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Post by vinjak on Dec 31, 2008 23:09:31 GMT -5
Loose trading partners only.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Dec 31, 2008 23:43:33 GMT -5
I can easily see a Balkan union occurring in the future (especially if it means getting a bigger voice within EU or if EU collapses then almost it is a certainty). The BU creation and thus inclusion would consist of several waves. Waves are depicted bellow by priority. 1st or initial wave would consist of countries such as Montenegro, Serbia, FYROM, Romania, Bulgaria and Greece which are almost certain to be members of such a union (if it was to ever exist). 2nd wave (probable) would consist of including Albania, Bosnia & Hercegovina and Moldova. 3rd wave is including Croatia. 4th and final wave would be including Turkey. (3rd and 4th wave are questionable in terms of probability)Bellow is a map of such an idea 1st wave population is around 53 million people (almost like France, UK or Italy population numbers) 1st +2nd wave population is around 64 million people (more then France, UK or Italy population numbers) 1st + 2nd + 3rd wave population is around 69 million (closer to Germany's numbers) 1+2+3+4 wave population is around (staggering) 140 million (almost Russia's population numbers) Such union (in any of the forms above) would have a much larger say in running their own affairs and much larger (political, economical, military etc) influence in surrounding regions and even world affairs not to mention that it would mutually benefit all on so many levels. I say it is almost certainty that BU will exist in the future in whatever form (whether within EU or outside it). It is either having such a union and having your own say or remain virtual colonies without say to bigger world powers (Russia, current Germany-France axis that runs EU, UK and US) as the situation is obviously now. Being in such a union doesn't mean losing ones say but actually gaining it.
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Post by wbb on Jan 1, 2009 0:29:59 GMT -5
Admin, u put Romania, Croatia, Moldova right? what about Hungary? since our mentality and behaviour is balkan because of many balkan immigrants like south slavic, albanians, romanians have lived in Hungary and brought balkan athmosphere with them.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 1, 2009 0:42:52 GMT -5
wbb I thought about it and actually I forgat to include it. I think Hungary might go together with Croatia (3rd wave) so I will modify the map. 1st wave population is around 53 million people (almost like France, UK or Italy population numbers) 1st +2nd wave population is around 64 million people (more then France, UK or Italy population numbers) 1st + 2nd + 3rd wave population is around 79 million (almost like Germany's numbers) 1+2+3+4 wave population is around (staggering) 150 million (a bit above Russia's population numbers)
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Post by SKORIC on Jan 1, 2009 1:12:40 GMT -5
I think if it were gonna happen only the 1st wave would join and the others wouldnt want to. Dunno.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 1, 2009 2:13:20 GMT -5
I am gonna give this topic announcement status (which makes it visible in all forums and also immune of moderation) to I can get other forums responses on this issue and after that remove the status and move it to Balkan Forum.
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Post by kapetan on Jan 1, 2009 3:46:33 GMT -5
Nah not Hungary...not Moldova...the f**k is a moldova anyway...i mean i know what it is but...i just have no clue about it since its never mentioned in the balkans...ever..in anything significant...those countries just dont cut it balkan wise...too far away from the rest of us lol
even romania isnt always included....so those are all optional....
BUT for the sake of more power ..the more the better i guess....
But just imagine...imagine the military badassery we would have....soldier wise....we are all beasts....put us together....we'd assrape anyone in a land war
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Post by SKORIC on Jan 1, 2009 6:47:32 GMT -5
We wouldnt even have to send our whole army. Just 300 Greeks from Sparta will do, while we sit back and watch like the lazy balkanians we are.
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Post by fazlinho on Jan 1, 2009 8:18:25 GMT -5
I can't believe some 18+ members really think something like this can happen.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Jan 1, 2009 8:22:04 GMT -5
I think if it were gonna happen only the 1st wave would join and the others wouldnt want to. Dunno. rs would follow serbia
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 1, 2009 11:58:50 GMT -5
1st wave would be the 1st wave. RS would not be encouraged to join at the inception of BU but with the rest of B&H (2nd wave) to avoid unnecessary complications with the west (as BU would not have been yet cemented as an entity). Again considering that B&H would be joining BU with a high probability there is not need for RS to make separate moves. Moldova (perhaps even if initially joining BU without tiny Transdnestr as we need strong relationship with emerging Russia as well as others) is basically another Romanian state and it would almost most certainly join BU as would Albania and B&H in the 2nd wave. 3rd wave I see as questionable as well as 4th wave. PS: Better believe there is people supporting this idea and if properly presented there would be a lot more as it offers far more benefits then it doesn't (in today's geopolitics bigger is most certainly better while small equals bondage). ----------------- A) 1st wave population is around 53 million people (almost like France, UK or Italy population numbers) B) 1st +2nd wave population is around 64 million people (more then France, UK or Italy population numbers) C) 1st + 2nd + 3rd wave population is around 79 million (almost like Germany's numbers) D) 1+2+3+4 wave population is around (staggering) 150 million (a bit above Russia's population numbers)
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