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Post by kapedan on Sept 30, 2014 13:58:15 GMT -5
In the Pre-Greek era they were two major ethnos living around the area of Peloponnese: Dorians and Ionians.
Dorians had a Pelasgian origin and they came to Sparta descending from Epir during Dorian Invasion.
Ionians were Semitics that came in Athens from Asia Minor (Miletus). There is a debate going on about the origin of the Ionains, but I think they were Semitics for these reasons:
1. They had the same way of behavior the Phoenicians did when it came at colonizing ports at sea.
2. Ionians borrowed from the Semitic-Phoenicians the first alphabet they used.
3. Homer does not mention Ionians neither in Iliad, nor in Odissey; meaning that they were not present at the war of Troy. (Did they came into Minor Asia after the War of Troy as a result of a power vacuum at the region? - Maybe yes, maybe not)
4. The first translation of the Semitic-Hebrew book named Torah was done by using the Semitic?-Ionain language and the Semitic-Phoenician alphabet. That book was later called as Old Testament.
5. Persians called Greece as Yaunā, Armenians call them as Hunastan, Semitic-Arabaic call them as al-Yūnān, in Armaic called as Yawnānā, Indians call them as Yavana.
6. Jewish antiquity (and the Bible) gives this analogy of the Greek lineage. Japhet - Javan - Ionia- Grecians. (not that I believe it 100% but there is some truth to it)
7. The first time the word Graeci was used by Aristotle to call the Dorians of Epir.
8. The Pelponessian Wars between Athens (Ionians) and Sparta (Dorians) were not only for power, but also for cultural supremacy, and racial differences.
9. Ionians and Dorians had different deities. Dorian-Pelasgians had Zeus and Dodona, while Ionians had others forms of believes.
10. During Byzantium the book of Torah translated into the Old Testament by using the Semitic?-Ionian language and the Semitic-Phoenician alphabet fought everything that was Doric. (Zeus, Dodona...all other Dorian deities were all banned)
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Post by kapedan on Sept 30, 2014 10:54:57 GMT -5
Wow this is so amazing; hey check this other toponyms as well:
Serbonnes, France (the first settlers of Paris were Serbs initially, but later on when it got too crowded, they decided to move to Serbonnes)
Sorbonne University in Paris also was founded by a noble Serb, but due to modesty he never reveled his true name.
His brother settled in the region of Servon , France which is not very far apart from the town of Melun.
Sorbus flower was a typical rose that bloomed only on those places were Serbs' foot touched the ground, predominantly in Europe, Africa and Asia.
Lake Serbos was the actual lake from where the Moses let the Hebrews pass while it opened it in half. The legend says that the Serbian god of sun also known as Ilir, was among Serbs while they were helping the Hebrews building up the Pyramids of Pharaoh in Egypt. Lake Serbos goes hot in summer and during winter times it gets cold. Only the descendants of Serbs of Africa and the ones of Antarctica are allowed to have fishing license in that lake.
Serban Voda in Bulgaria is the other heart of Serbia, besides Kosovo, Bosnia, Montenegro, half of Croatia, and some parts of Romania.
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Post by kapedan on Sept 29, 2014 23:31:13 GMT -5
Golden Dawn is looking for after the interests of Orthodoxy and not Greece, because Greece itself is not a nation, but a state composed of different ethnicites bound together by a Semitic-Abrahamic ideology called Orthodoxy.
Greece is not different from Israel or from ISIS; for the reason that Israel itself is not built in ethnicity but in an other Abrahamic-Semitic philosophy called Judasim.
Same logic stands for ISIS; people of different ethnicites are bound together by a Semitic-Abrahamic ideology called Islam.
Greece, Israel, and ISIS equalize ethnicity with religion, where in fact they are two totally different concepts.
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Post by kapedan on Sept 29, 2014 23:20:52 GMT -5
Women are Goddesses, whoever tries to belittle them needs to get punished. A man honoring women doesn't do nothing else but shows his own strength.
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Post by kapedan on Sept 29, 2014 23:13:14 GMT -5
At least the Greek nation has some pulse of life in it as little as it might be. What do Albanians have? You have to define to define what "pulse of life" stands for? If it's related with Nazi collaboration then Albanians do posses that kind of pulse of life; same like Russians and other Slavs in do. www.mourningtheancient.com/truth.htmGreece was one of those states to oppose Albania's standing at the Allies Side when WW2 was finished. My posts were a reply to that picture made by a Greek portraying as if Albanians were only Nazi collaborators, when in fact there was a partisan movements in Albania, same like there were Nazi collaborators in Greece as well. Germany has partisans movements also during WW2, which were surprisingly backed by the monarchs. Funny how the interests can make you forget the ideology you embrace.
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Post by kapedan on Sept 29, 2014 19:41:55 GMT -5
Greek security unit volunteers with the Waffen-SS until 1944
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Post by kapedan on Sept 29, 2014 19:40:01 GMT -5
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Post by kapedan on Sept 29, 2014 18:54:56 GMT -5
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Post by kapedan on Sept 29, 2014 0:06:11 GMT -5
HA...HO....HA....HI....HU.........It is not possible to find names and records about Slavic Paganism in general, never mind specific Serbian mythology. You meant to say Perun little troll, not Ilir. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_mythology
The first time you called themselves Illyrians it was after Napoleon tried to revive the greatness of Roman Empire by re-naming a part of ex Illyricum as province of Illyria.
You seem to like it, get comfortable with the term an then started the Illyrian Movement, which in fact was Slavic movement not Illyrian.
----------------------------------------- Romans did not call you ilir for two reasons: 1. ilir is not a Latin term and Romans called populations by using Latin words. 2. Romans refereed to today's population of Serbia as Servs or Servian. Being considered as a free man is not only a social status, but also a cultural identity.
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Post by kapedan on Sept 28, 2014 23:44:27 GMT -5
yea perfect .....perfect loony tune East of the Carpathian mountains there are no Slavs, but Mongols, Siberians, and other Asians.
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Post by kapedan on Sept 28, 2014 23:40:56 GMT -5
Serbian bones under Albania land? No such thing, but be careful what you wish for.....the universe might grant your wish. Slavic toponyms can be found alongside Balkan as the result of Serbia's Dusan and Bulgarian expansion due to a backstabbing activity from their part towards the Byzantine after it opened the doors and welcomed them. Cities and regions in Albania that have Slavic toponyms still retain their Roman and pre-Roman names. Other Slavic toponyms in Europe? Where exactly? Poland, Chekia, Slovakia, Ukraine? they may sound Serbian because they are Slavic, but are not Serbian. West Asia?...Well to be more precise the Carpathian mountains which are also the departure point of Serbians when they left for Byzantium around the VI AC. North Africa? That's exclusively lands of Berbers, and Semitics. No such thing as Slavs there, especially Serbians. (Unless the ancestors of Milosevic were building the pyramids together with the Hebrews in Egypt - irony)
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Post by kapedan on Jun 29, 2014 23:53:18 GMT -5
Antika Srbija = Antika FYROM. Let Kanakaris deal wit it.
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Post by kapedan on Jun 29, 2014 23:51:22 GMT -5
^ c'mon brate, the ancient Shqiptars passed nothing onto us, everything they claim is Serbian! Rex promised me, once, to take me and show me the Jovan Vladimir monastery in ELBASAN, Shqiperia then off to his cousins, Chobas house in Maliq (Malich) town for a snack! Rex gave me his besa many times, but his busy learning to be a patient dervish so it will cleanse his soul from these lord Byron boy poems he fantasises over! Poor Rex! Before jumping at the Manastir of Elbasan, try to protect the hereditary of the one of Gracanica; for it seems as if under the foundations of that one lie the bones of a saint that sacrificed itself long time before 1300.
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Post by kapedan on Jun 29, 2014 23:44:04 GMT -5
Michael Attaleiates: "Unfortunately, the people who had once been our allies and who possessed the same rights as citizens and the same religion, i.e. the Albanians and the Latins, who live in the Italian regions of our Empire beyond Western Rome, quite suddenly became enemies when Michael Dokenianos insanely directed his command against their leaders..." It states above from Attaleiates that the ALBANIANS (Shqiptars) and Latins live BEYOND WESTERN ROME, why not EAST? Svetlana Pletnjova: "In the eigth century, a part of the Albanian population went to SYRIA while the other PART went to ARABIA; Later on, the Albanians were resettled to SICILY in order to increase the Island's Muslim population." During the settlement of Old Albanians to Sicily, the region was ruled by ARABS: With the coming of the Arabs, they converted the Old Albanians in the 8th century to Islam. But meanwhile, at the time, the Arabs were waging campaigns in Sicily, dividing it into two parts, (hence there was the Kingdom of the two Sicilies). In order to populate their part of Sicily, the Arabs brought with them Old Albanians from the Caucasus. To this day, their descendants live in Sicily. Now it leads me to this Serbian Source, look away, it may cause a heart-attack: Atanasje Urosevic: Atanasje Urosevic in 1929 researched the Albanian tribes in Kosovo regarding their origins; all Albanians and their imams said the following to him. "It is most commonly known that Arabia was the Albanians' old home. Sometimes it is emphasized in FOLKLORES; consequently, all Albanians knew that AZRETI IMER brought the Albanians to Sicily" Ottoman Turks frequently called Albanians, 'Arnauti', for they KNEW Albanians were the ONES WHO DID NOT RETURN! Arnauti is translated in Arabic as: "those who have not returned". Your wondering why the Albanians were brought from Sicily to the Balkans: "Then in 1042, the Byzantine Empire attacked the Serbian state after having defeated the Arabs in Sicily and having brought the Sicilian Albanians under their command and Christianizing them. The leader of the Byzantines who led the Albanians was named Georgios Maniakos. Maniakos brought Albanian mercenaries from Sicily to fight the Serbs and they settled in two waves in modern day Albania, first the mercenaries came, and then came the women and children. After the defeat of Maniakos, the Byzantines would not let the Albanians return, thus the Albanians requested that the Serbs let them stay on the land. They settled under mount Raban and the city of Berat and from this, the Serbs called them "Rabanasi" or "Arbanasi". The city of Berat was known as Belgrad also, before the Albanians came to settle there. They mostly tended sheep and cattle and lent themselves out to Serbian nobles as brave soldiers." Arben Puto and Stefanq Pollo (Albanian Historians recognise): "The Byzantine writer....Michael Ataliota wrote about the Byzantine general from Sicily....landed in Drac (Durres) in 1043 CE, with an army consisting of Byzantine and Albanian Soldiers." Also backed by Cyprien Robert, James Baker and Robert Gordon Latham: "The Byzantines threw out the Albanians out of their territory and INTO SERBIA where the Albanians begged the Serbian King Vojislav for a place to settle; since they traditionally were cattlemen, they were allowed to settle in Raban." What the heck, l've got loads of sources, l'll give you a couple more: MAGIUS PATAVIUS: "The Children of the Caucasus" as the medieval writer Magius Patavius wrote in his "Shqiptars and Arnauts Children of Caucasus" J.C.HOBHOUSE: "We know that Albanians came from the Caucasus and afterwards, they were under a strong lingual and cultural SERBIAN INFLUENCE; this is why Albanians have a SLAVIC FOUNDATION IN THEIR LANGUAGE." Every resource related to Albanians that finishes with the suffix "VIC" is as good as a skinny cow going: MUUUUUUUUUUUUUuu....
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Post by kapedan on Jun 29, 2014 23:41:58 GMT -5
What does ilir mean in Shqipe? ilir = free person/man liri = freedom iliri = the free person/man What does ilir means in Serbian or Greece?
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Post by kapedan on May 29, 2014 21:26:35 GMT -5
Wow! Greece has helped with a considerable number of blankets....a true example.
Greece should have brought a giant cross too so people could hang their clothes and dry them off in there.
Just do the favor and shut the **** up, stop bragging about it. It is a moral duty to help those that are helpless, it is not an opportunity to advertise yourself.
Ju dhjefsha miqesine une juve.
**** hypocrites.
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Post by kapedan on May 29, 2014 21:11:21 GMT -5
That's because you're innocent and naive.
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Post by kapedan on May 29, 2014 21:08:36 GMT -5
Greece was the name of the land which was baptized so after its colonization by Romans.
Illyria is as much Greece and Dardania is Serbia.
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Post by kapedan on May 26, 2014 18:48:59 GMT -5
There is no water!!! There are more volunteers from Kosovo helping with the floods rather than from Greece. I honestly feel bad about the elders, kids and other fukaras that work hard enough to survive. But I feel more sorry about the other fact that it is them who suffer and not you kurvas of this forum. You should have been there instead of their places. You that say: you that demand respect from Albanians because if Serbs wanted they could have killed them....As if you didn't do it already; and what logic is it anyhow? Instead of making fun of Albanians you should learn from them. Albanians came back from kurbet in hard times, you kurvas talk doggybitchi in here while investing to the western world, paying taxes to the western world and hating every single bit of the Western world. Damn your lives are miserable. where is your help? where is your volunteering? Instead of waiting for Greeks' help, take your butt on your hands, buy a ticket and you be the volunteer. Winy kurvas.
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Post by kapedan on May 26, 2014 18:11:46 GMT -5
Definitely not Albanian, nor Serbian either. As a matter of fact not even yours. What I meant was the place where you came from into this world.
Ohhh.. and stop sniffing people's butt. That's kaka.
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