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Post by lokii on Jan 28, 2013 16:57:24 GMT -5
^^^
All anyone need do is trace his sons, they are Serbs and identify as such, no Serb poems here and definatly no Albanian attempts at rewriting history, thanx.
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Post by lokii on Jan 28, 2013 16:46:29 GMT -5
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Post by lokii on Jan 28, 2013 16:28:31 GMT -5
Well this is what I have been telling you, most scholars consider Balsa I as Serb, it is Malcolm who states the family was Serbo-Albanian. We dont know for sure because the founders family line was not recorded. Balsa I's sons killed Ilijic who was the Lord of upper Zeta enabling the Balsic family to completly rule Zeta. Balsic family did not establish Zeta it was Ceslav who first ruled Zeta in 930. Balsa I was subordinate to Uros the weak. It was Balsic family that Balsa I founded, there is no Balshajt family recorded in any history books except the Albanian ones. I am inclined to agree with Malcolm that the family did have Serbo-Albanian roots. The Balsic family ended with BasaIII who passed on the rule of Zeta to his cousin Stephan the tall.
Serbs and Albanians do share more than neighbouring history, your noble familys mixed so how can anyone say the commoners did not.
Can we move on to your other statements now ?
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Post by lokii on Jan 28, 2013 5:07:23 GMT -5
^^^^
Lol great example of when you got nothing, well done.
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Post by lokii on Jan 27, 2013 0:03:25 GMT -5
Balshajt were one of those noble families that were able to Survive the slavic invasion. As I said I dont know of any Balshajt nor can I find anything on ths family, so are we actually talking about the same thing here ? Balsa the first He was the ruler of Zeta, Subordinate to Uros the weak and his sons killed Ilijic the lord of Upper Zeta, it was Balsa I not any freakin Balshajt.
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Post by lokii on Jan 26, 2013 20:42:24 GMT -5
Well back it up show me this Balshajt you are talking about, because the one I am talking about is the one written in the History books Balsa I the founder of the Balsic noble family who ruled Zeta up until the death of Balsa III.
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Post by lokii on Jan 26, 2013 20:24:32 GMT -5
its the balshaj family situated at the time around shkodra, they are undisputed albanian nobility who had beef with the topiaj family, what balsic family do you speak of? duke schoolin' these fools like a bawwwws up in this bitch Balsic family of which Balsa I was the founder and up to Balsa III who then passed on the rule of Zeta to his uncle stefan the tall lazarevic , and really there is no need for name calling.
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Post by lokii on Jan 26, 2013 20:06:57 GMT -5
I am glad you agree with my post. Now let s talk about Balshajt:
Nowhere did I say I agree with your post, I have just chosen to start at Balsa and if you go back and read my post you will see that I point out that I will get back to the other points you made, ok ? good lets start,
I mentioned Stefan I because I was showing that Skendebeg fought under Stefens standard of the double headed eagle and then you came in with the whopper that Balsa founded Zeta which is 100% wrong and also that he was Albanian. Since you claim The Balsic noble family was Albanian I asked you to show me, but you did nothing just gave me a whole lot of mumbo jumbo, since the points you raised in your original post cannot be answered in one or two sentences i have chosen to break them up into smaller pieces so we can start with Balsa I, yes BALSA not balshajt (Which does not exist anywhere)
So I ask you again since you claim Balsa I was Albanian, show me how you are this confident, dont give me alliances etc show me liniage, truth is you cannot because his liniage is not known, and while most scholars agree he was a Serb and one claiming Serbo-Albanian roots you decide he is Albanian full stop, so show me why Historians are not correct and you are, and then we can move on to some of the other claims you make.
Oh and its Serbia not Servia, Serbs not Servs etc please use the correct terms when discussing with me if you cannot then there is no point discussing anything further with you because you are influenced by something other than History.
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Post by lokii on Jan 26, 2013 18:08:17 GMT -5
Could you please post a valid link when quoting content from other sites.
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Post by lokii on Jan 26, 2013 17:21:47 GMT -5
Aha Ok Dukeduka I will answer your dinner table bulls**t in pieces because I am busy today, but lets start with your quote on Zeta. You say that Zeta was first founded by Balshajt in 1356 ?
I am telling you that Zeta was first ruled by Ceslav around 930. I must admit I was confused by your quote listing Balshajt, lol it took a bit but I am guessing your refering to Balsa I from the Balsic noble family ? My my how quick you are to claim that family, most historians agree they where Serb however Malcolm suggest they were Serbo-Abanian and here you are saying they were purely Albanian ? ok then show me. And then we can move on to your other statements.
lets start here.
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Post by lokii on Jan 25, 2013 20:11:05 GMT -5
Why don't ask yourself what were the Serbs doing while Skanderbeg was slaying Turks?
Why dont you tell us what the Serbs where doing, since it seems you know, have you heard of Stefan I ? did you know Skandebeg fought under Stefans coat of arms the 2 headed eagle ? Real life aint so romantic as you think, I see some throw vassalage at the Serbs but guess what the Albanian Lords submited also and you guessed it so did Skendebeg.
You Albanians and Serbs are entwined both through History and blood, so forget the dinner table lessons.
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Post by lokii on Jan 22, 2013 19:36:51 GMT -5
Gonna take some getting used to.
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Post by lokii on Jan 22, 2013 19:08:54 GMT -5
Without offending but you know form what word the term Slav is derived.
Without offending dont be freakin stupid, dont just read nonsense on the web and take it for the truth and then present it here like you actualy know what your talking about.
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Post by lokii on Jan 22, 2013 19:00:58 GMT -5
just so that Pro-Uz saw it is enough for me
Yep I waited for a bit and once Pro posted that toon of the cross legged guy I deleted yours and now since you have seen his I have deleted his.
I did get a laugh out of your guardians bit though, unfortunatly there are young dumbazzes on this forum who would have taken it further and beyond a joke.
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Post by lokii on Jan 22, 2013 17:20:28 GMT -5
had a good chuckle at the previous posts but you all need to stay on topic.
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Post by lokii on Jan 21, 2013 20:04:04 GMT -5
^^^^ Wow, people shouldnt take libertys where history is concerned,cause it makes them look like imbeciles.
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Post by lokii on Jan 21, 2013 17:30:58 GMT -5
Well I guess I was right they (Serbs) seem to have learnt from the past and have not made any mistakes, what is interesting is that there were no Albanians attempting to protest while the Bulldozer was approaching ?? Stinks a bit of outsider influence does it not ?
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Post by lokii on Jan 19, 2013 21:21:34 GMT -5
Yep it was a gas pistol, Damn they gave him a good beating lol, i dare say he will cop a few more at the station.
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Post by lokii on Jan 19, 2013 18:09:09 GMT -5
Someone posted something about this a while ago, both sides hammered each other, even Albania took part with artillery barages, Lookup the battle of Kosara. Tanks,artillery,attack,counter attack it had it all.
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Post by lokii on Jan 18, 2013 15:57:28 GMT -5
lol bunch of sooks, fight back but leave the personal insults and familys alone, dont overwrite a Mod and you are golden, you dont have to like each other but you will display a certain amount of respect and civility, if you cant, then this aint the forum for you and If a mod misses something report it by pressing that little link that says "report to Mod"
Easy.
Locked.
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