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Post by Beach Police on Nov 13, 2007 21:24:53 GMT -5
Indonesia supports the territorial integrity of Serbia 13. November 2007. 19.51
Indonesia resolutely supports the preservation of Serbia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, it has been pointed during the meeting of two countries’ parliamentarians in Belgrade. Indonesian representatives have stressed that the authorities in Jakarta were pledging for the resolving of the Kosmet issue in a peaceful manner, with adherence to basic principles of the international law. President of the Serbian Assembly Foreign Policy Board Dragoljub Micunovic said that Serbia was very appreciative of Indonesia’s support, which has taken, as a member of the UN Security Council a principled stance in defending the international law, and has few times pointed that Kosmet is an integral part of the Republic of Serbia.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 13, 2007 21:30:14 GMT -5
Indonesia will be in a far worse situation than serbia if kosovo is granted independance....imagine 300 or so ethnic groups wanted their piece.
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Post by MiG on Nov 13, 2007 21:58:57 GMT -5
^ It's the rest of Timur/Timor they are worried about. It is constitutionally a Presidential Republic, but it has a lot of seperatist groups as you mentioned. More and more people want a Federal System. A part of the Timor Island got independance as a seperate state (As the Dem. Rep. of Timor-Leste), or as the Timorese call it, "East Timor". Obviously they want the rest of Timur/Timor, as they are claiming "West Timor" as theirs.
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Post by radovic on Nov 14, 2007 0:18:41 GMT -5
^ It's the rest of Timur/Timor they are worried about. It is constitutionally a Presidential Republic, but it has a lot of seperatist groups as you mentioned. More and more people want a Federal System. A part of the Timor Island got independance as a seperate state (As the Dem. Rep. of Timor-Leste), or as the Timorese call it, "East Timor". Obviously they want the rest of Timur/Timor, as they are claiming "West Timor" as theirs. Not just Timur. The civil war in Banda Aceh only ended after the Tsunami. The various other ethnic communities have some support for seperatism. Some prosperous islands like Bali would want independence. Not only that but on the indonesian half of New Guinea their are dormant seperatist paramilitary groups ready to fight again in the near future.
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Post by MiG on Nov 14, 2007 0:26:06 GMT -5
^ To reunite West Guinea with Paupa New Guinea is their goal, yes. With or without the Kosovo situation, it's happening in the near future.
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Post by viktor1 on Nov 14, 2007 2:32:47 GMT -5
fcuk them, atleast the thruth is coming out--> Extremist jihadist r supporting serbia, atleast alboz has support of the real people America, England, France, Germany etc...
Loser is allways loser, right serb|tchez
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 14, 2007 5:07:49 GMT -5
^ Believe what you want, but the rule of law will prevail!. If it were 1000 years ago then it may have been a different story.
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Post by sorryp on Nov 14, 2007 6:25:33 GMT -5
Hey victor, france and germany you say? Real people? 1- Are albies real people and by which criteria? 2- Dont bet on France - Korsika is seeking independence, Dutch want to split from Belgium as well 3- Germany, let the rich russians buy some cheapo bmws, mercs, etc... and they are all for Russia the next day 4- UK??? USA??? who are they??? I mean USA cant even produce some decent movies anymore. They can only beat nations like afganistan (for a short while that is, before they get their butt kicked) 5- The most powerfull takes it all. That will happen now, with Serbia taking kosovo back, that would happen 1000 years ago, and 1000 from now. 6- Albies, unless the Holy Spirit lands on your fat stupid heads and pours some intelligence into it, nothing will change dramatically
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Post by suart on Nov 14, 2007 7:51:39 GMT -5
6- Albies, unless the Holy Spirit lands on your fat stupid heads and pours some intelligence into it, nothing will change dramatically Well said!
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Post by meltdown711 on Nov 14, 2007 11:34:36 GMT -5
Serbia is loosing over 20k people a year, from what I have heard. How can you talk about 1000 years from now? Especially when the Albanian population in Kosova increases by 26k a year...
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Post by radovic on Nov 14, 2007 12:03:46 GMT -5
fcuk them, atleast the thruth is coming out--> Extremist jihadist r supporting serbia, atleast alboz has support of the real people America, England, France, Germany etc... Loser is allways loser, right serb|tchez Indonesia isn't an extemist jihadist state.
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Post by radovic on Nov 14, 2007 12:05:28 GMT -5
Serbia is loosing over 20k people a year, from what I have heard. How can you talk about 1000 years from now? Especially when the Albanian population in Kosova increases by 26k a year... 20k. Those statisitics don't count the fact that next year 2% of the Serbain population will be repatriated from the west and the fact that those statistic do not count refugees. With refugees nthat figure is below 20k less. Not only that since in government statistics the 50,000 already repatriated aren't counted.
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Post by meltdown711 on Nov 14, 2007 13:41:53 GMT -5
Refugees are a short-term solution; as well as repatriates. The actual problem is long-term: low birthrates. Refugees only mask the problem.
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Post by radovic on Nov 14, 2007 17:16:05 GMT -5
Refugees are a short-term solution; as well as repatriates. The actual problem is long-term: low birthrates. Refugees only mask the problem. true. The current refugees have a birth rate more then twice that of Serbs (they have a positive birth rate), if they are included the number of people Serbia's population drops by is smaller. This year the birth rate is higher then last year. The Serbian demographics problem is not as big as people make it. however it is still negative in the long-term.
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