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Post by highduke on Jan 7, 2009 16:42:55 GMT -5
If you want me to finish translating, then stop provoking me by posting, because Im doing it right f.ucking now, d!ck
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Post by donnie on Jan 7, 2009 16:43:53 GMT -5
Hahahahahahaha. So funny to annoy you. Ajde, mrs and translate gedjo.
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Post by highduke on Jan 7, 2009 16:46:04 GMT -5
Dont make me post 'the link that wont go away' lol
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Post by donnie on Jan 7, 2009 17:40:03 GMT -5
This one? www.gay-serbia.com/queer/musicki-lukijan/index.jspHey, translate this song for us, O highpicka o; Pesma Rada turski rob prvi je poznati eksplicitan pomen homoseksualnih odnosa u srpskom pesništvu. RADA TURSKI ROB"More, Rade, kako ti je?" Pita neko turskog roba. Odgovara: "Dobro mi je Do današnjeg jošte doba. Još pri zore prvom svjetu Staknem oganj i razžarim, Da æeaji Mehemetu Baš iz Moke kavu varim Posle kave na koljeni Dam mu èibuk s æilibarom, Okom, rukom mane l' meni, Agam svim i tefterdarom. Potom rukam prekrštenim Na ceaju gledajuci, Vratom, kicmom savijenom, Stojim ukaz cekajuci. 'Var dot, Rade!' kad mi rekne, Odma mu se ja navernem, Kleknem, za mnom i on klekne, Šcepa me da ne posrnem. Ðot umašten kad izdere, Peškir, ibrik, legen pružim Da s' obriše kad s' opere - Cetir pare ja zaslužim. A da ropstvo men' zasladim, Jad me roba ne satare, Kadunu ja pervu gradim, I po cetir dob'jem pare. Zazove l' me druga bula, Odaliska ili kade, Bio b' kurvin sin i hula Da ne primim cto mi s' dade. Šerbetom me svaka poji, Rani masnim i pilavom, A po cetir pare broji. Da tek necu platit' glavom?" - "O, ne boj se, Rade, rode, I Turci su prosvješteni, S robljem jer se oni svode, A kroz prste glede ženi."
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Post by donnie on Jan 7, 2009 17:41:15 GMT -5
Or maybe this poem suits highduke's more vulgar side;
LEPO DRUŠTVO
Sastalo se lepo društvo pa se razgovara, Mladi momci i devojke kojim' nema para: Kurac, kura, kurèekanja i malo kurèence, Pièka, pizda, pizdurina i dve male pice, Debeli kum krivi kurac, pizdurina kuma, Dva devera dva kicoša, pica i kitica; Oni sede za astalom, pak provode šalu.
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Post by highduke on Jan 7, 2009 18:03:03 GMT -5
LOL those are poems written by Lukijan Musicki in the 19th century, even the caption above the poem 'Rada Turski Rob' says that this poem 'is the first mention of homosexual relations in Serbian Poetry' lol go console your shame with some lord byron lol
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Post by donnie on Jan 7, 2009 18:10:56 GMT -5
Oh yeah, "just an ordinary" poem, lol. Tell me, is it Rade who is getting "pierced" by the Turk or vice-versa? This Musicki guy must have had a Turkish fetish.
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Post by highduke on Jan 7, 2009 18:17:46 GMT -5
Or a eurochechen fetish, whateva - your gay site even makes it clear that the 19th century was the earliest mention of homosexuality among Serbs - by a single poet, not as an accepted socio-cultural phenomenon up until the 1950s like Albanian Pederasty
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Post by donnie on Jan 7, 2009 19:10:22 GMT -5
Not mine, Yours. It specifically deals with "Gej Srbija" lol.
I'll judge for myself as I translate the text with a relative of mine.
Meanwhile, answer this; if pederasty was a "socio-cultural phenomenon up until the 1950s" amidst Albanians, only to be "repressed by the communism of Enver Hoxha", then why did it dissappear among Kosovar Albanians? There was no Hoxha to repress our "pederasty" -- did Tito do it? Where is the evidence then? I highly doubt communist Serbs who largely governed Kosova under the umbrella of Tito, would have thought of "Albanian pederasty" as something worthy of attention; on the contrary, it would have been a source of laughter and propaganda. If anything, Serbs would have sought to encourage it, much like you would like, in vain, to encourage religious extremism in our midst.
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Post by rebelyell on Jan 7, 2009 20:12:23 GMT -5
LOL @ highdouche. Homosexuality was totally entrenched in Ottoman life, and it isn't surprising that it carried over into a handful of places that were totally immersed in Ottoman culture like Janina, Gjirokaster, and Elbasan, mainly amongst the Ottomanized Muslim upper class (please don't spout off about the "vellameria" thing, there was never anything gay about it and it was never done by a priest...). You know those Russian Aryans you have wet dreams about? Totally gay: "Medieval Russia was known for its tolerance towards homosexuality and how widespread it was. As well as other forms of homosexuality, pederasty was very common. The beardless youth was seen as alternative to women, and shaving was seen as an invitation to sodomy for men. The banyas, traditional Russian-style bath houses in particular were places were men would go and have sex with teenage boys who worked there and beat the men with birch branches, and rubbed their backs. [73] Later on, from the 18th-century onwards, the bath houses still thrived and cadet schools and the Page Corps and Imperial School of Jurisprudence were hotbeds of homosexual activity between the boys. Russia's laws were very leniant compared to those of Western Europe in that homosexuality was made illegal for soldiers at the beginning of the 18th century and was made illegal for the rest of society in the 1830s and even then, the new laws were not strictly inforced, and at the end of the 19th century, St. Petersburg had a thriving gay scene." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty#EuropeKeep in mind gays are not exactly accepted today. If there were any flamboyant ones running around in Prishtina or Tirana I can't imagine they would last long (so you better stay away and keep your fetishes private). Not to mention any pedophiles would get torn to pieces on the spot...
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Post by highduke on Jan 7, 2009 20:13:47 GMT -5
rebelyell, the Russian Ped article gives as its ONLY source a pro-Gay propaganda book, get serious. donnie, the Tito regime did repress homosexuality, either way, such Turk-derived customs would have been discouraged in Kosovo as early as the League of Prizren, when KosAlbs' fetish with everything Turkish would have gone out of style but that movement was not ubiquitous in Albania, where Albanian Pederasty lasted 75 years longer than in Kosovo.
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Post by Pejoni on Jan 7, 2009 20:42:52 GMT -5
HD, so you have gay friends in Serbia?
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Post by highduke on Jan 7, 2009 21:04:22 GMT -5
Figures an Albanian would ask me
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Post by libofshe on Jan 8, 2009 3:26:07 GMT -5
ok, this is no longer funny, this dude is clearly delusional and has mental health issues...it wouldn't surprise me if he indeed believes he's actually putting together a research that is worthy of consideration, i'll read it anyway just for the sheer commical value content of it all but on a more serious note we should not take the piss out of mentally unfit people though...its just not cool
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Post by highduke on Jan 8, 2009 7:57:19 GMT -5
If a glossary of dozens of cognates, a list of hnudreds of common toponyms & medieval documentation are not enough to set your evil, corrupt, eurochechen mind straight, then the problem is with you, not me: you cant accept reality.
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Post by libofshe on Jan 8, 2009 8:21:39 GMT -5
just publish whatever you have so far...am i led to believe you have the english version, give us a peak
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Post by highduke on Jan 8, 2009 8:36:07 GMT -5
You'll get your peek but when your a biased idiot you will make the chepest, most nebulous remarks to deliberately cloud others' judgement & your own, just like a mental patient, insisting that his delusions are real because Reality puts you in an existential double-bind & creates a sense of ontological insecurity that makes you neurotic
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Post by kasso on Jan 8, 2009 9:03:03 GMT -5
highduke,
you just described yourself, you mentally defected idiot ;D
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Post by highduke on Jan 8, 2009 9:19:19 GMT -5
No, I described the alb reaction to my research but it also applies to Serbo-chechen hybrids like yourself whose lack of a firm identity magnifies the neurosis described above
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Post by kasso on Jan 8, 2009 9:31:03 GMT -5
you need therapy, seriously
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