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Post by jerryspringer on Feb 8, 2009 22:18:27 GMT -5
nyugodjék békében... Kozma Nyugodj békében. Translation, please?
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Post by yeni on Feb 8, 2009 22:36:50 GMT -5
szõröstalpu wrote "nyugodjék békében" = "rest in peace" in third person singular i.e. "he" (Cozma) rest in peace.
shonic wrote "nyugodj békében" 2nd person singular -> "you" (szõröstalpu) rest in peace.
dont provoke each other here pls, there are other topics for that köszi hvala multumesc
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Post by wbb on Feb 9, 2009 0:24:25 GMT -5
That is fukin barbaric and uncivilised. What does these handball players got to do with politics? Rest in Peace, Marian Cozma. You surely was brave and innocent person that took all the risk to come to Hungary and doing your job playing handball, then some idiot use you as a target. You surely are Martyr who sacrifice for anything you wanted, May God curse these murderers and grant you justice on the day of Judgement to come, i hope you are safe and happy where ever you are. CATCHER IN THE RYE, you are no longer can post on this thread, since you are trolling and causing conflicts at this mourning moment on someone's death. From now on all post from you will either be edited or deleted.
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Post by wbb on Feb 9, 2009 1:45:10 GMT -5
From Kuruc.info Website. All about Sztojka Ivan's iwiw profile and pictures. www.kuruc.info/r/35/34939/Errm yes, Level100 is right about what said. Zarko Sesum apja 300 volt katonával jön a cigányok ellen! A kegyetlen, indokolatlan gyilkosság áldozatává lett Marian Cozma csapattársának, a szintén élet-halál között levõ Zarko Sesum szerb kézilabdázónak édesapja komoly erõkkel tart Veszprémbe, hogy bosszút álljon a fián esett könyörtelen támadáson.
A kézilabdázó édesapjának tulajdonában van Szerbia legnagyobb vagyonvédelmi és testõrcége, mely jelentõs testõrállománnyal rendelkezik. A cég korábbi katonákból - a hírhedt bosnyák-, horvát- és magyargyilkos Arkan testõreibõl - verbuvált tagjai felkészített és a gyilkos cigányokhoz hasonlóan kegyetlen emberek. Ezekbõl állított össze egy 300 fõs bandériumot a felháborodott szülõ, hogy megbosszulja fiát. Mindehhez társul, hogy Szerbiának egyes területein még mindig dívik a vérbosszú intézménye, ami más megvilágításba helyezi az amúgy jogosan feldúlt édesapa kijelentését: "Azok, akik megtámadták a fiamat nem fognak egykönnyen elmenekülni elõlem. Nem fogok a magyar rendõrségre várni! Háromszáz kommandóssal megyek a fiam támadóiért."www.kuruc.info/r/35/34894/Serbian Chetniks is more than welcome to Hungary to execute those extremist Gypo for attacking innocent Serb player, i hope those Serbs will deal with those Cigany behaviour and make those Gypsies a scared chitless in Hungary and bring peace through out Hungary once again. Even if i hate those Serb extremist, i still support them as it is their job to revenge and show that Serb's blood is not cheap.
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Post by yeni on Feb 9, 2009 11:32:35 GMT -5
So two suspects are captured now, both of them escaped to Austria, Raffael Sándor (some news says according to the cameras he stabbed Cozma) and a certain N. Gyõzõ. The police is still searching Sztojka Iván
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Post by taqarin on Feb 9, 2009 18:07:15 GMT -5
I don't like this all-across-the-nation mourning. It simply means that in these times of crisis an ethnic group (the romas) was identified as the imagined enemy just because an isolated case. This looks to much like the Germany of the 1930s... hope EU will be able to stop a disaster
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Post by lvl100 on Feb 10, 2009 0:04:31 GMT -5
I don't like this all-across-the-nation mourning. It simply means that in these times of crisis an ethnic group (the romas) was identified as the imagined enemy just because an isolated case. This looks to much like the Germany of the 1930s... hope EU will be able to stop a disaster UE is nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. It lectured us about how to protect and integrate the gypsy blaming their poor status to the rest of population. It send a zillion of NGOs and commissars , to enforce its create positive discrimination. But when the gypsies migrated to UE, they all started to cry : take them back ! take them back !, and proposed nazi-like solution like in Italy. How about to practice what you preach biatches ?
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Post by yeni on Feb 10, 2009 2:58:49 GMT -5
security camera record before the death of Marian Cozma
one of the suspects
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Post by yeni on Feb 10, 2009 5:11:56 GMT -5
After the city council's decision Marian Cozma became a honorable citizen of Veszprém.
His body will be taken to Bucharest today and the Hun press says his burial will be there on Saturday.
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Post by lvl100 on Feb 10, 2009 6:12:06 GMT -5
There were voices that claimed that would ruin Hungarian-Romanian relations.
But i didnt find anything close to that in mass-media. And on the main Romanian forums there is a huge uproar against gypsies (and sympathy for how Hungarians overall reacted to this problem), some even express their hope that Magyar Garda will take more action.
If it wasnt this tragedy, it would be almost funny how 2 nations are united in front of a commune enemy.
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Post by yeni on Feb 10, 2009 11:17:07 GMT -5
Afternoon hundreds offered their condolences in Szeged (the main rival of the Veszprém handball team) and as i heard Romanian fans waited his coffin in the Romanian side of the border. I have much repsect for Marian's father even after this big tragedy he had the will power to do this long memorials in Veszprém, Szeged then in Romania and he also said nice things about Veszprém and the team. the Veszprem handball team decided the no. 8 shirt (that was his number in the team) will be reserved for ever to Marian and nobody will use it in the future. Its clearly seen in the security camera record that Marian Cozma was first stabbed in his back, just like the Croat dude Ivan Pesic was also stabbed in the back. these murderers are nothing but coward subhumans. These times i start to miss the death penalty. theres 1 million HUF reward on the head of that Sztojka Ivan who is still hiding.
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Post by Catcher in the Rye on Feb 10, 2009 11:45:13 GMT -5
EDITED. [glow=red,2,300]Speaking crap about Hungarians and trying to disrupt the mourning moment of Cozma.[/glow]
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Post by yeni on Feb 10, 2009 12:07:51 GMT -5
this is true i agree, the local roma minority government in veszprem also asked the murderers to give themself up.
theres no problem with civilizied romas, only with gypsy subhuman criminals.
And using any weapon is a coward act if u do it against an unarmed person, no matter if its a knife, bat, boxer, gun i think we can agree in that
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Post by wbb on Feb 11, 2009 2:08:00 GMT -5
szorostalpu, plz take it easy. ;D
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Post by lvl100 on Feb 11, 2009 4:33:55 GMT -5
szorostalpu, plz take it easy. ;D Too busy editing the Catcher in the Rye`s posts , no time left for editing other hate posts , like szorosatalpu`s ones , eh ?
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Post by jerryspringer on Feb 11, 2009 6:04:07 GMT -5
I find it disrespectul and distasteful that one must bring this crap to a thread that should not contain hatespeech. All those posts should be removed and reposted in the relevant hate thread.
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Post by yeni on Feb 11, 2009 6:46:30 GMT -5
szorostalpu and aofg lost the right to post in this topic.
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Post by wbb on Feb 12, 2009 0:31:01 GMT -5
Catcher in the Rye have been warned about his inappropriate comment in this thread so he lost his rights from posting in this thread (only). Another thing, a non-moderator shouldnt tell the moderator about his job, u only get so fustrated because i edited a gargabe post written by a Romanian about Hungarians carry knives, this and that, this off-topic farther encourage Szorostalpu to argue back and go as far as talking about Targu Mures and the Moldovans from Aputseni Mountains carrying clubs against Hungarians. Seriously what does this off-topic got to do with Cozma's death? wake up to yourself!!!!
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Post by yeni on Feb 12, 2009 14:06:33 GMT -5
www.caboodle.hu/nc/news/news_archive/single_page/article/11/roma_fear_re/?cHash=0996d6bd45Roma fear retaliation after attack on athletes By: MTI
2009-02-12 11:38 The Roma community in Sarbogard town, W Hungary, is concerned about possible retaliation in the wake of Sunday's stabbing of handball players in Veszprem (W), according to participants of a meeting between local Roma leaders, municipal and police officials on Wednesday.
Sandor Raffael, who is accused mortally wounding Romanian player Marian Cozma, and who was arrested in Austria soon after the stabbing, is a resident of Sarbogard.
Several participants of the forum said the Roma community as a whole should not be blamed for the stabbing, in which two other players also suffered serious injuries.
"Raffael and his accomplices have brought shame upon the Roma," said Peter Lakatos, head of the local Roma authority.other news, the reward for Sztojka Ivan is doubled so now 2 million HUF, yesterday news said that even the secret services are searching him now and the tax authority also started an inquiry on their business. The Serb victim Sesum is now in better condition, possibly he can join team training in the next week. Today university students of Veszprém remembered Cozma. His burial will be tomorrow in Bucharest, there will be live broadcast on the Duna TV.
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Post by lvl100 on Feb 12, 2009 14:21:04 GMT -5
the reward for Sztojka Ivan is doubled so now 2 million HUF, . How much means that in Euro ?
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