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Post by zgembo on Jul 8, 2008 23:16:26 GMT -5
Seems like much ado about nothing:
Coming to stores in Republika Srpska this fall: BiH flag toilet paper ;D
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Post by radovic on Jul 8, 2008 23:48:30 GMT -5
Why hasn't he been shot already? Because unlike you Pickola people in Bosnia stopped being terrorists, assasins and rapists years ago. Now they just get pissed off and complain when somebody does something they don't like and along the way they show themselves to be hypcorites. Dodik removed a Bosnian flag complain the Bosniaks, yet they cheered when Ugljanin in Sandzak claimed he would never have the Serbian flag in his offices. I think last year Dodik or some RS official complained about some minor cantonal official in the Federation having a Turkish flag in his office, but it later turned out the one complaining had a Russian flag. Unlike this Dodik incident it wasn't reported to a great extent.
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Post by zgembo on Jul 9, 2008 2:13:13 GMT -5
I find it hillarious that some Muslims take such offense to this. Its reminiscent of those nutjobs complaining about the Allah cartoon in a Danish newspaper, yet worse. Relax your horses, your shitty Bosnian flag was drawn up by EU bureaucrat 10 years ago. The country lacks any power on a federal level and is being held together by foreigners. There is no high-scale treason here, there is nothing to betray... except for Muslim delusion of de facto statehood.
I mean, seriously now, what do you expect any Bosnian Serb to do? To cuddle with a Bosnian flag before going to bed? The country was forced upon us, we hate it and we always will. You think any one of us has a Bosnian flag in our house? You don't think we spit on that flag whenever we see it? You don't think RS would vote to seperate in an instant if the international community allowed it. Wake up and smell the roses.
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Post by terroreign on Jul 9, 2008 2:16:06 GMT -5
I'm just laughing at the serbian community for only having enough jaje to do THIS, this is petty.
We Montenegrins dont play around..
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Post by SKORIC on Jul 9, 2008 2:22:43 GMT -5
Seems like much ado about nothing: Coming to stores in Republika Srpska this fall: BiH flag toilet paper ;D lol? is that it? I was thinking of some massive flag being thrown off the table with rage...
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Post by kapetan on Jul 9, 2008 2:41:25 GMT -5
I find it hillarious that some Muslims take such offense to this. Its reminiscent of those nutjobs complaining about the Allah cartoon in a Danish newspaper, yet worse. Relax your horses, your s**tty Bosnian flag was drawn up by EU bureaucrat 10 years ago. The country lacks any power on a federal level and is being held together by foreigners. There is no high-scale treason here, there is nothing to betray... except for Muslim delusion of de facto statehood. I mean, seriously now, what do you expect any Bosnian Serb to do? To cuddle with a Bosnian flag before going to bed? The country was forced upon us, we hate it and we always will. You think any one of us has a Bosnian flag in our house? You don't think we spit on that flag whenever we see it? You don't think RS would vote to seperate in an instant if the international community allowed it. Wake up and smell the roses. You think we like this flag? Everyone here knows the real bosnian flag and symbol that even Tvrtko used. We all know what that is. But the point is at this moment that flag represents Bosnia as a country and by throwing it away and keeping his he's spitting on the country and it's another little show of "independance". All he had to do was just respect it enough to leave it alone. Respect? You know what that is? Not causing bulls**t for the sake of bulls**t? And I love how you act like it's not the flag of RS too. RS is part of Bosnia sorry. And I also love how you took Croats completly out of the equation. They don't like this prick anymore then we do. This guy just keeps and keeps provoking...when someone answers you'll have a bunch of serbs whining about it. Just like you do in Kosovo. Instigate and instigate, provoke and provoke, and when someone answers OHHH IT'S THE BIG BAD ISLAMO FACIST ALBANIAN RADICALS! LOL I can tell you I wouldn't have taken the RS flag off the table, big or small, just for the sake of respect and manners. We don't care what YOU do on the street, but this guy is supposed to be a respectable politician not a street thug. But hey..at anytime you guys wonna take all these little games and shows of defiance to the next level...feel free to.
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Post by zgembo on Jul 9, 2008 3:50:27 GMT -5
Again, wake up. If you think Dodik is provoking, what has every premier of RS done since the end of the war? It isn't any different, there is just more media attention now. It is as if more is expected from Dodik just because he was never associated with SDS.
Bosnia does not respect Republika Srpska as an entity, it is constantly demonized as genocidal and calls are made to abolish it. And this is not Bosnian soccer fans or thugs on the street, this is coming from top politicians like Haris Silajdzic. So long as Republika Srpska doesn't get a minimal amount of respect from those types, how can you seriously expect Dodik to give Bosnia as a country minimal amounts of respect.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 9, 2008 4:05:01 GMT -5
Very correct marko!
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jul 9, 2008 7:06:40 GMT -5
I find it hillarious that some Muslims take such offense to this. Its reminiscent of those nutjobs complaining about the Allah cartoon in a Danish newspaper, yet worse. Relax your horses, your s**tty Bosnian flag was drawn up by EU bureaucrat 10 years ago. The country lacks any power on a federal level and is being held together by foreigners. There is no high-scale treason here, there is nothing to betray... except for Muslim delusion of de facto statehood. I mean, seriously now, what do you expect any Bosnian Serb to do? To cuddle with a Bosnian flag before going to bed? The country was forced upon us, we hate it and we always will. You think any one of us has a Bosnian flag in our house? You don't think we spit on that flag whenever we see it? You don't think RS would vote to seperate in an instant if the international community allowed it. Wake up and smell the roses. You think we like this flag? Everyone here knows the real bosnian flag and symbol that even Tvrtko used. We all know what that is. Are you referring to King Tvrkto Kotoromanic, the first Bosnian king... the one with the title of "King of Serbs, Bosnia and the Seaside and the Western Lands?" ... ie not the King of Bosniaks or even Bosnian's? ... ie the ruler who basically identified Serbs as being the main inhabitants of Bosnia? ... ie the one who was related to the Nemanjic's? ...ie the one who sent "Vlatko " to help fight the Battle of Kosovo against the Turks? ...ie the one who claimed to helped defend Europe against Islam & the Turks? But the point is at this moment that flag represents Bosnia as a country and by throwing it away and keeping his he's spitting on the country and it's another little show of "independance". All he had to do was just respect it enough to leave it alone Well I do agree with that. I mean there's no moon & crescent on the flag anyway. It's at least an attempt at unity & not particularly offensive to Serbs. So yes he should have left it alone really. Respect? You know what that is? Not causing bulls**t for the sake of bulls**t? Bit of an overeaction overall really though. And I love how you act like it's not the flag of RS too. RS is part of Bosnia sorry. And I also love how you took Croats completly out of the equation. They don't like this prick anymore then we do. Yeah good one, the flag of RS. They already tried to change the flag of RS (ie the Serbian flag) once. This guy just keeps and keeps provoking...when someone answers you'll have a bunch of serbs whining about it. Just like you do in Kosovo. Instigate and instigate, provoke and provoke, and when someone answers OHHH IT'S THE BIG BAD ISLAMO FACIST ALBANIAN RADICALS! LOL Don't really know what you're talking about here. I can tell you I wouldn't have taken the RS flag off the table, big or small, just for the sake of respect and manners. Yes I agree. We don't care what YOU do on the street, but this guy is supposed to be a respectable politician not a street thug. But hey..at anytime you guys wonna take all these little games and shows of defiance to the next level...feel free to. Meh.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 9, 2008 12:52:15 GMT -5
You think we like this flag? Everyone here knows the real bosnian flag and symbol that even Tvrtko used. We all know what that is. Are you referring to King Tvrkto Kotoromanic, the first Bosnian king... the one with the title of "King of Serbs, Bosnia and the Seaside and the Western Lands?" ... ie not the King of Bosniaks or even Bosnian's? ... ie the ruler who basically identified Serbs as being the main inhabitants of Bosnia? ... ie the one who was related to the Nemanjic's? ...ie the one who sent "Vlatko " to help fight the Battle of Kosovo against the Turks? ...ie the one who claimed to helped defend Europe against Islam & the Turks? Well I do agree with that. I mean there's no moon & crescent on the flag anyway. It's at least an attempt at unity & not particularly offensive to Serbs. So yes he should have left it alone really. Bit of an overeaction overall really though. Yeah good one, the flag of RS. They already tried to change the flag of RS (ie the Serbian flag) once. Don't really know what you're talking about here. Yes I agree. We don't care what YOU do on the street, but this guy is supposed to be a respectable politician not a street thug. But hey..at anytime you guys wonna take all these little games and shows of defiance to the next level...feel free to. Meh. Yes Tvrtko the Bosnian king who also claimed the Serbian crown. Who had a dozen titles and was related to tons of people. Like most kings at the time. Yes the one who defended his native land of Bosnia. Nobody said there wasn't Orthodox and Catholic ihabitants in Bosnia before Islam. That's common sense. Ban Kulin who came before Tvrtko of course, refered to the Bosnian population as Bosnjani, in the charter of Ban Kulin. What he means by that tearm is up to you and what you wona belive. It's not improtant really. But please don't start irrelevant argument about Tvrtko, I was simply talking about the lilly he used as the Bosnian symbol. Claiming he's a Serb only further serves MY point, that the lilly should be Bosnia's flag.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 9, 2008 13:26:34 GMT -5
Ma jebe se Dodiku za jednu malu jebenu zastavu. Danas je skida, sutra ce je gaziti, a prekosutra ce se popisati na nju. Nema respekta za BiH, i to je to. Quite true, no way of getting around that. The sane people are leaving, but they are also leaving something behind, which is the legacy of Croats, and the ultranationalist insane which the R. of BiH will one day have to deal with. If things stay the way they are, and they are treated equally, then there will be nothing wrong. If things are shifted, and they start becoming oppressed, then things will tip the scale, and s**t will go down.
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Post by MiG on Jul 9, 2008 14:32:19 GMT -5
^ And your point is..?
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 9, 2008 15:03:14 GMT -5
You are in no position to dictate who respects Bosnia and who doesn't because its obvious you see yourself as a Croat and not as a Bosnian (or Yugoslavian.)
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Post by MiG on Jul 9, 2008 15:36:14 GMT -5
^ Ma zaboli mene kita sta ti kazes/mislis sinko moj. Ja sam rodjen u Kaknju, i u Bosni sam narasto. Ja imam svako pravo da pricam o Bosni i Bosancima kako ja ocu, i kako zelim. Covijek nema respekta za republiku, svaki covijek to moze vidit, jedino da nije idiot. Ti si iz dijaspore. Sad malo zavezi kad momci pricaju. Jer ti nemas ni 'p' od pojma kako je nama bilo, i kakva je sad situacija. I ajde sad malo pricaj maternji jezik. Bilo bih ti bolje da malo osvjezis neki kredibilitet kao Bosanski Srbin. Ejj, mamlaze jedan. Bezobrazan si kao tezak.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 9, 2008 16:01:07 GMT -5
^ Ma zaboli mene kita sta ti kazes/mislis sinko moj. Ja sam rodjen u Kaknju, i u Bosni sam narasto. Ja imam svako pravo da pricam o Bosni i Bosancima kako ja ocu, i kako zelim. Of course you can but that doesn't mean you have any credibility to judge how much respect someone else has for Bosnia. Covijek nema respekta za republiku, svaki covijek to moze vidit, jedino da nije idiot. I'm not debating what respect he has, I am stating that you have no credibility to judge him since you see yourself as a Croat first and as a Bosnian second (if at all). By the by the by, Dodik was the one who agreed to the police reforms and other centralization reforms which is why I stated what I did. So are you, Yankee. Sad malo zavezi kad momci pricaju. Jer ti nemas ni 'p' od pojma kako je nama bilo, i kakva je sad situacija. I ajde sad malo pricaj maternji jezik. Bilo bih ti bolje da malo osvjezis neki kredibilitet kao Bosanski Srbin. Ejj, mamlaze jedan. Bezobrazan si kao tezak. Hold your tongue you uncultured lout.
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Post by sweetnugs on Jul 9, 2008 16:18:11 GMT -5
Znao sam da je MiG Bosanceros ;D
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Post by sweetnugs on Jul 9, 2008 16:22:35 GMT -5
^ Ma zaboli mene kita sta ti kazes/mislis sinko moj. Ja sam rodjen u Kaknju, i u Bosni sam narasto. Ja imam svako pravo da pricam o Bosni i Bosancima kako ja ocu, i kako zelim. Of course you can but that doesn't mean you have any credibility to judge how much respect someone else has for Bosnia. I'm not debating what respect he has, I am stating that you have no credibility to judge him since you see yourself as a Croat first and as a Bosnian second (if at all). By the by the by, Dodik was the one who agreed to the police reforms and other centralization reforms which is why I stated what I did. So are you, Yankee. Sad malo zavezi kad momci pricaju. Jer ti nemas ni 'p' od pojma kako je nama bilo, i kakva je sad situacija. I ajde sad malo pricaj maternji jezik. Bilo bih ti bolje da malo osvjezis neki kredibilitet kao Bosanski Srbin. Ejj, mamlaze jedan. Bezobrazan si kao tezak. Hold your tongue you uncultured lout. I don't see MiG as anti Bosnian in any way. So what if he's of the Croat stock? He's still Bosnian in a sense.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 9, 2008 17:26:55 GMT -5
He is pro Bosnian/pro Yugoslavian as long as those things are an extension of his pro Croat/pro Croatian beliefs.
I never accused him of being "anti" anything.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 9, 2008 17:57:48 GMT -5
Seeing himself as a Croat first and Bosnian second is fine. Black Americans are Black first, Italian Americans are Italian first etc. Or at least they equaly hold each.
Race or ethnicity and culture is more personal then a nationality/citizenship but both are important.
Who in their right mind would force someone today to ditch their religion or race or ethnic group or culture so they can be a "real" ________ (insert whatever country).
Loyalty to your home land and country is all anyone should give really.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 9, 2008 18:11:59 GMT -5
Seeing himself as a Croat first and Bosnian second is fine. Black Americans are Black first, Italian Americans are Italian first etc. Or at least they equaly hold each. Race or ethnicity and culture is more personal then a nationality/citizenship but both are important. Who in their right mind would force someone today to ditch their religion or race or ethnic group or culture so they can be a "real" ________ (insert whatever country). Loyalty to your home land and country is all anyone should give really. When the next war breaks out I wonder if you will have the same belief about someone holding their ethnicity over their nationality as you do now.
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