutionaries that halted their development for a couple of decades.
Neither Serbs, nor Greeks, nor Albanians are paid to be stupid. They are what they are. Orthodox Christians can't handle changes, can't adapt and benefit from such processes. There are not a lot of pragmatic Orthodox Christians. My classification would be like (top are more pragmatic, bottom are less pragmatic): 1) Bulgarians 2) Romanians 3) Greeks 4) Belarussians
5) Macedonians 6) Montenegrins
7) Russians 8) Serbs 9) Ukrainians,
but still way behind most of other more pragmatic nations. Only nations less pragmatic are most of Muslims nations (including all Balkan Muslims) and entire Africa.
you are sailing into anti-human self loathing territories here, I hope you see that. I don't agree in one word from what you wrote.
No, I don't see. Explain it more.
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Post by Pyrros on Apr 6, 2019 2:33:18 GMT -5
Till june i keep my mouth shut.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 4:46:03 GMT -5
As you wish.
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Post by Duško on Apr 6, 2019 19:56:28 GMT -5
Roman Catholics accepted a lot of Roman pagan customs in the church tradition too. The point is most Orthodox Churches haven't reformed for 2000 years, but Roman Catholics did. The fact that Orthodox Churches have not reformed is one of the reasons why the latin church is considered heritic, latins never use the term "heritic" when describing the Orthodox church instead use "schismatics" as the orthodox church maintains the laws and customs of the church before the great schism The moment you break from fundamentals which is what the West did you are no longer following the True faith, as how the Orthodox saw it. On the same note, those belonging to the Serbian orthodox church must be careful not to mix actual Christianity with ancestral worship which is what many do.
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Post by Duško on Apr 6, 2019 20:03:49 GMT -5
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Post by branislavnusic on Apr 7, 2019 1:53:37 GMT -5
The fact that Orthodox Churches have not reformed is one of the reasons why the latin church is considered heritic, latins never use the term "heritic" when describing the Orthodox church instead use "schismatics" as the orthodox church maintains the laws and customs of the church before the great schism The moment you break from fundamentals which is what the West did you are no longer following the True faith, as how the Orthodox saw it. On the same note, those belonging to the Serbian orthodox church must be careful not to mix actual Christianity with ancestral worship which is what many do. The Slavs put parts of their ancient paganism into their worship as each nation had their own church, something which was not possible in the latin church.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 5:05:21 GMT -5
The moment you break from fundamentals which is what the West did you are no longer following the True faith, as how the Orthodox saw it. On the same note, those belonging to the Serbian orthodox church must be careful not to mix actual Christianity with ancestral worship which is what many do. The Slavs put parts of their ancient paganism into their worship as each nation had their own church, something which was not possible in the latin church. The role of church as institution is twofold. First is to give you set of morals and ethic code so you can introduce norms of behavior and distinct what is right and what is wrong. This is important for every individual, but even more so for the government (or it was rather in the past, today no secular country cares for this which is why Christian countries are falling into decay). Second is to provide a spirituality, say promise of an afterlife to the people, because every sane individual is scared of death. Those two things combined alongside with language can set the ground for creating a nation - people with same morals and same language tend to think they belong to the same nation, even if they don't genetically look the same. All of this is great if the person is uncivilized or/and stupid (which most in the Balkans are) because taught morality is better than no morality. But for everyone who don't fall into these three categories - uncivilized, stupid or mixture of both - having your own twist on philosophy (be it classical, victorian era or anything up to mid 20th century, just not modern 21st b/s) is important. Therefore, by inheriting paganism original teachings of the church lost its core meaning, because it allowed savage (pagan) traditions to survive.
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Post by branislavnusic on Apr 7, 2019 6:27:20 GMT -5
The Slavs put parts of their ancient paganism into their worship as each nation had their own church, something which was not possible in the latin church. The role of church as institution is twofold. First is to give you set of morals and ethic code so you can introduce norms of behavior and distinct what is right and what is wrong. This is important for every individual, but even more so for the government (or it was rather in the past, today no secular country cares for this which is why Christian countries are falling into decay). Second is to provide a spirituality, say promise of an afterlife to the people, because every sane individual is scared of death. Those two things combined alongside with language can set the ground for creating a nation - people with same morals and same language tend to think they belong to the same nation, even if they don't genetically look the same. All of this is great if the person is uncivilized or/and stupid (which most in the Balkans are) because taught morality is better than no morality. But for everyone who don't fall into these three categories - uncivilized, stupid or mixture of both - having your own twist on philosophy (be it classical, victorian era or anything up to mid 20th century, just not modern 21st b/s) is important. Therefore, by inheriting paganism original teachings of the church lost its core meaning, because it allowed savage (pagan) traditions to survive. OK fine, but each nation which gained their own church could put their own laws and customs into the institutions, if each nation had the same church organization wouldn't Russians be the Same as Ethiopians, Serbs same as Armenians etc..??
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 8:14:56 GMT -5
The role of church as institution is twofold. First is to give you set of morals and ethic code so you can introduce norms of behavior and distinct what is right and what is wrong. This is important for every individual, but even more so for the government (or it was rather in the past, today no secular country cares for this which is why Christian countries are falling into decay). Second is to provide a spirituality, say promise of an afterlife to the people, because every sane individual is scared of death. Those two things combined alongside with language can set the ground for creating a nation - people with same morals and same language tend to think they belong to the same nation, even if they don't genetically look the same. All of this is great if the person is uncivilized or/and stupid (which most in the Balkans are) because taught morality is better than no morality. But for everyone who don't fall into these three categories - uncivilized, stupid or mixture of both - having your own twist on philosophy (be it classical, victorian era or anything up to mid 20th century, just not modern 21st b/s) is important. Therefore, by inheriting paganism original teachings of the church lost its core meaning, because it allowed savage (pagan) traditions to survive. OK fine, but each nation which gained their own church could put their own laws and customs into the institutions, if each nation had the same church organization wouldn't Russians be the Same as Ethiopians, Serbs same as Armenians etc..?? I suggest you to draw your own conclusion. I certainly had drawn my own.
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Post by Duško on Apr 7, 2019 9:36:47 GMT -5
The moment you break from fundamentals which is what the West did you are no longer following the True faith, as how the Orthodox saw it. On the same note, those belonging to the Serbian orthodox church must be careful not to mix actual Christianity with ancestral worship which is what many do. The Slavs put parts of their ancient paganism into their worship as each nation had their own church, something which was not possible in the latin church. There are two types of traditions that the church follows. Tradition with a capital "T", which is Church apostolic tradition (which can never change) and tradition with a lower-case "t" which is cultural tradition (more flexible). Tradition with a capital T is what always must remain in focus, my critique has to do with how many focus more on tradition with a lower-case t. The Armenian and Ethiopian orthodox are not in communion with us, just like how Coptics and other oriental orthodox sects aren't either. We differ on Tradition (capital T = apostolic tradition). While we remain different on traditions (lower-case t =cultural) such as with the Russians, Greeks and Antiochian (all of which we're in communion with) , we remain as one undivided church because the laws of Tradition are to remain unchanged.
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Post by branislavnusic on Apr 7, 2019 10:18:32 GMT -5
While we remain different on traditions (lower-case t =cultural) such as with the Russians, Greeks and Antiochian (all of which we're in communion with) , we remain as one undivided church because the laws of Tradition are to remain unchanged. There are different liturgies and saints for each church though which suit the needs of the people who are members of the church ie: In Serbia people like Stefan Lazarevic and Milos Obilic are saints whereas in Greece or Russia they are not
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Post by Duško on Apr 7, 2019 10:31:17 GMT -5
While we remain different on traditions (lower-case t =cultural) such as with the Russians, Greeks and Antiochian (all of which we're in communion with) , we remain as one undivided church because the laws of Tradition are to remain unchanged. There are different liturgies and saints for each church though which suit the needs of the people who are members of the church ie: In Serbia people like Stefan Lazarevic and Milos Obilic are saints whereas in Greece or Russia they are not Greeks, Russians and Antiochians all have their national Saints and the liturgies are identical to ours.
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Post by branislavnusic on Apr 7, 2019 10:41:27 GMT -5
Greeks, Russians and Antiochians all have their national Saints Exactly, that's my point!!!
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Post by rex362 on Apr 11, 2019 17:40:54 GMT -5
You get banned everywhere....
I am starting to think he got banned out of his own town in greece ....jeeez they throw you out of the
village and no other village will except you .....oh well there is always serbia
ps ...maybe those 30 some emails I sent out a few years ago to most serb/slavic forums warning
them about this slav imposter paid off .
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Post by Pyrros on Apr 12, 2019 1:31:17 GMT -5
rexho the correct verb is "accept" not "except", if you learned how to speak maybe you'd have better chances in your endeavors? Oh well, but then you wouldn't be "original" "alb" lol.
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Post by rex362 on Apr 18, 2019 16:59:23 GMT -5
ok gramer polise ....
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Post by Pyrros on Apr 19, 2019 11:40:19 GMT -5
Arghhhh don't you miss the old times when Albs failed only in Serbian and Alb? Now they have to also fail in many more languages.
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