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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Nov 23, 2008 18:18:36 GMT -5
If Jaser Arafat was still allive he could have saved Bosnia. One, he's Muslim but two, he's got a Croatian tea towel on his head and three, he's got a brada to keep the chetniks happy as well.
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Post by manijak on Nov 23, 2008 18:39:25 GMT -5
Dodik is sexy......... I am not even a homosexual... but i cum my self when looking at pics of Dodik disgusting
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Post by bob1389 on Nov 23, 2008 22:07:03 GMT -5
Dodik is sexy......... I am not even a homosexual... but i cum my self when looking at pics of Dodik You have ... issues. Srz issues.
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Post by sweetnugs on Nov 23, 2008 22:57:47 GMT -5
My world is fucking dead right now. Bob is actually making sense.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Nov 23, 2008 23:04:24 GMT -5
Bog made a fail.
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Post by zgembo on Nov 24, 2008 1:29:52 GMT -5
Few things... 1. Most of Europe is against us (Bosniaks), so they want to see a united BIH work. They don't want a muslim state in the middle of Europe. That has been proven before. That actually works for us though since we never wanted that. We have always wanted a united BIH. 2. While it is absolutely true they could care less about BIH, I do think they want to be done with the Balkans already. They do want SOME solution. I don't think they care what it is, because there has been solid proof that they are not even following those "European principles" they keep talking about. They have accepted BS agreements where the only thing agreed upon between the different sides was that they will work on certain areas even though they asked them initially to get a deal together. (not make an agreement to make an agreement) Furthermore, I think they just wanted the military under the state, that is the only European principle they care about. I mean could they get away with BIH having two or three military's and still say they are following European principles? Of course not. Aside from that though, they can come to whatever agreement they want, and they won't care. 3. In terms of Dodik and the parties . I think what's important to remember is that we Bosniaks like to view all Bosniak parties as non-nationalist. Uniting, which really all Bosniak parties are trying to do, is thought of as a "positive" thing. It's not positive if there is a good majority of the pop. that wants to seperate. So any party that just keeps talking about centralizing (SBIH) and seperation (SDS) is extreme. The way you find out who is legit in terms of trying to find compromise is to see how they approach all of this. From my view, it was the SBIH supporters that started calling Lajcak vlajcek because he wasn't hurrying up the centralizing process. These people are extreme just as Silajdzic is. On the other side, Dodik's attitude and approach to this has been that we will do what's best for RS but the point is to do what's best for the country. He has of course talked about seperation. The actions Shatter talked about, not wanting to speak to Lajcak, shows signs that he thinks people are after Serbs, or that he wants to find excuses for things not working. Ie Lajcak is after us. So unfortunately, that means there is no Serb party that has approached this the right way. Well, you totally hit the nail on the head. And while a compliment from a Serb does little to bolster your cred, I am sure of one thing: for Bosnia to actually function and grow, a middle road needs to be found and compromising attitudes need to develop. Nationalistic or maximalist positions just keep up the status quo and keep the country separated. I really don't mind this since I want Republika Srpska to be independent. Opinions such as yours, or that of a somewhat toned down SDP, becoming mainstream among Bosniaks are actually bad for RS. Nationalism feeds on nationalism, but compromise also feeds on compromise. And Bosnia's time is running out. The longer the current status quo remains, the more firmly the divisions will be entrenched. Pre-1990 generations are dying out and being replaced by the generations of a dual-entity Bosnia. How much harder will it be to find compromise between people who have grown up in entirely different worlds? The rest of you can say what you will about Dodik, but he is not stupid. He is smart enough to know what his limits and boundaries are. Europeans/Americans may not like his rhetoric, but they know that every Serbian leader would spout the same and that Dodik is better than any other option.
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Post by SKORIC on Nov 24, 2008 1:33:43 GMT -5
they choose the decedents of the same people that were defeated in the second world war I hate to break your pionir heart, but the biggest nationalists and war criminals of this latest war were Partisans or of Partisan heritage. Mladic declared himself a Yugoslav in the seventies and Tudjman was a partisan. Nuff said. And Bog, may I ask you what your purpose is on this Balkan/Bosnia related forum if you dont care about BiH anymore, like you say? Balkanians always prefer locating and complaining about problems to solving them, and you're, bez uvrede, a fine example of it. Stole the words right out of my mouth lol
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Post by manijak on Nov 24, 2008 10:14:59 GMT -5
Opinions such as yours, or that of a somewhat toned down SDP, becoming mainstream among Bosniaks are actually bad for RS. Nationalism feeds on nationalism, but compromise also feeds on compromise. [/quote]
I think the approach is key because if we say that everything except total centralization and or total separation is on the table, we can get somewhere if the approach is real.
For example, in one of the threads you have bob making the case that we need a third entity because there are a dozen teenagers fighting in Mostar. Maybe we do need a third entity, but if that is your best argument, your approach seems to be just wanting to further your own position. Because you can't truthfully tell me you are negotiating with me on legit terms if that is your reasoning.
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Post by tito on Nov 26, 2008 17:56:08 GMT -5
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Post by sweetnugs on Nov 26, 2008 18:36:02 GMT -5
Svakom krkanu dodje kraj.. Dodikovom kurcenju napokon dolazi kraj. ;]
"Prolazna kategorija"... perfektno receno.
Ja vec godinama ponavljam da se ovaj krkan samo kurci i putem toga se nacionalisti u RS hrane i misle da im niko ne moze nista. Dodik je vazda srao kako ne zanima BiH a vidi kako se mora slusati kada SIPA uleti.
Po koji put RS lideri prave jedne te iste greske koje su sjebale njihove izabrane lidere i opet se nece da opamete.
Tito te jebo.. sjebase Milosevica, pa sjebase Karadzica.. i ovaj seljak iz Laktasa misli da mu niko ne moze nista? Pitane je mjeseci kada ce Dodik da se pozdravi sa onim sto jeste.
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