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Mar 29, 2008 16:12:27 GMT -5
Post by zgembo on Mar 29, 2008 16:12:27 GMT -5
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Mar 29, 2008 16:55:03 GMT -5
Post by niquetamere on Mar 29, 2008 16:55:03 GMT -5
You're one unbelievably one-sided racist. Why didn't you show the response to that video that basically shows Christianity's in the same racist/extremist light as Islam was shown.
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Mar 29, 2008 17:01:15 GMT -5
Post by Novus Dis on Mar 29, 2008 17:01:15 GMT -5
You're one unbelievably one-sided racist. Why didn't you show the response to that video that basically shows Christianity's in the same racist/extremist light as Islam was shown. Are you telling me that Christian countries have public beheadings or imprison women that are not accompanied by men or stone women who are not dressed from head to toe? And, last time I checked, Islam wasn't a race so the title "racist" does not belong here.
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Mar 29, 2008 18:21:01 GMT -5
Post by zgembo on Mar 29, 2008 18:21:01 GMT -5
You're one unbelievably one-sided racist. Why didn't you show the response to that video that basically shows Christianity's in the same racist/extremist light as Islam was shown. And how do you know I am? Because I posted a clip that is generating all kinds of controversy and attention? This is a forum, we discuss things. S.hit everyone else is talking about is a good start. You should relax and stop getting all defensive about insulting Allah like all the other Muslim nutjobs. You are supposed to be an Euro-centric cosmopolitan Sarajlija. ;D
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Mar 29, 2008 18:23:31 GMT -5
Post by c0gnate on Mar 29, 2008 18:23:31 GMT -5
Take a look at this American perspective:
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Mar 29, 2008 18:31:47 GMT -5
Post by niquetamere on Mar 29, 2008 18:31:47 GMT -5
You're one unbelievably one-sided racist. Why didn't you show the response to that video that basically shows Christianity's in the same racist/extremist light as Islam was shown. Are you telling me that Christian countries have public beheadings or imprison women that are not accompanied by men or stone women who are not dressed from head to toe? And, last time I checked, Islam wasn't a race so the title "racist" does not belong here. Lets see. You're referencing how some countries run their society, chief. Not every Muslim oriented country is as backwards as you would like it to be. Last time I checked, it was the Christian Americans who were throwing rocks at the African/American children going to school back in the 60s, the same people who had separate schools for children. Much like how Serbs play the game in Bosnia, so you got that in common. How about the KKK, claiming to do Gods work? - Westboro Baptist Christian Church in America, they publicly picket funeral soldiers and shout 'thank god your son died', right in front of the poor parents, family and friends. Doesn't Christianity's preach common sense and respect? Apparently SOME Christians don't see it that way, the same way not all Muslims are the same. Try watching " Jesus Camp" yes there are people raising an " Army for Christ". Using the exact same tactics that terrorists use in the Middle East. There are numerous camps like the one shown in the "Bible Belt" in the USA. It was really hard to watch, but if you want the truth, there it is. This is how Christians raise young terrorists, just like some Muslims do. How about Lords Army in Uganda (Gods Army) - which has raped, tortured and maimed thousands in its desire for a pure Christian state. (Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), formed in 1987, is a rebel self-proclaimed Christian guerrilla army operating mainly in northern Uganda and parts of Sudan. The group is engaged in an armed rebellion against the Ugandan government in what is now one of Africa's longest-running conflicts. It is led by Joseph Kony, who proclaims himself the spokesperson of God and a spirit medium, primarily of the Christian Holy Spirit which the Acholi believe can represent itself in many manifestations. The group aim to establish a theocratic state based on the Ten Commandments and Acholi tradition. The LRA is accused of widespread human rights violations, including mutilation, torture, rape, the abduction of civilians, the use of child soldiers and a number of massacres.) How about The Lambs of Christ? Say what you want, its apparent this board is anti-Muslim, but regardless of everything, both Christians and Muslims have terrorist groups and they're both equally retarded.
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Mar 29, 2008 18:34:51 GMT -5
Post by nemapravdebreee on Mar 29, 2008 18:34:51 GMT -5
"I put no stock in religion. By the word religion I have seen the lunacy of every denomination performing the will of God. I've seen too much 'religion' in the eyes of too many murderers. What you do each day you will be a good man - or not."
Excellent quote from an excellent movie.
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Mar 29, 2008 18:36:37 GMT -5
Post by niquetamere on Mar 29, 2008 18:36:37 GMT -5
"I put no stock in religion. By the word religion I have seen the lunacy of every denomination. I've seen too much 'religion' in the eyes of too many murderers. What you do each day you will be a good man - or not." Excellent quote from an excellent movie. I agree with you, I just find solid hypocrisy in some Christians that cant wait to jump on the Anti-Islam train while choosing to ignore what Christian Terrorists are doing. Why is that when the Christian Priest-Boy Sex Scandal happened, the pope didn't fire the rapist priests, but rather gave them pension for life?
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Mar 29, 2008 18:49:48 GMT -5
Post by Novus Dis on Mar 29, 2008 18:49:48 GMT -5
Lets see. You're referencing how some countries run their society, chief. Not every Muslim oriented country is as backwards as you would like it to be. Last time I checked, it was the Christian Americans who were throwing rocks at the African/American children going to school back in the 60s, the same people who had separate schools for children. Much like how Serbs play the game in Bosnia, so you got that in common. How about the KKK, claiming to do Gods work? - Westboro Baptist Christian Church in America, they publicly picket funeral soldiers and shout 'thank god your son died', right in front of the poor parents, family and friends. Doesn't Christianity's preach common sense and respect? Apparently SOME Christians don't see it that way, the same way not all Muslims are the same. Try watching " Jesus Camp" yes there are people raising an " Army for Christ". Using the exact same tactics that terrorists use in the Middle East. There are numerous camps like the one shown in the "Bible Belt" in the USA. It was really hard to watch, but if you want the truth, there it is. This is how Christians raise young terrorists, just like some Muslims do. How about Lords Army in Uganda (Gods Army) - which has raped, tortured and maimed thousands in its desire for a pure Christian state. (Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), formed in 1987, is a rebel self-proclaimed Christian guerrilla army operating mainly in northern Uganda and parts of Sudan. The group is engaged in an armed rebellion against the Ugandan government in what is now one of Africa's longest-running conflicts. It is led by Joseph Kony, who proclaims himself the spokesperson of God and a spirit medium, primarily of the Christian Holy Spirit which the Acholi believe can represent itself in many manifestations. The group aim to establish a theocratic state based on the Ten Commandments and Acholi tradition. The LRA is accused of widespread human rights violations, including mutilation, torture, rape, the abduction of civilians, the use of child soldiers and a number of massacres.) How about The Lambs of Christ? Say what you want, its apparent this board is anti-Muslim, but regardless of everything, both Christians and Muslims have terrorist groups and they're both equally retarded. The 3 groups (and their actions) you mentioned are shunned by mainstream Christian society in their selected countries. The things I mentioned are encouraged by mainstream Muslim societies in their selected countries.
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Mar 29, 2008 18:51:45 GMT -5
Post by zgembo on Mar 29, 2008 18:51:45 GMT -5
You're comparing and equating Muslims and Christian terrorism? Come on now, don't you wanna be treated seriously?
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Mar 29, 2008 19:03:27 GMT -5
Post by niquetamere on Mar 29, 2008 19:03:27 GMT -5
Lets see. You're referencing how some countries run their society, chief. Not every Muslim oriented country is as backwards as you would like it to be. Last time I checked, it was the Christian Americans who were throwing rocks at the African/American children going to school back in the 60s, the same people who had separate schools for children. Much like how Serbs play the game in Bosnia, so you got that in common. How about the KKK, claiming to do Gods work? - Westboro Baptist Christian Church in America, they publicly picket funeral soldiers and shout 'thank god your son died', right in front of the poor parents, family and friends. Doesn't Christianity's preach common sense and respect? Apparently SOME Christians don't see it that way, the same way not all Muslims are the same. Try watching " Jesus Camp" yes there are people raising an " Army for Christ". Using the exact same tactics that terrorists use in the Middle East. There are numerous camps like the one shown in the "Bible Belt" in the USA. It was really hard to watch, but if you want the truth, there it is. This is how Christians raise young terrorists, just like some Muslims do. How about Lords Army in Uganda (Gods Army) - which has raped, tortured and maimed thousands in its desire for a pure Christian state. (Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), formed in 1987, is a rebel self-proclaimed Christian guerrilla army operating mainly in northern Uganda and parts of Sudan. The group is engaged in an armed rebellion against the Ugandan government in what is now one of Africa's longest-running conflicts. It is led by Joseph Kony, who proclaims himself the spokesperson of God and a spirit medium, primarily of the Christian Holy Spirit which the Acholi believe can represent itself in many manifestations. The group aim to establish a theocratic state based on the Ten Commandments and Acholi tradition. The LRA is accused of widespread human rights violations, including mutilation, torture, rape, the abduction of civilians, the use of child soldiers and a number of massacres.) How about The Lambs of Christ? Say what you want, its apparent this board is anti-Muslim, but regardless of everything, both Christians and Muslims have terrorist groups and they're both equally retarded. The 3 groups (and their actions) you mentioned are shunned by mainstream Christian society in their selected countries. The things I mentioned are encouraged by mainstream Muslim societies in their selected countries. Um... come again? Muslims publicly denounce Terrorism. What the hell are you talking about. Osama Bin Ladin has been issued Fatwa's on numerous occasions for destroying the Muslim-Christian relations. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4628028.stmwww.google.com/search?aq=f&num=20&hl=en&safe=off&q=muslims+shun+terrorism&btnG=SearchOnce again you are talking about how SOME countries run their society. Not every Muslim country has extremist views. Turkey, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia, Tajikistan, Côte d'Ivoire, Burkina Faso, Bosnia, and numerous other countries with high Muslim populations denounce and shun terrorism and everything you have mentioned. If you did your research, you'd actually understand better but its crystal clear you're simply against anything Muslim.
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Mar 29, 2008 19:05:57 GMT -5
Post by Novi Pazar on Mar 29, 2008 19:05:57 GMT -5
We don't want an Al-Takeyya debate here!.
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Mar 29, 2008 19:05:58 GMT -5
Post by niquetamere on Mar 29, 2008 19:05:58 GMT -5
You're comparing and equating Muslims and Christian terrorism? Come on now, don't you wanna be treated seriously? ROFL hahaha, you're the one to talk? Get real. I love how you're twisting things around. I am comparing and equating the fact that both religions have terrorist and extremists. The WEIGHT of the measures is not all that important when the issue lies within religious people going the wrong way. Since you put it that way... don't Serbs use the same argument 'we all suffered in the war.. not just Muslim, we lost people too.. bla bla' Explain how you expect people to take you seriously and not think of you as a religious racist when you use the same argument when its to a Serbian benefit, but when its anti-Muslim, you're all over it. Pathetic.
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Mar 29, 2008 19:06:33 GMT -5
Post by radovic on Mar 29, 2008 19:06:33 GMT -5
^ Lol. And terrorism is a gorwing threat to each of the states you mentioned. Radical islam according to all reports is increasing in Turkey, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia, Tajikistan and Bosnia.
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Mar 29, 2008 19:06:51 GMT -5
Post by c0gnate on Mar 29, 2008 19:06:51 GMT -5
You're comparing and equating Muslims and Christian terrorism? Come on now, don't you wanna be treated seriously? What is terrorism? It's attacking an unarmed population --hoping to kill or hurt or destroy as much property as possible-- with the objective of intimidating or influencing their political leadership. Terrorism is a tactic, not an ideology. Everybody has used it from the beginning of recorded history. It is the tactic of choice of the weaker side of the conflict. Whereas the Western powers, including Israel, are bristling with weapons and huge trained armies, the Muslims are much more weakly armed, or organized or trained. That's why some of them resort to terrorism. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying individual terrorism is justified, but neither is dropping nukes on entire cities, or bombing the hell out of a country, or bulldozing whole cities into rubble.
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Mar 29, 2008 19:09:38 GMT -5
Post by Novus Dis on Mar 29, 2008 19:09:38 GMT -5
Um... come again? Muslims publicly denounce Terrorism. What the hell are you talking about. Osama Bin Ladin has been issued Fatwa's on numerous occasions for destroying the Muslim-Christian relations. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4628028.stmwww.google.com/search?aq=f&num=20&hl=en&safe=off&q=muslims+shun+terrorism&btnG=SearchOnce again you are talking about how SOME countries run their society. Not every Muslim country has extremist views. Turkey, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia, Tajikistan, Côte d'Ivoire, Burkina Faso, Bosnia, and numerous other countries with high Muslim populations denounce and shun terrorism and everything you have mentioned. If you did your research, you'd actually understand better but its crystal clear you're simply against anything Muslim. I never mentioned terrorism. Are you telling me that Christian countries have public beheadings or imprison women that are not accompanied by men or stone women who are not dressed from head to toe? Accusing me of being against "anything Muslim" is hypocritical.
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Mar 29, 2008 19:10:31 GMT -5
Post by radovic on Mar 29, 2008 19:10:31 GMT -5
^ Muslims resort to terrorism also because they view martyrdom as a great thing. During the 80s many Iranian youths volunteered to run accross minefields during the Iran-Iraq war to become martyrs. Almost every Palestinian terrorist has amrtyrdom as a goal.
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Mar 29, 2008 19:11:13 GMT -5
Post by niquetamere on Mar 29, 2008 19:11:13 GMT -5
^ Lol. And terrorism is a gorwing threat to each of the states you mentioned. Radical islam according to all reports is increasing in Turkey, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia, Tajikistan and Bosnia. 'According to reports' awesome. I love those, especially when everyone is on the Anti-Islam wagon. Which is quite normal, back in the 80s, every report showed how RUSSIANS are the new threat and its simply a turn for Islamic world right now. Sooner or later, the hate card will be passed to another nation/religious groups. To this day Americans think that Russians are their enemy. Just the other day when I was at a bank getting money out, a crazy white woman with a huge cross around her neck goes 'MAKE SURE THE RUSSIANS DONT SEE YOUR PIN NUMBER, THEY'RE ALL OVER AMERICA SPYING ON US WHILE WE ENTER OUR PIN NUMBERS IN THE COMPUTER SO THEY CAN STEAL OUR MONEY' Also, Christian Terrorism is on the rise in USA, watch JESUS Camp/Bible Camp and then get sick to your stomach how exactly the same christian terrorists are as muslims.
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Mar 29, 2008 19:14:33 GMT -5
Post by niquetamere on Mar 29, 2008 19:14:33 GMT -5
Um... come again? Muslims publicly denounce Terrorism. What the hell are you talking about. Osama Bin Ladin has been issued Fatwa's on numerous occasions for destroying the Muslim-Christian relations. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4628028.stmwww.google.com/search?aq=f&num=20&hl=en&safe=off&q=muslims+shun+terrorism&btnG=SearchOnce again you are talking about how SOME countries run their society. Not every Muslim country has extremist views. Turkey, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia, Tajikistan, Côte d'Ivoire, Burkina Faso, Bosnia, and numerous other countries with high Muslim populations denounce and shun terrorism and everything you have mentioned. If you did your research, you'd actually understand better but its crystal clear you're simply against anything Muslim. I never mentioned terrorism. Are you telling me that Christian countries have public beheadings or imprison women that are not accompanied by men or stone women who are not dressed from head to toe? Accusing me of being against "anything Muslim" is hypocritical. You're Anti Muslim, I'm yet to see a post that shows otherwise.
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Mar 29, 2008 19:14:59 GMT -5
Post by c0gnate on Mar 29, 2008 19:14:59 GMT -5
^ Muslims resort to terrorism also because they view martyrdom as a great thing. During the 80s many Iranian youths volunteered to run accross minefields during the Iran-Iraq war to become martyrs. Almost every Palestinian terrorist has amrtyrdom as a goal. I don't think many people would resort to martyrdom if they didn't feel their back was to the wall and they had no other choice. Remember Milosh Obilich?
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