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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Oct 13, 2008 15:06:41 GMT -5
ex-YU (sve vesti) Incidenti na protestu u Podgorici (VIDEO) Ponedeljak, 13. oktobar 2008. 21:17 Protest opozicionih stranaka u Podgorici, organizovanog zbog odluke Vlade Crne Gore da prizna nezavisnost Kosova, prekinut je u ponedeljak uveče posle sukoba demonstranata i policije. Izveštač MONDA javlja da je grupa demonstranata pred kraj mitinga, srušila zaštitnu ogradu ispred Skupštine Crne Gore i nasrnula na policajce, gađajući ih bakljama i drugim pirotehničkim sredstvima, a policija je reagovala, izbacujući suzavac. Masa od oko 20.000 ljudi se razbežala, a, prema nezvaničnim informacijama, ima povređenih i među policajcima, demonstrantima, ali i među novinarima i fotoreporterima. Uhapšen je "određeni broj lica", javila je Televizija Crne Gore. Pogledajte snimke koje je zabeležio reporter MONDA [youtube] uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HQK_7JYjE2g&eurl=http://www.mtsmondo.com/news/vesti/text.php?vest=112504[/youtube]Snimak 2 uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hiafzuvONYQ&eurl=http://www.mtsmondo.com/news/vesti/text.php?vest=112504U Kliničkom centru saopšteno je da je do sada zbrinuto 13 osoba, koje su lakše povređene u sukobu, a među njima je i fotoreporter podgoričkog lista "Vijesti" Vesko Belojević, koji je imao lakše povrede glave. Mandić štrajkuje glađu do odgovora VladePre incidenata, na skupu ispred Skupštine Crne Gore, opozicija je pročitala zahteve upućene crnogorskim vlastima, a zahtevi su: da Vlada Crne Gore do srede, 15. oktobra u 11 sati, poništi "nelegalnu odluku" o priznavanju nezavinosti Kosova, a da Skupština raspiše referendum na kojem će se građani izjasniti o tome da li su za priznavanje nezavisnosti Kosova ili ne. Ukoliko vlast ne prihvati ta dva zahteva, zahteva se da predsednik Republike raspiše vanredne izbore koji će se održati pre kraja ove godine. Televizija Crne Gore javila je da je lider opozicione Srpske narodne stranke Andrija Mandić najavio da će štrajkovati glađu u zgradi Skupštine Crne Gore do srede, odnosno do roka koji je dat Vladi Crne Gore da poništi odluku o priznavanju nezavisnosti Kosova. Okupljeni na platou ispred Skupštine Crne Gore nosili su srpske zastave i srpska nacionalna obeležja, kao i transparente od kojih su najupečatljiviji: "Stidite se guzice kad obraza nemate“ i "U pamet se crnogorci - svi smo braća od krvi i mesa, svi smo djeca jednieh nebesa, Kosovo je Srbija“. Demonstranti su uzvikivali i parole protiv premijera Crne Gore Mila Đukanovića, optužujući ga da je izdao Srbiju. Iz mase se u jednom trenutku čulo: "Idemo na vladu", ali su demonstranti ostali ispred Skupštine Crne Gore. Tokom protesta zapaljena je jedna američka zastava. Među okupljenima su bili i lideri pojedinih opizicionih stranaka, među kojima i Nebojša Medojević, čija stranka - Pokret za promjene nije organizator skupa ali je Medojević podržao protest prosrpskih stranaka. www.mtsmondo.com/slike/vesti/001/125/v112504p2.jpg[/img] Prethodnih dana protest je iskazivan vožnjom automobilima kroz centar Podgorice i drugih crnogorskih gradova. Predstavnici vladajuće Demokratske partije socijalista (DPS) izrazili su negodovanje zbog organizacije ovog protesta, poručivši opoziciji da se vlast ne dobija na ulici već na izborima. “Vlast se dobija na izborima, a ne na ulici. Izbori će biti raspisani naredne godine, kako je i dogovoreno prilikom donošenja Ustava“, poručio je funkcioner DPS Predrag Sekulić. Predsednik Crne Gore Filip Vujanović rekao je da su svi protesti legitmni izraz demokratskog raspoloženja onih koji protestuju. "Protesti su svuda u svetu demokratski iskaz volje onih koji imaju neslaganja, a istovremeno i njihova obaveza i onih koji ga organizuju da poštuju javni red i mir i bezbednost drugih", istakao je Vujanović. On je rekao i da je odluka crnogorske vlade o priznavanju nezavisnosti Kosova u skladu sa Ustavom i da je zvanična Podgorica sledila države koje su do sada priznale Kosovo. Prema njegovim rečima, sa visokom senzitivnošću je cenjena osetljivost tog pitanja za Srbiju, a postojala je i potreba za partnerstvom sa onima koji su priznanje očekivali u evropskim i evroatlantskim integracijama. Vujanović je dodao da su vlasti Crne Gore svesne da državnu politiku ne mogu voditi na štetu njenih građana i "na štetu Crne Gore kao države".
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Oct 13, 2008 15:29:23 GMT -5
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Post by Bozur on Oct 13, 2008 19:10:20 GMT -5
PODGORICA Veliki Miting (KOSOVO JE SRBIJA)
Real Montenegrins
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Post by fannoli on Oct 13, 2008 21:07:45 GMT -5
It looks like Belgrade its going to get the Second Bombing phase by NATO. Hopefully this time it doesnt end up like Hiroshima although that would solve many problems in Balkans.
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Post by Teuta1975 on Oct 13, 2008 22:33:27 GMT -5
In English now
Podgorica police break up violent pro-Belgrade demonstration 13.10.08 23:58
Montenegrin police used teargas in the capital Podgorica Monday evening to disperse pro-Belgrade demonstrators demanding their government revoke its recognition of Serbia's breakaway province Kosovo, reports dpa.
Several thousand people showed up for the rally called by four pro- Serbian opposition parties. The protest turned violent when demonstrators began hurling rocks at police guarding the assembly in downtown Podgorica. Several people were reported injured.
Montenegro on Thursday recognized Kosovo, eight months after the Albanian-dominated province declared independence from Serbia.
Belgrade immediately expelled the Montenegrin ambassador and threatened other measures against the former sister-republic, which split from a federation with Serbia in 2006.
The opposition demanded of Prime Minister Milo Djukanovic to revoke the recognition of Kosovo and schedule a referendum to determine the stance regarding the former province, which was recognized by 50 states worldwide, including leading Western nations.
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Post by vinjak on Oct 13, 2008 22:36:50 GMT -5
It looks like Belgrade its going to get the Second Bombing phase by NATOLOL, does it? ........ Does it really ?
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Post by fannoli on Oct 13, 2008 23:47:45 GMT -5
^ Probably. Serbs are the best to whine when other treat them same way you treat other people. You went on a rampage in Kosovo and then when USA started to drop a few bombs in some remote factories in Novi Sad you started to cry murder. But thinkin about it dropping bombs doesnt solve anything not more than the shame of being losers. The shame of subjugating at someone's will(EU, NATO).
You think this protest will revoke the Montenegrin governments decision? You are wrong. It will probably radicalize those few Montenegrins like TerroReign and dislike Serbia even more.
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Post by zgembo on Oct 14, 2008 2:02:06 GMT -5
Napokon taj narod nasao muda.
Dobro je sto je bilo i Crnogorskih zastava na skupu... bilo bi jos bolje da ih ima vise.
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Post by Banatski on Oct 14, 2008 4:06:12 GMT -5
^ Probably. Serbs are the best to whine when other treat them same way you treat other people. You went on a rampage in Kosovo and then when USA started to drop a few bombs in some remote factories in Novi Sad you started to cry murder. But thinkin about it dropping bombs doesnt solve anything not more than the shame of being losers. The shame of subjugating at someone's will(EU, NATO). You think this protest will revoke the Montenegrin governments decision? You are wrong. It will probably radicalize those few Montenegrins like TerroReign and dislike Serbia even more. Very funny. I don't remember we cried when NATO bombed us, in fact I remember we resisted and had no outside help, unlike Albanians who learned very well how to cry in front of CNN's cameras to make the staged events that led to bombings somehow more convincing. But I don't know why I wrote this, I know you don't have a capacity to understand. Since you are mentioning the term "loser" in every of your posts I guess you will understand once you take the consequences of "your" victory.
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Post by tito on Oct 14, 2008 8:37:52 GMT -5
Unconfirmed sources claim that Adidas and Nike are withdrawing all of their products from Podgorica and Montenegro..
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Post by radovic on Oct 14, 2008 9:41:17 GMT -5
^ Probably. Serbs are the best to whine when other treat them same way you treat other people. You went on a rampage in Kosovo and then when USA started to drop a few bombs in some remote factories in Novi Sad you started to cry murder. But thinkin about it dropping bombs doesnt solve anything not more than the shame of being losers. The shame of subjugating at someone's will(EU, NATO). You think this protest will revoke the Montenegrin governments decision? You are wrong. It will probably radicalize those few Montenegrins like TerroReign and dislike Serbia even more. Lol. I find this funn y coming form Albanians given that: - Albanians love to complaing about how terrible Serb rule was, yet they were doing everything Slobo did to them for over 40 years in Kosovo. - Albanhians love to complain to U.S. senators that Montenegro is an "apartheid state" yet Djukanvoic is probably the most pro-Albanian Slavic politician in the Balkans because it serves it's interest and he isn't legally obliged to give into their demands like FYROM is. - Albanians love to complain about FYROM mistreating them, yet they constantly undermine the work of the government their and seem to ignore that FYROM has constantly given into their demands. Furthermore. I don't remember Serb crying, all I remember is Christian Amanpour or some visiting some Albanians and getting them to cry. I alos love it how Albanians often made up stories to draatize -- case in point, there was a Canadian documentary where some Albanian girl who joined the KLA claimed her sister was raped and killed the documentary makers visited her family they were shocked to find her sister alive and that the family denied ever claiming she was dead. Kind of like the case of the yellow house where Serb organs were removed, they were boasting for years what they did then they denied it. You clearly didn't know why they supposedly "cried" murder: - Hosptials were bombed. The most serious incidents were the neurological clinic in Beograd and the maternity ward. - Pro-war politicans were going on U.S. cmaeras saying that if Serbia did not surrender in 3 days [how long Biden and McCain expect the bombing to last], the U.S. should bomb all hospitals as legitimate targets. - During the war almost from the start, NATO was not bombing military targets but industrial taqrgets. - They bombed Zastava factories when workers made a human shield thinking it would not get bombed. But what else can you expect from a country whose first target during the 2003 invasion of Iraq was a dairy factory. - Not only that but the industrial facilities bombed were ones that had nothing to do with war production and often involved factories sought after by western companies (in 1998, Beocin was to be sold to France's LAfarge for $175 million, in 2001 it was sold for around 15% of the pruce and it was also hit on the first day of the bombing). - Infrastructure bombings were also something that the U.S. claimed were attacked for military resons. Except the U.S. started targeting these some 14 days in and by that time the briges had no military value as troops were already down in Kosovo. - If the U.S. was actually bombing military targets it should have focused on troops already in Kosovo. Furthermore. Terroreign isn't a Montenegrin. His inability to speak "Montenegrin" ab\nd his proficiancy in "Macedonian" and Albanian indicate he is an Albanian. Anyways, your claim is idotic since: - 1. Both anti-independence and pro-indepndence Montenegrins support the Serb stance. Even RTCG, state tv, says 85% of Montenegrins oppose recognition. - 2. Elections are to be held in 2009, likely in the first half. Protests could lead to early elections. If anything this actg by the Montenegrin government has united the pro- and anti-independence crowds, if anything this could lead to a DOS like coalition toppling the regime of Djukanovic.
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Post by fannoli on Oct 14, 2008 12:19:04 GMT -5
^ Probably. Serbs are the best to whine when other treat them same way you treat other people. You went on a rampage in Kosovo and then when USA started to drop a few bombs in some remote factories in Novi Sad you started to cry murder. But thinkin about it dropping bombs doesnt solve anything not more than the shame of being losers. The shame of subjugating at someone's will(EU, NATO). You think this protest will revoke the Montenegrin governments decision? You are wrong. It will probably radicalize those few Montenegrins like TerroReign and dislike Serbia even more. Furthermore. I don't remember Serb crying,. You dont remember them because you are a Serb who thinks his own chit does not stink so there is no point arguying with you. Well the world has Serb cryings on picture. All those demonstration in Belgrade: "NATO please stop bombing us." " NATO please stop killing our children". Ironic isnt it when somebody gives you a taste of you own medicine. - If the U.S. was actually bombing military targets it should have focused on troops already in Kosovo. Why would they play tit for tat when they can capitalize the country through destroying its economy. Industries, bridges, water dams. More effective, less soldier lives, with a push of a button!!
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Post by radovic on Oct 14, 2008 12:32:04 GMT -5
Furthermore. I don't remember Serb crying,. You dont remember them because you are a Serb who thinks his own chit does not stink so there is no point arguying with you. Well the world has Serb cryings on picture. All those demonstration in Belgrade: "NATO please stop bombing us." " NATO please stop killing our children". Ironic isnt it when somebody gives you a taste of you own medicine. - If the U.S. was actually bombing military targets it should have focused on troops already in Kosovo. Why would they play tit for tat when they can capitalize the country through destroying its economy. Industries, bridges, water dams. More effective!! Then provide these pcitures. Honestly, you f**king don't even provide pictures yet you claim they exist. The closest thing that comes in a google search is the following:
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Post by fannoli on Oct 14, 2008 12:48:08 GMT -5
They are all over internet you idiot. Im not going to search for pictures in Google just to prove that point. Here is a story of a "AUSSIE girl" Named oh wait a minute DUSANKA southmovement.alphalink.com.au/southnews/990412-SYD_demo.htmSome pictures Stop the War" - Aleksandar Djordjevic, Yugoslav national basketball selection captain Please NATO stop the strike: Dragan Stojkovic, Yugoslav football national team captain NATO please dont give us same treatment as we did others. I cant take it. Stop the war.
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Post by radovic on Oct 14, 2008 12:53:17 GMT -5
^ Except no ones crying in those pcitures you posted. And the only vcase you could find of someone crying was some 10 year old girl living in Australia.
Harldy the things you were claiming.
Once again we have to mention that: - Serbia, as the international community has ruled, bares no responsibility to what happenned in Bosnia and thus Croatia -- given that the Bosnian case was much more valid then the other cases. Furthermore, what NATO did in Serbia and to Serbia can not be compared to what Serbs did in Kosovo. - Albanians started the conflict in Kosovo. They oppressed Serbs for decades under Tito and then when the same happenned to them they started complaining to foreign countries to intervene in Serbia. Why is it that Albanians like you love to make this claim about Serbs but then deny Albanians were doing the same.
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Post by fannoli on Oct 14, 2008 12:55:28 GMT -5
Begging to stop the war is a form of crying for help. Where was your mighty Serbian army that defeated NATO jet fighters and then embarrased them because it was so powerful? LOL
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Post by fannoli on Oct 14, 2008 13:01:07 GMT -5
Once again we have to mention that: - Serbia, as the international community has ruled, bares no responsibility to what happenned in Bosnia and thus Croatia -- given that the Bosnian case was much more valid then the other cases. Furthermore, what NATO did in Serbia and to Serbia can not be compared to what Serbs did in Kosovo. - Albanians started the conflict in Kosovo. They oppressed Serbs for decades under Tito and then when the same happenned to them they started complaining to foreign countries to intervene in Serbia. Why is it that Albanians like you love to make this claim about Serbs but then deny Albanians were doing the same.
What am i denying? That we did ask help for NATO to bomb Serbia nobody denies that? As a matter of fact Albanian lobby had been asking for this for a long time.
Secondly, its typical of you to take responsibility away from Serbia for what happened in the Balkans. Whats new?
Do you know whats flawed logic? You opressed us during Tito now we opress you. Thats very flawed. First of all two wrong dont make a right.
Second of all, it starts with a false premise. Nobody mistreated you especially during Tito there was no national campaign of mass murdering from a minority group that was neglected.
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Post by radovic on Oct 14, 2008 13:06:55 GMT -5
Begging to stop the war is a form of crying for help. Where was your mighty Serbian army that defeated NATO jet fighters and then embarrased them because it was so powerful? LOL Lol. Then Albanians must be the biggest gypsy beggards on earth, they were crying "bomb Serbia" for close to 10 years before it happenned. Anyways. Stop the War was a demand, not begging. So by your logic then when Albanian University Students took part in protests in the 90s in Pristina they were begging and not taking demands. Yet Albanians never claim this. Where was our mighty army? Taking on NATO armies who were os brtave that they dropped bombs from over 10km up in the sky instead of facing a ground war. Given that NATO expected us to last less then a week, they gave quite a fight since it lasted close to three months. Where was the KLA? Oh yeah, it was so brave it fled to Albania. ;D
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Post by fannoli on Oct 14, 2008 13:13:20 GMT -5
NATO didnt get a scratch out of war with Serbia. For NATO it was an experiment to test their missiles and accuracy capabilities. Few injuries such as an accidental plane crash in Albania but nothing serious. In other words it was a joke.
If it wanted with full force NATO couldve made you like Nagasaki in a matter of 1 hour let alone 3 months. It had to bomb bridges and industries and non-civilian areas to save image for its organization.
Dont forget in the ranks of organization there were countries like Greece whose public opinion was opposed to such a war.
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Post by radovic on Oct 14, 2008 13:18:25 GMT -5
NATO didnt get a scratch out of war with Serbia. For NATO it was an experiment to test their missiles and accuracy capabilities. Few injuries such as an accidental plane crash in Albania but nothing serious. In other words it was a joke. If it wanted with full force NATO couldve made you like Nagasaki in a matter of 1 hour let alone 3 months. It had to bomb bridges and industries and non-civilian areas to save image for its organization. Dont forget in the ranks of organization there were countries like Greece whose public opinion was opposed to such a war. You mean it had to show they did not over exaggerate how fast it would take Serbia to succumb to it's diktats.
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