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Post by theblackswans on Jul 22, 2008 22:13:30 GMT -5
They just don't know much. Most of them are young clueless people from Serbia who didn't know anything at the time and think they know more now, but it's not real info just trash. Serbia had Serbian media, all they heard was their point of view what do you expect? Plenty of them still actualy belive we declared Jihad on them, and Croats were turning Croatia into a "Ustasa Facist state". And what's worse they trying to convince everyone else of it too. You can't defend yourself or fight for your interests when you're a Muslim, cuz it automaticly makes it a "jihad". A muslim Albanian could shoot a Serb for sleeping with his gf, and it'll be called "Jihad". All good points and all very true! If the media in 1992 declared it was Muslim Bosnians Slaughtering Christian Serbs the war would have ended in weeks due to international intervention. Because either the media was too lazy or too stupid to explain the truth in the West ,the genocide and killings the cetniks were doing was allowed to fester like an infecected wound for years.
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Post by theblackswans on Jul 22, 2008 22:17:42 GMT -5
Someone forgot to flush the toliet and look what came up! Deucon! ;D No not like Churchill to Brits, Hitler to NEO NAZIS, ok! You need to stop lying to yourself you jerkoffs who defend him are a minority racist ignorant garbage! You need to wake the f*ck up, the world is changing and garbage like you just continue to stink worse! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! You failed to see my point. Karadzic was a popular figurehead during a war so in the eyes of Bosnians he is a savoir who defended us from Izebegovic and Tudjman. Whether he is deserving of such praise is questionable since it was Mladic that was head of the army and rumours have arisen that Karadzic's son sold weapons to Izebegovic. BLAH! BLAH! BLAH! Cetnik VRS soldiers did kill international 1)Journalists 2) Peacekeepers 3) Humanitarian workers and politicians trying to stop the fight so stop lying to yourself and trying to spread your garbage as if it is true. You cetnik apologists are always liars who spread lies thru distortion and ommission. ^ The true words of an extremist/ultranationalist. I'm tired of arguing with you there are mountains of documents that support what the international community and Bosnians say about the war and Karadzic is true. You can keep sticking your head in the sand and continue to be an ignorant racists facist apologist. If thats what you want to be known as, just another piece of white trash ignorant garbage that spouts racial crap and some bs that is unbelievable lies then fine by me! Enjoy your ignorance!
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Post by theblackswans on Jul 22, 2008 22:19:52 GMT -5
They just don't know much. Most of them are young clueless people from Serbia who didn't know anything at the time and think they know more now, but it's not real info just trash. Serbia had Serbian media, all they heard was their point of view what do you expect? Plenty of them still actualy belive we declared Jihad on them, and Croats were turning Croatia into a "Ustasa Facist state". And what's worse they trying to convince everyone else of it too. You can't defend yourself or fight for your interests when you're a Muslim, cuz it automaticly makes it a "jihad". A muslim Albanian could shoot a Serb for sleeping with his gf, and it'll be called "Jihad". ! Wow.!! Id have to agree with u one hundred percent when u talk about serbian media ... and ill tell u why. I have been following Gotovina's case in the Hague now since it started and have been reading the responses to his trial in serbian media. One thing i have noticed is that they only report on what the prosecution is saying or trying to say ... and they offer no objective response to the average serbian reader when its the defense's turn to cross exam. They accept one sided arguments to be absolute fact, and when the final verdict is delivered eg. Oric, they cannot believe how he could have been found not guilty and are in complete shock. Their media is very much to blame for this. edit
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Post by vinjak on Jul 22, 2008 22:22:32 GMT -5
Oric, they cannot believe how he could have been found not guilty and are in complete shock. Their media is very much to blame for this.
Yes i would agree not many actulay know what charges he was tried for and then acquited of.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 22, 2008 22:23:30 GMT -5
Wow.!! Id have to agree with u one hundred percent when u talk about serbian media ... and ill tell u why. I have been following Gotovina's case in the Hague now since it started and have been reading the responses to his trial in serbian media. One thing i have noticed is that they only report on what the prosecution is saying or trying to say ... and they offer no objective response to the average serbian reader when its the defense's turn to cross exam. They accept one sided arguments to be absolute fact, and when the final verdict is delivered eg. Oric, they cannot believe how he could have been found not guilty and are in complete shock. Their media is very much to blame for this. The ICTY "judges" switch off the microphones of Serb defendants when they bring crimes against Serbs to light. Media around the world speak of "over 8,000 Muslims" that died in Srebrenica when they fail to mention the 3,500 Serb civilians that died months and years before Srebrenica was captured. Oric was let off despite there being a video of him bragging about his crimes. Media around the world doesn't speak a word about the 150+ churches/monasteries that were destroyed in Kosovo or the 300,000+ non Albanian refugees caused by KLA terror and NATO complicity. All Serb defendants are assumed to be guilty by foreign media before their trial even takes place. Compared to other media outlets, Serb media outlets are anything but biased. Had Serb media used the same propaganda techniques as other media outlets then Yugoslavia might have not fallen apart. I'm tired of arguing with you there are mountains of documents that support what the international community and Bosnians say about the war and Karadzic is true. You can keep sticking your head in the sand and continue to be an ignorant racists facist apologist. If thats what you want to be known as, just another piece of white trash ignorant garbage that spouts racial crap and some bs that is unbelievable lies then fine by me! Enjoy your ignorance! I'm not ignorant. I am very learned and I have read/heard the opinions of both sides of the wars. The Serb/Yugoslav sides just makes more logical sense then the others... especially since they don't seem to parrot the same propaganda lines as their adversaries or try to minimize genocide.
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Post by CiKoLa on Jul 22, 2008 22:26:00 GMT -5
Croatian media is a little more objective ... they will report on what the prosecution is saying ... then offer a counter argument once the cross examination has been completed.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 23, 2008 1:02:21 GMT -5
lol again at 3,500 serbs when even RS's own findings don't support that
you're like halbrooke when he said 300,000 dead on CNN
The Republika Srpska's Commission for War Crimes gave the number of Serb victims in the municipalities of Bratunac, Srebrenica and Skelani as 995; 520 in Bratunac and 475 in Srebrenica.
The Chronicle of Our Graves by Milivoje Ivanisevic, president of the Belgrade Center for Investigating Crimes Committed against the Serbs, estimates the number of people killed at around 1,200.
For the Honorable Cross and Golden Freedom, a book published by the RS Ministry of Interior, referred to 641 Serb victims in the Bratunac-Srebrenica-Skelani region.
The accuracy of these numbers is challenged: the OTP noted that although Ivanisevic's book estimated that around 1200 Serbs were killed, personal details were only available for 624 victims. The validity of labeling some of the casualties as "victims" is also contested: studies have found a significant majority of military casualties compared to civilian casualties.
For example the village of Kravica was attacked by Bosniak forces on Orthodox Christmas Day, 7 January 1993. Some Serb sources such as Ivanisevic allege that the village's 353 inhabitants were "virtually completely destroyed".[101] In fact, the VRS' own internal records state that 46 Serbs died in the Kravica attack: 35 soldiers and 11 civilians.
lol^ perfect example
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Post by SKORIC on Jul 23, 2008 2:33:04 GMT -5
I saw on the news that Karadzic has only been living in belgrade for the last 2 - 3 years. I think he would have been in Bosnia before that but left after they started intesifying the search for him. I found it funny when i heard he used to go have coffee with friends in downtown Sarajevo on occasions. ROFL!! He probably did do that too haha. lol or a couple of nato troops go shopping and karadzic is right there standing still among the manicons lolll
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jul 23, 2008 5:36:09 GMT -5
They just don't know much. Most of them are young clueless people from Serbia who didn't know anything at the time and think they know more now, but it's not real info just trash. Serbia had Serbian media, all they heard was their point of view what do you expect? Plenty of them still actualy belive we declared Jihad on them, and Croats were turning Croatia into a "Ustasa Facist state". And what's worse they trying to convince everyone else of it too. You can't defend yourself or fight for your interests when you're a Muslim, cuz it automaticly makes it a "jihad". A muslim Albanian could shoot a Serb for sleeping with his gf, and it'll be called "Jihad". All good points and all very true! If the media in 1992 declared it was Muslim Bosnians Slaughtering Christian Serbs the war would have ended in weeks due to international intervention. Because either the media was too lazy or too stupid to explain the truth in the West ,the genocide and killings the cetniks were doing was allowed to fester like an infecected wound for years. It was all before 9/11 remember so even though the term "Muslim terrorist" had already been in circulation it wouldn't have had the same effect.
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Post by theblackswans on Jul 23, 2008 8:33:29 GMT -5
Wow.!! Id have to agree with u one hundred percent when u talk about serbian media ... and ill tell u why. I have been following Gotovina's case in the Hague now since it started and have been reading the responses to his trial in serbian media. One thing i have noticed is that they only report on what the prosecution is saying or trying to say ... and they offer no objective response to the average serbian reader when its the defense's turn to cross exam. They accept one sided arguments to be absolute fact, and when the final verdict is delivered eg. Oric, they cannot believe how he could have been found not guilty and are in complete shock. Their media is very much to blame for this. The ICTY "judges" switch off the microphones of Serb defendants when they bring crimes against Serbs to light. Media around the world speak of "over 8,000 Muslims" that died in Srebrenica when they fail to mention the 3,500 Serb civilians that died months and years before Srebrenica was captured. Oric was let off despite there being a video of him bragging about his crimes. Media around the world doesn't speak a word about the 150+ churches/monasteries that were destroyed in Kosovo or the 300,000+ non Albanian refugees caused by KLA terror and NATO complicity. All Serb defendants are assumed to be guilty by foreign media before their trial even takes place. Compared to other media outlets, Serb media outlets are anything but biased. Had Serb media used the same propaganda techniques as other media outlets then Yugoslavia might have not fallen apart. I'm tired of arguing with you there are mountains of documents that support what the international community and Bosnians say about the war and Karadzic is true. You can keep sticking your head in the sand and continue to be an ignorant racists facist apologist. If thats what you want to be known as, just another piece of white trash ignorant garbage that spouts racial crap and some bs that is unbelievable lies then fine by me! Enjoy your ignorance! I'm not ignorant. I am very learned and I have read/heard the opinions of both sides of the wars. The Serb/Yugoslav sides just makes more logical sense then the others... especially since they don't seem to parrot the same propaganda lines as their adversaries or try to minimize genocide. There is no legit source that would say 3,500 Serbs killed around Srebrenica. I have been to the area and seen the graveyard in Bratunac's etc. Your numbers are flawed and you use them as an excuse for what your beloved facist racists cetnik rs leadership did which was a policy of kill some, rape some and expel the rest, Nice! So what does that say about you? You base your arguments on apologist excuse propaganda that is used to excuse racist facist policies by an extreme minority of rural uneducated (mostly) peasant trash.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 23, 2008 9:51:17 GMT -5
There is no legit source that would say 3,500 Serbs killed around Srebrenica. I have been to the area and seen the graveyard in Bratunac's etc. Your numbers are flawed and you use them as an excuse for what your beloved facist racists cetnik rs leadership did which was a policy of kill some, rape some and expel the rest, Nice! So what does that say about you? There is no evidence of 8,000 Muslim "men and boys" killed by Serb forces after the capture of Srebrenica. You base your arguments on apologist excuse propaganda that is used to excuse racist facist policies by an extreme minority of rural uneducated (mostly) peasant trash. --edit---
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Post by theblackswans on Jul 23, 2008 10:14:14 GMT -5
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DO NOT INSULT
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 23, 2008 10:24:23 GMT -5
Words... empty words.
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Post by vinjak on Jul 23, 2008 20:11:36 GMT -5
lol or a couple of nato troops go shopping and karadzic is right there standing still among the manicons lolll
LMAO
I bet he even probably bumed a smoke or 2 off them too.
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Post by MiG on Jul 23, 2008 23:50:19 GMT -5
^ I wouldn't be surprised if he did.
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Post by sweetnugs on Jul 24, 2008 0:38:36 GMT -5
This is like on going party. Bosnians (ok, Bosniacs & Croats, 10-15% Bosnian Serbs) were pissed as shit over the Srebrenica verdict and I don't think one of them thought Karadzic was ever going to be caught. It was a nice gift for once.
The fact that ultra-Serb nationalists are being overshadowed by liberals and pro-EU Serbs is absolutely amazing considering how thick the nationalistic hold was on that country for so long.
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Post by sweetnugs on Jul 24, 2008 0:41:01 GMT -5
Oh, also, ever since the news broke out about Krejzi Rasho, I've been hearing distant cries and weeps from ultra nationalistic Serbatrons. Mainly from Australia for some odd reason.
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Post by terroreign on Jul 24, 2008 4:56:47 GMT -5
Wow radovan just looks so gay with that beard lmao XD
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Post by Boško Buha on Jul 24, 2008 7:39:52 GMT -5
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jul 24, 2008 11:02:40 GMT -5
Wow radovan just looks so gay with that beard lmao XD Since when has a beard been gay? He looks more like an alternative hippy. His Montenegin features also stand out nicely.
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