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Post by radovic on Oct 9, 2007 10:28:32 GMT -5
The only good thing about this rally is it shows the idiocy of Serbia's luiberals especially the jacobins of the LDP:
Clearly the government has done that now and before. Furthermore, Mr. Canak you seem to be advocating police brutality yet in the 90s when neo-nazi's tried to organize a similar rallies and were prevented by Milosevic's police using police brutality you defended their right to protest and criticized the police brutality. You, Mr. Canak are political scum.
The same things about Canak applies to you Cedo "Narkoman." So I guess your advocating the police spy on people, put wiretaps on their phones and use police brutality. You like him are using this for cheap political points, every body knows that your actually against the government actually having the power to do something like that.
Fruthermore. What's even worst is that these two make these claims but yet they defended a hungarian who was a member of a neo-nazi group in Hungary running for Serbian parliament. This makes yopu even bigger scum.
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Post by Zvone on Oct 9, 2007 12:12:05 GMT -5
That's pure stipulation. Fact of the matter is 51% voted for independence and received it. Democracy benefits the majority.
Political and social intolerance, in most cases, go hand in hand.
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Post by radovic on Oct 9, 2007 13:42:14 GMT -5
This is a mistatement of fact. The Montenegrin constitution specifically says residents of Montenegro can vote in it's elections. The main problems with the vote are the follwuing: a. The constitution was not upheld and these following exmaples say why: 1. Montenegrins in Serbia were not given the vote as stated by the constitution, but some montenegrin citizens living aborad (mainly Albanians and Bonsiaks) could vote depsite the fact that it was against the constitutional law. 2. Montenegrins studying in university in Serbia could not vote even though under the Montenegrin law they would be recognized as residents. 3. Refugees who have lived in Montenegro for years could not vote even though they were resident. 4. The law stipulates residency of 6 months. In some cases people who lived in Montenegro for less then 6 months voted.
b. Whether the elction was free and fair is also up to debate. Government employees were told to vote for independence or be fired. Prisoners were told that if they vote for independence they would get reduced sentences. Some who voted for independence recieved rewards. In a democracy their is the secret ballot and the government should not know how some one voted -- this seems to have not been met.
c. The issue of bribes and other methods to get people to vote a certain way.
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Post by serbguerrilla on Oct 9, 2007 16:07:14 GMT -5
"The majority of Montenegrins didn’t want to be independent, even if you leave out all the sleaze then it is still a 51% margin." The majority of Montenegrins in Serbia were pro-independence, the only reason why they werent let into MNE for voting was because of the law of the union at the time which states if you're a registered voter in one part of the union, you cannot vote in another in another part. Not to mention there is a Montenegrin Orthodox church in vojvodina... And serbs are not so tolerant, they opress and hate minorities, this is a known fact A known fact that every serb deeply hates croatians, albanians, and gypsies. Even if they look like they're fine, deep inside they have a burning rage, but wont show it in front of the person's face. What are you basing this on? What your racist parents taught you? The only minority that has 'caused problems' really are the Albanians. There are over 20 other ethnic groups in Serbia that are integrated yet able to maintain their distinct culture. Even in the treatment of Roma Serbia is among the most tolerant. Why shouldnt we? You ppl removed our autonomy, oppresed my ppl, tried with ethnic cleansing (almost succeded), numerous massacres, rapes, demolishing of historical and religious sites and destroyd Kosova's infrastructure... The Albanians did all those things to the Serb minority in Kosovo for the past 100 years. You people have no moral right to Kosovo. How many Albanians were permanently cleansed from Kosovo? Over half a million Serbs were permanently cleansed from Kosovo over the past 100 years and it doesn’t look like the Albanians will be giving them compensation anytime soon. Not to mention how many fascist Albanians in Kosovo helped sabotage major power plants there during the Tito years. They also committed murderers and rapes but since the local police were Albanians and since the politicians in Beograd were pussies, no investigations were carried out.
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Post by Demonel on Oct 9, 2007 16:14:51 GMT -5
This SerbGorila must be Bob. When I saw this on the news there was a flag of Serbia in the front row.
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Post by serbguerrilla on Oct 9, 2007 16:29:33 GMT -5
This SerbGorila must be Bob. When I saw this on the news there was a flag of Serbia in the front row. How hypocritical of you. Calling me a gorilla when you are the one from Tuzla.
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Post by Demonel on Oct 9, 2007 16:39:09 GMT -5
"How hypocritical of you. Calling me a gorilla when you are the one from Tuzla." Thank God I'm not from Travnik. P.S. I'm not from Tuzla I just live there.
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Post by serbguerrilla on Oct 9, 2007 17:00:06 GMT -5
"How hypocritical of you. Calling me a gorilla when you are the one from Tuzla." Thank God I'm not from Travnik. P.S. I'm not from Tuzla I just live there. You do know that Travnik is a Muslim city?
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Post by Demonel on Oct 9, 2007 17:37:15 GMT -5
"You do know that Travnik is a Muslim city?" Nope, it's a Bosnian town, with a Bosniak majority.
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Post by serbguerrilla on Oct 9, 2007 17:51:08 GMT -5
"You do know that Travnik is a Muslim city?" Nope, it's a Bosnian town, with a Bosniak majority. They called themselves Muslims before and during the war. They shall therefore always be branded Muslims. ‘Bosniak’ is false nationality, like Kosovar. Their purpose is to give legitimacy where there is none.
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Post by Anthologic on Oct 9, 2007 18:04:11 GMT -5
As opposed to which country? Croatia? Bosnia? Montenegro? Please. Serbia has the most tolerant people in the Balkans no thanks to its ethnic minorities which keep causing problems. Um.. no. Homosexuals get beaten like everyday, and the only truly tolerant part of Serbia is Vojvodina. Belgrade is more metropolitan... but everywhere else, not really.
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Post by Demonel on Oct 9, 2007 18:09:16 GMT -5
Nope, the "Muslims" was the false nationality. Bosniaks are much older then 1993 when the name was reinstated.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 9, 2007 18:39:34 GMT -5
Good, l'm glad the neo nazis are getting rounded up. They should be shipped off to Germany and live with their founding fathers.
I have said in the past and l will say it again, l just don't understand why these people want to become nazis since Adolf thought of slavs and second class citizens and should be exterminated from europe.
Just plain DUMB.
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Post by serbguerrilla on Oct 9, 2007 19:44:22 GMT -5
Nope, the "Muslims" was the false nationality. Bosniaks are much older then 1993 when the name was reinstated. There is no mention of Bosniak nationality throughout history. The name was invented as a way to make the Muslim population in Bosnia seem more legitimate then the Serb or Croat populations. As opposed to which country? Croatia? Bosnia? Montenegro? Please. Serbia has the most tolerant people in the Balkans no thanks to its ethnic minorities which keep causing problems. Um.. no. Homosexuals get beaten like everyday, and the only truly tolerant part of Serbia is Vojvodina. Belgrade is more metropolitan... but everywhere else, not really. I’m talking about ethnic minorities.
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Post by ljubomir on Oct 9, 2007 21:18:50 GMT -5
Good, l'm glad the neo nazis are getting rounded up. They should be shipped off to Germany and live with their founding fathers. I have said in the past and l will say it again, l just don't understand why these people want to become nazis since Adolf thought of slavs and second class citizens and should be exterminated from europe. Just plain DUMB. Most skinheads nowadays are of slavic background... Russia, Poland, Slovakia, Czech etc etc.. they all have their fair share of skinheads, but all are of Slavic blood.. It is quite astonishing really... Anyway, I think all these leftwing/commi types should be given the boot.. I said it before, i'll say it again, they don't have anything else in mind but to split Serbia up even more.. They're the biggest picke going around..
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Post by serbguerrilla on Oct 9, 2007 21:36:40 GMT -5
I am against internationalists. Those NeoNazis and the Jacobins are both internationalists and bad for Serbia and the Serbian people.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 9, 2007 22:39:13 GMT -5
"Most skinheads nowadays are of slavic background... Russia, Poland, Slovakia, Czech etc etc.. they all have their fair share of skinheads, but all are of Slavic blood.. It is quite astonishing really...
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Anyway, I think all these leftwing/commi types should be given the boot.. I said it before, i'll say it again, they don't have anything else in mind but to split Serbia up even more.. They're the biggest picke going around.."
I think these people arn't educated and are doing a disservice to the community. If someone could explain to them the intentions of Hitlers plan and especially towards Slavs in general, then they would change.
It is quite astonishing because it would be in the order of an American black fighting the cause of the KKK. I remember these people had beaten to death a serb who had a complexion which was olive because they mistook him for a Roma......now this is really scary!.
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Post by ljubomir on Oct 10, 2007 0:45:20 GMT -5
"I think these people arn't educated and are doing a disservice to the community. If someone could explain to them the intentions of Hitlers plan and especially towards Slavs in general, then they would change."
But that's the thing.. They are educated, i go on their forums every now and then (out of interest, i don't participate in discussion) and the way they talk you can tell they aren't dumb.. The thing is they don't acknowledge the rest of the world's belief about how Hitler disliked the Slavs. They have their own sources and they believe he disliked the Slavs, not because of racial inferiority but because most slavic countries were communist..
Anyway, Hitler was a man full of contradictions.. an imbecile..
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Post by terroreign on Oct 10, 2007 1:32:57 GMT -5
"Your grossly exagerrating this and plus Albanians & Croats are more hateful and Gypsies -- they're hated throughout Europe in the same degree. And that so-called "MOC" was nothing but a provocation and isn't even functioning as a proper church.
Oppress minorities. You mean minorities make up claims or exaggerate the truth. What they say is refutable and published by groups that do not verify their sources.
You shouldn't talk terrorreign. Your the most hateful person on this forum. Hell, yoyu hate your own group."
"grossly exaggerating"? haha i actually think im not stressing the fact enough!
Not only do the general amount of serbs deeply hate croats and albanians, they are at the same time afraid of them! And why? Because they know that the albs and croats know that the serbs are racists!
Similar to how some (southern) white people in america deeply hate black people, but at the same time are very scared of them!
This is what we call "Kukavice"! One fine staple of the Serb legacy XD.
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The MOC is actually very functioning and spreading rapidly, even Slobodan Milosevic's Daughter is for the Montenegrin Orthodox Church!
Even the late Zoran Djindjic supported the MOC and the Monte Minorty in Vojvodina very much.
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Post by ljubomir on Oct 10, 2007 1:52:41 GMT -5
SOC Illegitimate? LOL... priests carrying guns? LOL
what's your next plan of attack siptar?
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