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Post by highduke on Nov 21, 2008 19:45:41 GMT -5
Yeah albanian has IE structure & vocabulary which ynur ancestors absorbed through their migrations but enough of its vocabulary is Ibero-Caucasian to pinpoint alb ethnogenesis to the Caucasus
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Post by highduke on Nov 21, 2008 19:51:55 GMT -5
Franz Bopp didnt have a glossary of several hundred albo-chechen synonyms. I do. Albanian IE characteristics were aquired through assimilation, the original language was related to chechen. wait till New Year's Eve to read my research & deal with the anticipation.
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Post by rex362 on Nov 21, 2008 20:15:55 GMT -5
Yeah albanian has IE structure & vocabulary
we are remnants of The Pelagians which later Illyrian and now Albanian
any IE ithat is common in Alb vocabulary is any Pelasgian that was exported outward toward IE speakers ....
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Post by highduke on Nov 21, 2008 20:41:54 GMT -5
But that doesn't explain the hundreds of albo-chechen synonyms, so its obviously BS, rex.
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Post by rex362 on Nov 21, 2008 20:46:39 GMT -5
^ Unacceptable BS
Highduke lets see your report/research of where serbs come from .
examine yourself before you examine your wants and needs of where/who/why anything Albanian ....
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Post by rex362 on Nov 21, 2008 21:10:14 GMT -5
Help me prove Alb-Chechen linguistic connection
HELP ? your gonna need lots of help with much creative bs
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Post by kapetan on Nov 21, 2008 21:25:54 GMT -5
I wonder what would happen if you proved Albanians are relaed to Chechens. Would this somehow make you feel great? Would it change ANYTHING? And is it shameful to be related to Chechens? They are cool peoples.
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Post by captainalbania on Nov 21, 2008 21:28:24 GMT -5
No shit?
Smarter people than you have already done the research on our language. But, you go ahead and try to find these imaginary words. Give me the work too ill look it over, and the name of this "Professor". I could help you translate the Albanian words since you don't speak the language.
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Post by rex362 on Nov 21, 2008 21:38:54 GMT -5
ok I will play Highduke ...
I found these Chechen words and they do sound Albanian like
- Vrima e bythes e hajdukut esht katror-
shta to snazci ?
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Post by ilirdardani on Nov 21, 2008 23:07:46 GMT -5
I reopened it. I will clear 'noise' (non-related replies) out. related videos Albanian and Chechenian Language Similarity Albanians Came From Caucasus Mountains Albanians Came From Caucasus Mountains (place-names) You're helping the cause, so much, you're a chetnik just like them.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Nov 21, 2008 23:24:16 GMT -5
Cause. Yeah you cracked the carefully conspired conspiracy. LOL Kane wanted to know more about it and he wasn't getting the info and hence why I posted those videos (I was gonna post the list of words I came across once but I wasn't able to find them). I don't know much about this topic to make a decision one way or another. Personally I believe that proto-albanian language bearers were most likely Dacian Carpi that might explain some similarities between Romanian and Albanian. These people around 1000 years ago (displaced themselves by others) displaced more numerous locals and superimposed their language on them. Thus linguistically dacianized Hellenistic Illyrians and Epirotes or dacianized Hellenes (you are not genetically and culturally most akin to Greeks for no reason). Their fate (as the fate of all the free Dacians in general) is still a matter of debate to historians. Probably some of these free Dacians retreated into the heavily forested areas of the Carpathians, and together with the Daco-Romanians later formed the Romanian people; some may have been either slavicized (it has been suggested several times that the Hutsuls of southern Ukraine and Bukovina may have been, in part, Slavicized free Dacians), assimilated by some migrating people (like the Goths), or that they eventually migrated southward and that they could be the ancestors of Albanians. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpians"Linguists such as Vladimir Georgiev have concluded that the phonology of the Dacian language is close to that of Albanian. " "Apart from linguistic theory that Albanian is more akin to eastern Romance (i.e. Dacian substrate) than western Roman (with Illyrian substrate- such as Dalmatian), Georgiev also notes that marine words in Albanian are borrowed from other languages, suggesting that Albanians were not originally a coastal people (as the Illyrians were). The absence of many Greek loan words also supports a Dacian theory - if Albanians originated in the region of Illyria there would surely be a heavy Greek influence." "The Dacian theory could also be consistent with the known patterns of barbarian incursions. Although there is no documentation of an Albanian migration (in fact there is no documentation of Albanians per se until the 11th century) the Morava valley region adjacent to Dacia was most heavily affected by migrations, thus making it plausible for its indigenous population to flee to, for example, the relative safety of mountainous northern Albania." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_Albanians#Thracian_or_Dacian_origin
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Post by highduke on Nov 22, 2008 10:26:54 GMT -5
Aadmin, the Carpi are just one of the IE groups the proto-Albs assimilated, but the original bearers of Shqipetar culture, language & identity are a non-IE speaking chechen-like tribe. Gorstak & captainalbania, proving alb descent from them has a whole range of political & historical implications that I will exploit once I've finished the research before the New Year & added it to all the other research on my website.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Nov 22, 2008 11:28:53 GMT -5
I came across two days ago this book on google and Albania went through so many phases such as; - Barbarian invasion - Serb and Bulgar rule - Norman rule ( mentions Norman families moving there), - Crusaders magnet (Durres) - Major battleground between west and east ( with numerous, some non-balkan, nations assisting west or east) Also, what about this Koman culture in 7-8-9-10th century? (It apearred somewhat related to earlier primitive pagan illyrians ( pagan illyrians NEAR COAST at that age while being next to Rome and Constantinople for at least several hundred years? Sounds weird?) without clear connection to later Albanians)link
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Post by highduke on Nov 22, 2008 12:51:20 GMT -5
Interesting. I'll use that material in my research. Thanks, Aadmin. The albs are the most diversely hybridized people in Europe: proto-chechens from the Caucasus mixed with Carpians, Dardanians, Slavs, Serboi, Vlachs, Greeks & Serbianized Illyrians & their language reflects their ethnogenesis.
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Post by ilirdardani on Nov 22, 2008 12:52:37 GMT -5
You know that you're not making any sense right chetnik emperor?
Albanians are Illyrians, simple as that, Greeks were always here just like us, so we're connected with them.
As for the Slavs, they migrated in early 6th or 7th century. Do more research on your past emperor, and understand that you're big time brothers with the Ruski and Chechens, and Siberians, etc.
I hope that you're 18 years or younger and not 30+ old dude, embarrassing yourself with these accusations. It's a shame you're an admin and doing this really.
SRAMOTA
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Post by highduke on Nov 22, 2008 13:35:43 GMT -5
None of that is true. Go to the links in my sig, click on Origin of the Serbs' & read the chapter on Albanians, where you'll see scanned pages from books by dozens of Western & Albanian scholars & translations of ancient chronicles that prove Albanians are neither anatomically, culturaly or linguisticaly related to Illyrians, who were actualy Romanized & later Serbianized. If I wasn't typing from my cell, I'd just copy & paste it for you.
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Post by captainalbania on Nov 23, 2008 1:19:46 GMT -5
I apologize if i misrepresented Aadmin. I thought he had seen and agreed with the videos. Obviously he hasn't and does not agree.
His Carpian Theory is interesting, however.
Highduke is obviously full of chit. Since his own language is probably more related to Chechen than Albanian is since Slavs and Chechens are neighbors, and his ancestors (Serboi) came from the caucaus and probably had more contact with Chechens than Albs did.
Highduke if i understand your theory correctly it is this.
Although Albanian structure and phonology is Indo-European, our original language is Chechen because we just magically switched to an Indo-European language when we came here. Also we took the choiciest bit of land with a coastline and left the Serbs with no coast?
Either that or the serbs, being deathly afraid of water left the entire coast of Albania unoccupied and we just snuck in all sneaky like under the radar and took it, cause all shiptars are thieves and bandits right?
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Post by highduke on Nov 23, 2008 18:49:47 GMT -5
Sorry captain albania, the chechen alcnian glossary im preparing proves that carpians are one piece of the puzzle.
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Post by Duke John on Nov 23, 2008 19:42:05 GMT -5
Highduke how long you been working on proving Albanians as non balkanians/europeans? Anatolian, Arabians, Caucasians, wtf? have you make your mind already? ^^that quote of Einstein describes you so perfectly!
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Post by kasso on Nov 23, 2008 19:43:58 GMT -5
AAdmin,
We inherited the Dacian words from the Romanians (Vlach people) through social and cultural mingling, intermarriages och assimilation.
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