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Post by Kassandros on May 26, 2008 10:38:51 GMT -5
Desire "As for marrying yes Muslims have more freedom to marry others compared to certain religious groups." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think Muslims allow men to get married to "gavour" women as far as the kids will turn to Muslims and finally she too. Women Muslims are not "allowed socially" to mary "infidel" men. That is what I know is accepted in the Turkish society.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 26, 2008 12:38:03 GMT -5
My sisters getting married to a catholic Portuguese guy this year..... so much for that theory...
Its nothing to do with being Turkish.
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Post by Kanaris on May 26, 2008 12:42:07 GMT -5
Probably, your sister is having the guy convert to Muslim.
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Post by Toskaliku on May 26, 2008 12:53:11 GMT -5
Then your sister isnt following proper customs.
On a different note, a very pretty Lebanese girl I know is getting married to a Greek guy who is converting to Islam for her and, from what she told me, is actually becoming a practicing one... Its an interesting phenomenon here that Greek men are getting attracted to Middle Eastern chicks.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 26, 2008 12:57:33 GMT -5
Nope he isn't going to convert. Lolmy cousins wife is orthodox christian my uncles married to a half serb half croat etc etc etc
nobody forces n e body to anythıng
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Post by Kanaris on May 26, 2008 13:08:32 GMT -5
So..D...there's a chance we can make you Orthodox.... ? ;D You never know..you could be going back to your original roots...
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 26, 2008 13:11:31 GMT -5
Please don't dictate my customs to me. Turkish customs don't say u cannot marry non Turks...
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 26, 2008 13:12:56 GMT -5
Kanaris... I just learned about Islam doubt il turn to any other religion. plus if u look at the sex n religion topic in the albanian forum u will see why
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Post by Kassandros on May 26, 2008 14:02:16 GMT -5
Desire "My sisters getting married to a catholic Portuguese guy this year..... so much for that theory..." -------------------------------------------------------------- ok... but as I've told you before... you're not the typical Turkish member of the Turkish society. London years and attitude cant be forgotten easily.. Lets say.. you have cevlar to Turkish society and customs.. What I said isnt true about the customs of the ordinary people of Turkey? I really want to know.
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on May 26, 2008 15:40:17 GMT -5
Hey terroreign you're just an antichrist and pro serb dumbass .
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Post by jerryspringer on May 26, 2008 15:56:44 GMT -5
Please don't dictate my customs to me. Turkish customs don't say u cannot marry non Turks... No one mentioned Turkish customs. We said Islam.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 26, 2008 17:40:53 GMT -5
Anittas read up - Turkish customs were mentioned. which is why I mentioned it.
As for basilmacedon. Look in Turkey all my dads family is here. One cousin is married to an english (christian guy) One cousin married to a Russian orthodox girl One of my cousin lived with her bf for 6 years before getting married to him etc... U know jack about turkish customs - have u actually been to Turkey? or just met some southeastern or black sea villagers?
Im from a modern family not the covered up wierdo Turks u think u know n dont even get me started on my mums family
Greeks are more religious than Turks thats why u find it strange prolly
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Post by Kanaris on May 26, 2008 18:24:10 GMT -5
Desire, as much as I would like to believe you I will remain skeptical when it comes to Turkey and it's people with regard to customs.
It seems every time we hear a horror story coming out of Turkey, someone always blames it on the Kurds who have been living side by side with Turks for the last millennia.Maybe there are a few 'loose' Turks... but very few and in between..which is by no means a negative aspect of Turkish society.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 26, 2008 18:41:39 GMT -5
Loose?
All the Turks I meet here hate the AKP and the SE people. for their backwards lifestyles another example: My boss is 46 and has been living with her bf for 7 years.
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on May 26, 2008 19:01:44 GMT -5
:)Hey Kanaris, I dont think that you and greeks have anything seriously against Turks and Turkey. Sultan and ottomans are those that protected albania and greece from romac vandal-invaders and balanched east with west European countries. Albanians with Greeks and Turks are mixed altogether people. Kanaris is my Brother from Bursa ! Cheers!!
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Post by jerryspringer on May 26, 2008 23:02:55 GMT -5
I don't know what others have said, but when I said that women are not allowed to marry men, I meant within Islam. I said nothing about Turkish customs. Ask your terrorist friend if women are permitted to marry non-muslim men.
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Post by depletedreasons on May 27, 2008 0:53:20 GMT -5
It is not convenient for a Turkish Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim man.
There is no legal obstacle preventing people getting married, but the average Muslim Turks would not appreciate their daughters, sisters getting married to non-Muslims. That is due to the fact that Islam does not approve the marriage between a Muslim woman and a non-Muslim man.
That is the generally accepted custom, but exceptions are always possible.
Some families could be tolerant, but in most of the cases, average people living in Turkey do not see such marriages as appropriate.
Since Islam does not place such restrictions for marriage of man, it is no big deal for Turkish Muslim men to get married to non-Muslim women.
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Post by filomen on May 27, 2008 2:40:26 GMT -5
I think smb is wrong about, cose there are diferent social levels family that are more closed or more open, and in generally for example in albania the more closed family are those that have a poor standart live and mostly analfabet. so the religion is not so influent. Iv seen the same in italy, my girlfriend for example dont see a problem that im not catolic and alsou even I would be muslim for her wouldnt be problem, but wasnt the same for her grandma that wasnt agree cose my religion isnt catolic, today we have good relation.
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Post by jerryspringer on May 27, 2008 9:20:03 GMT -5
Thank you for confirming m.y as.sertation, Jenny.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on May 27, 2008 9:27:22 GMT -5
Islam doesn't approve?
The case of a Muslim woman marrying a non-Muslim man – besides that of prohibiting polytheist men for them – has not been directly covered in the Qur’an. One may hold the opinion that by permitting marriage between Muslim men and Jewish and Christian women, the Qur’an has also permitted marriage between Muslim women and Jewish and Christian men. While on the other hand, one may hold the opinion that by specifically mentioning the permission of marriage between Muslim men and Jewish and Christian women, the Qur’an has expressed its dislike for marriage between Christian or Jewish men with a Muslim woman.
I don't need to bold out my reply Anittas because I don't go by what others say. I actually KNOW what I'm talking about.
The only two things stated in the Kuran about marraige are:
1. Women from the people of the book, that is Jewish and Christian women are lawful (in marriage) for Muslim men (Al-Ma’idah 5: 5) ; and 2.
Polytheist (Mushriq) men and women are unlawful (in marriage) for Muslim men and women (Al-Baqarah 2: 221).
Nowhere does it say it is a sin for a muslim women to marry a non muslim man. I hate when people throw dumb opinions about stuff they lack education on. finito.
If the 'average' Turkish man doesn't like their daughters marrying non muslıms (any facts to back it up Janny?) Then thank God my dad is above average in that sense. Whats important is that there is love and respect for each other. Its not as if the average Muslim Turk goes to the mosque everyday and does his mecca visit, in fact they almost all drink alcohol.
I think that saying the average Muslim father doesn't want his daughters to marry someone they don't approve of- OF ANY RELIGION- is better put
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