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Post by donnie on Feb 4, 2009 8:29:40 GMT -5
Why should I? Was it not supposed to be "ovah" already? Was the glossary not sufficient to "enlighten" us? Like saying "goodbye forever" and then staying.
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Post by highduke on Feb 4, 2009 8:39:55 GMT -5
Oh, it is OVAH, even without documentation, the hundreds of cognates, toponyms & surnames taken as a whole are too numerous to be coincidental, although they might be, it is extremely unlikely, but you're deluded eurochechens, neuroticaly grasping at straws to fend off the ontological insecurity that comes with being exposed to the ugly truth about your origin
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Post by donnie on Feb 4, 2009 8:46:24 GMT -5
Or maybe the greatest display of pseudo-science and amateurism ever seen in these forums or beyond.
Is this some sublime message you're trying to convey about your own complexes? A cry for help? Just thinking about the fact that your own people's ethnic origin seems to have arisen in that part of the world (Serboi) does make me suspect you. But do not despair, the peoples of Caucasus are humans as well, contrary to what you seem to believe.
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Post by highduke on Feb 4, 2009 8:54:05 GMT -5
Well donnie, at this point you're using rhetoric, your legitimate questioning having been addressed for the 3rd time, so be patient & consider, while you wait for documentation, that even without it, coincidence is impossible simply due to the numerosity of the samples & the diversity of their typology
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Post by donnie on Feb 4, 2009 9:01:33 GMT -5
What rhetoric? See the explanations and arguments written above your nonsense replies. You do not adress them because you can't.
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Post by highduke on Feb 4, 2009 9:06:12 GMT -5
ok
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Post by kasso on Feb 4, 2009 9:18:22 GMT -5
Highduke, you have been completely stripped
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Post by highduke on Feb 4, 2009 9:24:14 GMT -5
yeah, according to a a.ss-kissing neurotic half-breed who will say anything just to get the chechens to like him lol Serbs have a word for people like you: pickast
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Post by ilirdardani on Feb 4, 2009 9:32:48 GMT -5
serbs have another word for you, pusi crni kurac, jebem ti majku, sestru i sve sta imas u tvoj zivot.
You seriously need to consider reporting to a mental hospital dude, or even better report to the Hague, and with analyzing you they'll come to the conclusion that there is some kind of disease in Serbia which you currently have, that made thousands of Serbian men kill hundreds of thousands of Boshniak, Kroat, and Shqiptar. You still suffer from it dumb bitch.
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Post by donnie on Feb 4, 2009 9:41:36 GMT -5
That the suffix 'ayev' (and not just 'ev') is a russification, as above examples illustrated, is proven by the fact that it is also present amidst the Azeris, a Turkic people speaking a Turkic language unrelated to Chechen or any other of the non-Indoeuropean language isolates found in the massif of Caucasus.
An example is the name of Chingiz Mustafayev -- an amateur like highdyke might connect this to Mustafaj, which is an Albanian surname (e.g. Besnik Mustafaj, former foreign minister of Albania). Yet while the former is an example of continuous russification of Azeri and Chechen surnames, the latter is an old Albanian tradition dating way back, signifying brotherhoods. These brotherhoods were like smaller clans, forming a unit known as vëllazëri (Serbian equivalent was a bratstvo) which consisted of several brothers or near related males who stood up for each other in times of emergency. It was originally written and pronounced 'anj' -- thus we have an old Arbëresh brotherhood known as Dhimitranj, from 'Dhimitër'.
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Post by ilirdardani on Feb 4, 2009 9:44:41 GMT -5
He won't get it donnie, but hopefully the rest read it and try and understand.
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Post by donnie on Feb 4, 2009 9:49:33 GMT -5
Another "etymological breakdown" I want to dissect is highdyke's analysis of the surname Dedvukaj.
As the looney scholar that he is, he goes only by similiar sounds, not analyzing beyond. He tries to explain the first part through the Serbian word for grandfather, the poor guy missing out on the fact that Deda is a common Albanian name & surname, unrelated to the Serbian word for the male grandparent. This name is probably a variant of Doda, which in turn is a diminutive of Dominic. Examples include the hero Dedë Gjo' Luli, or the current politician Gjergj Deda from Kosova.
The second word he correctly derives from the Serbian name Vuk, which comes from 'vuk' (meaning wolf). Based on this, he jumps to the conclusion that this guy must therefore be (like all Malsors) an "Albanianized Serb", forgetting that peripherical influences in the field of anthroponymy is a more realistic and factual explanation. Furthermore this influence has not been one sided. Should we judge all Montenegrins as de faco Albanians because individuals among them have obvious Albanian names, such as Keco/Kecovic, which comes from Keqa?
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Post by highduke on Feb 4, 2009 9:50:38 GMT -5
Donnie, i understand what you're saying but the Slavic 'ev' suffixes to the chechen last names are gramaticaly independent of the 'ay' preifxed to the 'ev' eg: shalayev would be shalayOV if the the pure surname was shala and not shalay & in that regard Russian is more grammaticaly complex than Serbian, it having retained more OCS
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Post by donnie on Feb 4, 2009 9:53:12 GMT -5
He won't get it donnie, but hopefully the rest read it and try and understand. I think he understands deep down, but whatever pathological disorder he suffers from is disabling him from coming to terms with this ... and so he digs himself deeper and deeper, making use of weak and vague "arguments".
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Post by highduke on Feb 4, 2009 9:54:24 GMT -5
By the way, do not confuse arberesh for shqipetars, either, neither in terms of their etnonym or surnames, they are closer to the Dardanians of Arbona than the Shqipetars of the Caucasus. PS ANSWER REPLY #32
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Post by donnie on Feb 4, 2009 9:56:42 GMT -5
Donnie, i understand what you're saying but the Slavic 'ev' suffixes to the chechen last names are gramaticaly independent of the 'ay' preifxed to the 'ev' eg: shalayev would be shalayOV if the the pure surname was shala and not shalay & in that regard Russian is more grammaticaly complex than Serbian, it having retained more OCS Even if this is true, you've failed to explain the same phenomenon present among the Azeris´, like Mustafayev.
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Post by donnie on Feb 4, 2009 9:57:31 GMT -5
By the way, do not confuse arberesh foq shqipetars, either, neither in terms of their etnonym or surnames, they are closer to the Dardanians of Arbona than the Shqipetars of the Caucasus. PS ANSWEQ REPLY #32 LOL. Where, "professor", are the differences found? Except in terms of religion of course.
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Post by highduke on Feb 4, 2009 10:01:23 GMT -5
The Azeris are not Turks but Turkified Caucasics & that phenomenon's presence there is a leftover of their pre-Turkic identity. The difs between arberesh & shqiptars will be elaborated on later. Lets stick to the topic for now
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Post by donnie on Feb 4, 2009 10:09:42 GMT -5
Of course, that is how it must be Do you make stuff up as you go, because it certainly seems like it, lol. And dismissing the Azeris as "Turkified Caucasics" is a little to simplistic. Their physical presence goes well beyond the confines ot Caucasus -- the Azeris are, for instance, more numerous in Iran than they are in Azerbaijan (12-18 million in the former country, roughly 8,5 million in the latter). But even if they were "Turkified Caucasis" it does not necessarely dismiss my argument. Their genes might be indigenous, but their language is still Turkic and the suffix 'ay' might be as well, since it is also present among Turks from Turkey, e.g. Göktay, Tuncay, Günay etc. LOL, sure, but I don't see why you would want to continue debating an issue in which you've been dissected. I guess it's that inherited masochistic preference that is genetically imbedded in you Serbs that's kicking in, the whole "1389" syndrome.
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Post by highduke on Feb 4, 2009 10:14:04 GMT -5
Its common knowledge that the majority of Azeris are not geneticaly Turkic, show some evidence otherwise
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