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Post by lucas on Oct 17, 2008 11:54:56 GMT -5
^^ Yea Luka is an atypical Albanian name outside of the Malsia Catholic region, I have heard a few Lucaj last names, but, again, they are from the Catholic north. Thanks! Do they speak gegë in the north, right? And Lucë, Luc, and LLuci are atypical outside the north? I found these names in the toskë speaking area. As names, surnames and toponyms. Example: Mal Lucë www.indexmundi.com/z/?lat=40.0666667&lon=19.95&t=m&r=200&p=mal_luce&cc=al&c=albaniaMal |
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Post by lucas on Oct 17, 2008 12:08:21 GMT -5
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Post by meltdown711 on Oct 17, 2008 12:38:39 GMT -5
Yep.
As a surname, its possibly that a person who came from the Mount Luce area received the surname from the area of his origin. I have very rarely heard of an Albanian surname containing a double L. And apparently I heard the names wrong. What kind of c is there in the Lluci? A heavy ç as in chaste or the lighter c (almost a ts).
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Oct 17, 2008 12:39:23 GMT -5
Luqan in Albanian means person that cry  . |
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Post by lucas on Oct 17, 2008 13:27:07 GMT -5
I think that albanian name Lukan is name that derivated and comes from animal UK (Ujk) which means Wolf. We have many people in albania that have name Luka for male and Luke or Lukie for females. Also there in Albania many people names and surnames are UKA or UJKAJ. (Wolf Lupo-Lupa) You're right! There are two possible explanations for Luka (and maybe others). Lukas/Lucas from proto-indoeuropean *Leuk (through Leukos/Loukas...) =light Lukas/Lucas from ulk (albanian), lykos (greek), vrkas (sanscrit), vluku (ancient slavic)... from PIE *wlqwos/*lukwos =wolf In latin Lucus means "sacred grove", and this word is connected to both of them: wolves live in the grove; in the sacred grove sacrifices were performed around a fire (light) or at the first light rays from sun (light).  www.etymonline.com/wolf.phpwww.etymonline.com/index.php?term=wolf |
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Post by lucas on Oct 17, 2008 13:46:01 GMT -5
Yep. As a surname, its possibly that a person who came from the Mount Luce area received the surname from the area of his origin. I have very rarely heard of an Albanian surname containing a double L. And apparently I heard the names wrong. What kind of c is there in the Lluci? A heavy ç as in chaste or the lighter c (almost a ts). I guess "ç". In Albanian, normally do you pronouce "C" like a "K" or "Z"? |
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Oct 17, 2008 13:48:13 GMT -5
Quote: =================================== In the hittite language "lukezi" means "bright". =================================== Hittitet are Albanian people from Hani Hotit in North West Albania. There is not any albanian word lukezi that means bright. Maybe lukezi means dark wolf. (uku i zi) L-uk-e-zi Uk+e+zi Uk=Wolf e=is zi=dark Quote: ========================== Celtic people have a God called Lug ========================== Celtic (Druids) people are venetian and venetians are Mysians origin that have speaking messapians which today is Alb-Illyrian modern language. Lug in albanian means Spoon and that is big thing but that finds meaning only in Albanian God's speaking Language. Cheers Myself, Universal God Lord Of Albania Sun_MYSUS Christ !!!!! |
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Post by rex362 on Oct 17, 2008 13:56:40 GMT -5
In latin Lucus (lucus, luci) means "sacred grove", and this word is connected to both of them: wolves live in the grove; in the sacred grove sacrifices were performed around a fire (light) or at the first light rays from sun (light).
thats kind of weird like ...
my half side Luke clan has a designated job (for many generations) of keeping a candle lit 24/7 at a kind of fountains that is religious/sacred like.and its in a grove like setting of the foot of a small mountain also they use to maintain a small Church nearby it ... even though they are Muslims today
...and the Church and fountain has some kind of connection
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Oct 17, 2008 14:00:37 GMT -5
Might be Luke Baluke. Baluke is pure albanian word that means forelock same Sarah Palin  . |
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Post by meltdown711 on Oct 17, 2008 14:09:46 GMT -5
Like neither, its like a 'ts', it appears in Slavic as well. But its closer to 'z'
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Oct 17, 2008 14:14:38 GMT -5
Slavic is pure Albanian word
which means cow that is not washes ;D.
Sla+vic
S'la=not washed
vic=cow
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Post by partialfractions on Oct 17, 2008 14:19:51 GMT -5
As a surname, its possibly that a person who came from the Mount Luce area received the surname from the area of his origin. I have very rarely heard of an Albanian surname containing a double L. And apparently I heard the names wrong. What kind of c is there in the Lluci? A heavy ç as in chaste or the lighter c (almost a ts). I have ancestor with the last name Lluka. If I remember correctly they were from Puka.(hey I rhymed) |
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Oct 17, 2008 15:25:53 GMT -5
When the egg fermented or is out expired date
we Albanians call that process Lluke egg means
not for use or eat. (veze lluk)
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Post by malsor4life on Oct 17, 2008 22:12:08 GMT -5
Lucas, why are u asking all these questions anyway ? Are u tracing ur ancestors and think ur part Albanian ?
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Post by donnie on Oct 18, 2008 6:43:13 GMT -5
Hi lucas.
You need to differentiate between the two names; Luka among Albanian names is of the same origin as your Italian Luca, the English Luke or Germanic Lukas. It is of Christian origins and I highly doubt it comes from Albanian 'ulk' (wolf) as we already have such names related to that animal, such as Ukë, Ukshin, Ujkan etc.
Luc, on the others hand, is pronounced 'Luts', or as the touble 'z' in Italian, e.g. pizza. This probably comes from Latin Lucius, and cannot come from 'ulk' because 'c' in our language is pronounced as 'ts'.
Both of these names are restricted to Catholic Albanians of the highlands and Kosova, which further testifies to their Roman-Catholic origins. We laos have two other similiar sounding names; Leka, which is a diminutive of Alexander, and Lika which many think is the modern version of an ancient Illyrian name, Licca.
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Post by Arxileas on Oct 18, 2008 8:16:22 GMT -5
donnie show us a link of this Roman-Catholic origins...Or see my post which has an answer with proof of it's Greek origins at page one...
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Post by Arxileas on Oct 18, 2008 8:44:06 GMT -5
English form of the Greek name Λουκας (Loukas) which meant "from Lucania", Lucania being a region in Italy. Or the Etymology; Luke Look up Luke at Dictionary.com masc. proper name, from L. Lucas (Gk. Loukas), contraction of Lucanus lit. "of Lucania," district in Lower Italy, home of the Lucani, a branch of the Sabelline race. www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=Loukas&searchmode=nlLIICANIA. encyclopedia.jrank.org/LEO_LOB/LIICANIA.htmlBoth of these names are restricted to Catholic Albanians of the highlands and Kosova, which further testifies to their Roman-Catholic origins. We laos have two other similiar sounding names; Leka, which is a diminutive of Alexander, and Lika which many think is the modern version of an ancient Illyrian name, Licca. No mention of any connection with the Illyrians on this ? How did you make this connection  Maybe I am missing something |
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Post by meltdown711 on Oct 18, 2008 15:54:40 GMT -5
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Post by Arxileas on Oct 18, 2008 17:53:42 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Oct 18, 2008 18:14:26 GMT -5
we know ^
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