libofsha
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Post by libofsha on Jul 18, 2008 14:55:26 GMT -5
in your last desperate attempt to speak, your 1st contradicts your 2nd, but i am asking too much from an albinist. as for 3rd, i bet he was KLA member, or smth. Real NORMAL traditional INFORMED americans LIKE serbs. unfortunately the jewish owned media keep their anti-serb propaganda.. what a bafoon, do humanity a favour and do not propagate
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Demonel
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I am Jack's regained insanity.
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Post by Demonel on Jul 18, 2008 15:08:11 GMT -5
Eparhija bihacko-petrovacka is in the North-East part of Bosnia. Of all the SPC eparchies it has the smallest number of believers. It’s seat is in Bosanski Petrovac. It’s led by episcope Hrizostom. The oldest church in this eparchy was built in the late 19th century. The only church in Bihac Hram Silaska Svetog Duha na apostole was built in 1898. In 1923 it became a cathedral. In 1941 it was destroyed by NDH forces. After WWII Bihac town hall was built on that location. In 1987 the Bihac authorities gave a location for a new church. Since it is still not finished the prayers are conducted in the Kapela Svete trojice chapel which was adapted for that use in the 1960s. During the 1992-1995 war the dome and flooring of the chapel were damaged.
Don’t insult me you illiterate fuck.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 19, 2008 7:57:59 GMT -5
Now see what I mean? It's easier for Serbs to belive that FIVE republics, SIX peoples, and all the people who supported them, are ALL TRAITORS, liars and criminals. Oh I'm sorry you said except macedonia and Montenegro. Oh ok so it's just 3 insane republics and 4 insane peoples. That's very logical of you. All 6 that split were just naturaly scum and Serbs are the one that were right. Seriosly man, get a f**kin' grip. We weren't all just cought by a mysterious disease overnight. It's sad that you can even belive that so many others are 'crazy" while you all by yourself are 100% right. Where's the logic in your thought process? You're absolutely right! How can Slovenes, Croats, Muslims, Albanians and Macedonians be traitors when they never gave a shit about Yugoslavia? They cant, its that simple. Though I can understand why none of those groups had no respect for Yugoslavia, save for the Macedonians none of them shed blood for the creation of the state. The more I think about it the more I realise Yugoslavia was nothing more then a stupid dream created by empty headed Serbians who wanted (because of some pseudo notion of Slavic unity) to share the spoils of war with those who slaughtered Serbs.
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Post by terroreign on Jul 19, 2008 13:35:24 GMT -5
^Serbs didnt like yugoslavia either, they wanted a greater serbia, not some place where everyone was treated equal..
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Post by kapetan on Jul 19, 2008 15:48:56 GMT -5
Now see what I mean? It's easier for Serbs to belive that FIVE republics, SIX peoples, and all the people who supported them, are ALL TRAITORS, liars and criminals. Oh I'm sorry you said except macedonia and Montenegro. Oh ok so it's just 3 insane republics and 4 insane peoples. That's very logical of you. All 6 that split were just naturaly scum and Serbs are the one that were right. Seriosly man, get a f**kin' grip. We weren't all just cought by a mysterious disease overnight. It's sad that you can even belive that so many others are 'crazy" while you all by yourself are 100% right. Where's the logic in your thought process? You're absolutely right! How can Slovenes, Croats, Muslims, Albanians and Macedonians be traitors when they never gave a s**t about Yugoslavia? They cant, its that simple. Though I can understand why none of those groups had no respect for Yugoslavia, save for the Macedonians none of them shed blood for the creation of the state. The more I think about it the more I realise Yugoslavia was nothing more then a stupid dream created by empty headed Serbians who wanted (because of some pseudo notion of Slavic unity) to share the spoils of war with those who slaughtered Serbs. You mean Srboslavia. LMAO @ sharing. There was nothing of the sort. Study the structure of Yugoslavia in it's earlier days and in the 70's and 80's. Study the policies see how Croatia was snubed again and again and Bosnia especialy treated as a child. While Serb politicans were making remarks like "uniting serb lands" and "chopping up croatia and bosnia". Read more. Nobody breaks up a country in which they live in good and nice. over 90% of the croatian population voted for independance. Are they all fanatical ustasa?
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Post by vinjak on Jul 19, 2008 18:08:47 GMT -5
OMG such simpleton reasoning to a much more complicated situation that had huge help from the outside. And if anyone had a right to complaign it was the Slovenia. Kapetan you keep mentioning "Study" maybe you should before making simple comments.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 19, 2008 19:58:02 GMT -5
^Serbs didnt like yugoslavia either, they wanted a greater serbia, not some place where everyone was treated equal.. The only time that Yugoslavia reduced rights of non Serbs in Yugoslavia was when the Yugoslav monarchy had to clamp down on separatist groups who were committing wide spread terrorist attacks all over Yugoslavia thanks to generous funding from the Italian fascists. You mean Srboslavia. LMAO @ sharing. There was nothing of the sort. Study the structure of Yugoslavia in it's earlier days and in the 70's and 80's. Study the policies see how Croatia was snubed again and again and Bosnia especialy treated as a child. While Serb politicans were making remarks like "uniting serb lands" and "chopping up croatia and bosnia". So that's why the komjunari reduced the number of Jasenovac victims from 600,000 to 300,000 and Muslims were given national legitimacy! Read more. Nobody breaks up a country in which they live in good and nice. over 90% of the croatian population voted for independance. Are they all fanatical ustasa? No, they're a bunch of traitorous fucks.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 19, 2008 20:17:52 GMT -5
Whatever my friend, if you really want to belive that and it helps you to think of all of us as simply "traitors" then you go ahed and do that. Fact remains, you don't know the details, and you obviosly haven't studied the little things.
You were raised on propaganda.
As one Serbian man said speaking of the news in and coming from Belgrade "it's as if all the news networks in America were taken over by the KKK. Try to imagine that, and you'd have a war soon too". In other words if they showed nothing but white people getting killed and molested by minorities.
Here's an idea. Take some of these 'wacky" claims the rest of us have, and simply without pre-judging look them up in unbiased sources. Research them a little. You got nothing to lose.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 19, 2008 20:32:02 GMT -5
Whatever my friend, if you really want to belive that and it helps you to think of all of us as simply "traitors" then you go ahed and do that. Fact remains, you don't know the details, and you obviosly haven't studied the little things. Like Croats, Muslims and Albanians not caring about Yugoslavia? Well I understand that it is hard for them to be loyal when they weren't raised to be loyal... it would be nice if they stopped lying that they are Yugonostalgic and whatnot. You were raised on propaganda. I was raised to be a good Yugoslav (which I agree is brainless propaganda) then my Muslim neighbours turned on me like a pack of rabid dogs and I realised that few outside the Serb community actually gave a shit about Yugoslavia.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 19, 2008 20:57:10 GMT -5
Muslims not caring about Yugoslavia? My dad has always said the best times were in Yugoslavia during the 70's. First off Muslims weren't even th first ones to split so shut up. We had no choice after when it was clear only we and Serbia would be left in a totaly uneven union. And you know that. You know had that happend Serbia and Serbs would dominate everything, and any resistence of ours later would've been squashed. I feel pity for Bosnian Serbs who belived everything coming from Belgrade and from evil f**ks like Milosevic and Karadzic even. Those who dreamed of*great Serbia and "uniting" Serb lands. So you tell me what were Bosnians supposed to do when armed Serb millities were forming and Muslims were being evicted and killed? When Arkan and his pals showed up in Bosnia? When it was clear and clearly stated by people like Seselj that Muslims would be 'sent back to Anatolia".
What? lay down for you? You wouldn't do that, and neither would we. The breakup of Yigoslavia, more then anything is the fault of Serbian nationalism and Serbia itself. Not Bosnia. And by Bosnia I mean all of its people. cuz they all ended up victims.
I was PERSONALY kicked out of my home by armed Serbs in a town where the majority were Serbs and there was never any Muslim millitias and any hope for us to fight back.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 19, 2008 21:45:16 GMT -5
Muslims not caring about Yugoslavia? My dad has always said the best times were in Yugoslavia during the 70's. First off Muslims weren't even th first ones to split so shut up. We had no choice after when it was clear only we and Serbia would be left in a totaly uneven union. And you know that. You know had that happend Serbia and Serbs would dominate everything, and any resistence of ours later would've been squashed. I feel pity for Bosnian Serbs who belived everything coming from Belgrade and from evil f**ks like Milosevic and Karadzic even. Those who dreamed of*great Serbia and "uniting" Serb lands. So you tell me what were Bosnians supposed to do when armed Serb millities were forming and Muslims were being evicted and killed? When Arkan and his pals showed up in Bosnia? When it was clear and clearly stated by people like Seselj that Muslims would be 'sent back to Anatolia". What? lay down for you? You wouldn't do that, and neither would we. The breakup of Yigoslavia, more then anything is the fault of Serbian nationalism and Serbia itself. Not Bosnia. And by Bosnia I mean all of its people. cuz they all ended up victims. I was PERSONALY kicked out of my home by armed Serbs in a town where the majority were Serbs and there was never any Muslim millitias and any hope for us to fight back. Did either you or your father fight in the JNA or the armies which evolved from them? NO? THEN STFU.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 20, 2008 0:40:11 GMT -5
Muslims not caring about Yugoslavia? My dad has always said the best times were in Yugoslavia during the 70's. First off Muslims weren't even th first ones to split so shut up. We had no choice after when it was clear only we and Serbia would be left in a totaly uneven union. And you know that. You know had that happend Serbia and Serbs would dominate everything, and any resistence of ours later would've been squashed. I feel pity for Bosnian Serbs who belived everything coming from Belgrade and from evil f**ks like Milosevic and Karadzic even. Those who dreamed of*great Serbia and "uniting" Serb lands. So you tell me what were Bosnians supposed to do when armed Serb millities were forming and Muslims were being evicted and killed? When Arkan and his pals showed up in Bosnia? When it was clear and clearly stated by people like Seselj that Muslims would be 'sent back to Anatolia". What? lay down for you? You wouldn't do that, and neither would we. The breakup of Yigoslavia, more then anything is the fault of Serbian nationalism and Serbia itself. Not Bosnia. And by Bosnia I mean all of its people. cuz they all ended up victims. I was PERSONALY kicked out of my home by armed Serbs in a town where the majority were Serbs and there was never any Muslim millitias and any hope for us to fight back. Did either you or your father fight in the JNA or the armies which evolved from them? NO? THEN STFU. umm why would my father fight in the JNA (thats full of serbs)....the same serbs slaughtering bosniaks and croats.......... the f**k? croats fought for croats bosniaks fought for bosniaks, not the f**kin JNA srboslavia and no. you stfu f*ggot. and eat a dick while youre at it. you fags will only continue to shrink anyway, soon you wont be a threat to anyone with your mass psychosis.
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Post by terroreign on Jul 20, 2008 0:45:22 GMT -5
The biggest "traitorous f**ks" were the serbian politians in ex-yu and their followers
Because of them, Yugoslavia had to be destroyed.
Serbian nationalism within yugoslavia caused everyone else to get out.
That's the god's honest truth, and don't cry about it.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 20, 2008 0:47:14 GMT -5
umm why would my father fight in the JNA (thats full of serbs)....the same serbs slaughtering bosniaks and croats.......... the f**k? HA! You don't think any less of the Partizans despite the Bleiburg massacre. Anyway, I suppose you support what Muslims did to Serbs in Srebrenica since you support Izebegovic's army. croats fought for croats bosniaks fought for bosniaks, not the f**kin JNA srboslavia and no. you stfu f*ggot. and eat a dick while youre at it. you f*gs will only continue to shrink anyway, soon you wont be a threat to anyone with your mass psychosis. Fikret Abdic fought for Yugoslavia. If you and your family had any honour then you and your family would have followed his lead and not the f**king w**re Izebegovic. The biggest "traitorous f**ks" were the serbian politians in ex-yu and their followers Because of them, Yugoslavia had to be destroyed. Serbian nationalism within yugoslavia caused everyone else to get out. That's the god's honest truth, and don't cry about it. Serbian nationalism? WHAT FUCKING NATIONALISM? Croats and Muslims were calling for war and the best Serbians did was send a few thousand militiamen. So much for “nationalism” and “Greater Serbia.” Anyone who believes that Serbs started anything is a real idiot.
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Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 20, 2008 1:41:00 GMT -5
Many naive children in here, speak, totally ignoring the international factor. They try to interpret political economical and military phaenomena by what they conceive by their own eyes/senses, thus completely loosing the true causes and forces behind any war, especially a civil war.
The true reasons is that the existence of this country was not in accordance to the international interests any more.
I think yugoslav nations should break up without a war, and pretend to be divided when in fact they would be one thing still. Going in contrast to the big sharks was not wise, and that is the only fault i can attribute to yugoslav politicians.
Now what kapetan or demonel say is just the smal tiny toys speaking their guts out.
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Post by terroreign on Jul 20, 2008 2:02:11 GMT -5
You're just a blind mouse, Slobodan Milosevic, Serbian radical groups, after the fall of Tito they knew that the serbs were the largest population wise in Yugoslavia and saw their chance to become dominant and Control yugoslavia with an iron-fist and make SRPSKI the official language of Yugoslavia. And to kill all peoples who disagreed or got in their way, be them Slovenian, Macedonian, Montenegrin, Croat, or Albanian.
I'm not saying that that all the serbs are to blame, I'm not saying that even the majority of serbs are to blame. I'm saying that those few serb politicians and their 100's of radical supporters are to blame. They just started the chain reaction, everything else collateral damage.
Btw watch how your leader Seselj says in 1992 that Serbia is not like any of those "banana republics" and that America would never invade them. Quite ironic, as is serbian nationalism in general.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 20, 2008 2:57:14 GMT -5
umm why would my father fight in the JNA (thats full of serbs)....the same serbs slaughtering bosniaks and croats.......... the f**k? HA! You don't think any less of the Partizans despite the Bleiburg massacre. Anyway, I suppose you support what Muslims did to Serbs in Srebrenica since you support Izebegovic's army. Fikret Abdic fought for Yugoslavia. If you and your family had any honour then you and your family would have followed his lead and not the f**king w**re Izebegovic. The biggest "traitorous f**ks" were the serbian politians in ex-yu and their followers Because of them, Yugoslavia had to be destroyed. Serbian nationalism within yugoslavia caused everyone else to get out. That's the god's honest truth, and don't cry about it. Serbian nationalism? WHAT f**kING NATIONALISM? Croats and Muslims were calling for war and the best Serbians did was send a few thousand militiamen. So much for “nationalism” and “Greater Serbia.” Anyone who believes that Serbs started anything is a real idiot. ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLL @ Fikret Abdic!!!!!!!! Oh my god, the single most greedy and out for himself evil f**k of the whole thing. I can't belive what I just read. As for Serbian nationalism, I can tell your mentality is a product of the serbo-internet offensive in the last decade, and that it wasn't formed based on what actualy happend in the 90's. Serbian leaders like Karadzic, Milosevic and Seselj made outrageous comments all the time. "Sarajevans will not be counting the dead. They will be counting the living" -Radovan Karadžiæ in an interview regarding the siege of Sarajevo, 1993 Seselj commented on his plan in an interview with Der Spiegel in August 1991, to transfer Bosnia, Macedonia, Montenegro, and most of Croatia into his Greater Serbia, leaving the Croats with "what you can seefrom the top of Zagreb cathedrel". About Bosnia he replied "The Muslims of Bosnia are just Islamisized Serbs, and part of the population of so called the Croats consists in fact of Catholic Serbs". The interviewer asked: What if the Muslims resist the supression of their status as a nation? Seselj answered "In that case, we will kick them out of Bosnia". "Where to?". "To Anatolia". "Today, from the perspective of the Serbian nation, it is only acceptable to be independent, that we may not be dominated, that the numerical superiority of another nation doesn't influence us, that our fate will not be determined by the percentage of Muslims in Bosnia. That is our right!" - Radovan Karadžiæ in an interview, 1991 "We are again engaged in battles and quarrells. They are not armed battles, but this cannot be excluded yet" - 28 June, 1989, Milosevic speech March 1989 Serbian Assembly passes constitutional amendments which abolished the politcal autonomy of Kosovo and Vojvodina. This of course provoked demonstrations, while Milosevic now held 4 out of 8. Anyone who is politicly educated knows what Milosevic was doing and how he was gathering power into his own hands to control Yugoslavia, and when that wasn't gonna work, to turn it into greater serbia. In 1990, in Knin, SDS holds a referendum on autonomy for the Serbs, which Croatian government declared illigeal, and Croatian police end up being shot after trying to take Serb millitamen's weapons. In January of 1991, Serbs in Croatia were already declaring the "Serb Autonomous Region of Krajina" with their own parlament. Two months later armed millitia take over Plitvice National Park, once again a shoot out with Croatian police happens. Mean while the news in belgrade is openly calling Croatian leaders "Ustasa". The carving of Croatian territory basicly started a year before they even declared Independance. The justification for this was that the Serbs were threatened by the "Ustasa regime". While in Bosnia it was the "Jihad funementalists", while Bosnians were known world over to be the most secular Muslims around. Like Juka said "As for being a Muslim I know how to say Allah....that's about it". They were under Communism since World War 2, people forget this. One survey in 1985 put the amount of belivers in Bosnia at 17%. In September 1991 Serbs set up 4 "Serb Autonomous Regions" in Bosnia. This is all before the war or any declaration of independance of Bosnia. Milosevic's Serbian Socialist Party at Pec on October 9, 1991. Vice President of the party Mihailo Markovic makes the following speech: "In the new Yugoslav state there will be at least 3 federal units: Serbia, Montenegro, and a united Bosnian and Knin region. If the Bosnian Muslims wich to remain in the new Yugoslav state, they will be allowed to do so. If they try to secede, they must know that....the Bosnian Muslims' state will be encircled by Serbian territory." (Heh, that really doesn't sound like a Greater Serbia right?) In 1992, columns of the federal army "withdrew" into Bosnia, with the UN approval, and Alija Izetbegovic even allowed them to confiscate the weapon supplies of the local territorial defense units. (Yea it really sounds like he's getting ready to kill some serbs right?) March 1 referendum is held in Bosnia. Karadzic's SDS forbade Serbs to vote in it and put up road-blocks in the areas they controlled. Around 64% of the electorate did vote anyway, including Serbs in major cities. The ballot read "Are you in favour of a soveirgn and independant BiH, a state of equal citizens and nations of Muslims, Serbs, Croats, and others who live in it?" Almost unanimously they voted "YES". March 2, 1992, results are in, Serb paramill set up sniper positions near the parliament building in Sarajevo. Thousands of Sarajevo citizens come out into the street to demonstrate. Meanwhile a Serb gets shot at a wedding by two muslims. The killing which all evidence pointed to was from a heated argument and tempers and not some millitary attack (who the f**k kills ONE in a millitary attack), was taken as an excuse to denounce Muslim "terrorism". Nobody cared about the Muslims killed by Serb paramills in previous months, like the shooting of Mehmed Ganibegovic in Sipovo on October 7, or the machine-gunning of the Mehmed-aga mosque in Tuzla by federal army reservists on october 13. Once again 50,000 to 100,000 Bosnians of all kinds came out to protest, and in the words of a news repot, one speaker said "Let all the Serb chauvinists go to Serbia and let the Croat chauvenists go to Croatia. We want to remain here together. We want to keep Bosnia as one." This of course was famously interrupted by f**kin atuomatic fire. Serbia and it's leaders did a great f**kin' job of convincing the Serbs in Bosnia they were under grave threat of Ustasa and Jihadists. Just great job. While the majority of ALL people didn't want any slaughters happening, the minority of idiots with guns listening to other idiots from another place (Serbia). Showing them dead Serbs in Croatia was enough to conince them. I can't even type anymore and I'm sure all of you will call this lies without ever bothering to check if any of it is true. The whole argumernt that the least armed, smallest in numbers and most vulneruble group who in the end suffered the most casualties was the one behind all the violence and wanted to destroy Yugoslavia in a violent coup is RETARDED. And that is proven by the complete domination in the frst phases of the war when we had no weapons. Most reports put the amount of Tanks in the Bosnian army at one or two. By your logic I'm going to go pick a fight with Mike Tyson. Serbia not Serbs, but Serbia did destroyed Yugoslavia and the rest helped. But Serbia and it's leader is the main reason. Everyone elses brutality was an answer to theirs, everyone elses nationalism was an answer to theirs. Bosnian Serbs are only guilty of beliving them. The only thing that shocks me is how you dumb f**k kids grow up with your dumb f**k role models listening to everything they or anyone else pumps into your head and you belive 100% of all and never question anything. Beliving Serbian sources 100% never even open to the possibiity they could be lying like anyone else or twisting the truth. Nope, no doubt on your part, it was all the big bad muslims and big bad slovenes and big bad croats and big bad albanians cuz a few of them came in your villige and f**ked someone up. That must mean millions of them were planning a violent coup to destroy your whole nation. the reasonw e cant find common ground and solve our problems is cuz f*ggots like you still won't even acknowledge other peoples right to exist as unique culture. Are you so insecure? Maybe when you stop telling me I dont exist and it's all my fault some f*ggot killed your uncle or grandpa, we can get some s**t done together for the beterment of all of us.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 20, 2008 3:37:47 GMT -5
You're just a blind mouse, Slobodan Milosevic, Serbian radical groups, after the fall of Tito they knew that the serbs were the largest population wise in Yugoslavia and saw their chance to become dominant and Control yugoslavia with an iron-fist and make SRPSKI the official language of Yugoslavia. And to kill all peoples who disagreed or got in their way, be them Slovenian, Macedonian, Montenegrin, Croat, or Albanian. I'm not saying that that all the serbs are to blame, I'm not saying that even the majority of serbs are to blame. I'm saying that those few serb politicians and their 100's of radical supporters are to blame. They just started the chain reaction, everything else collateral damage. Btw watch how your leader Seselj says in 1992 that Serbia is not like any of those "banana republics" and that America would never invade them. Quite ironic, as is serbian nationalism in general. Nothing but fear mongering Serbophobia. I have no idea how you can watch that shit with a straight face. Seriously. ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLL @ Fikret Abdic!!!!!!!! Oh my god, the single most greedy and out for himself evil f**k of the whole thing. I can't belive what I just read. As for Serbian nationalism, I can tell your mentality is a product of the serbo-internet offensive in the last decade, and that it wasn't formed based on what actualy happend in the 90's. Serbian leaders like Karadzic, Milosevic and Seselj made outrageous comments all the time. "Sarajevans will not be counting the dead. They will be counting the living" -Radovan Karadžiæ in an interview regarding the siege of Sarajevo, 1993 Seselj commented on his plan in an interview with Der Spiegel in August 1991, to transfer Bosnia, Macedonia, Montenegro, and most of Croatia into his Greater Serbia, leaving the Croats with "what you can seefrom the top of Zagreb cathedrel". About Bosnia he replied "The Muslims of Bosnia are just Islamisized Serbs, and part of the population of so called the Croats consists in fact of Catholic Serbs". The interviewer asked: What if the Muslims resist the supression of their status as a nation? Seselj answered "In that case, we will kick them out of Bosnia". "Where to?". "To Anatolia". "Today, from the perspective of the Serbian nation, it is only acceptable to be independent, that we may not be dominated, that the numerical superiority of another nation doesn't influence us, that our fate will not be determined by the percentage of Muslims in Bosnia. That is our right!" - Radovan Karadžiæ in an interview, 1991 "We are again engaged in battles and quarrells. They are not armed battles, but this cannot be excluded yet" - 28 June, 1989, Milosevic speech March 1989 Serbian Assembly passes constitutional amendments which abolished the politcal autonomy of Kosovo and Vojvodina. This of course provoked demonstrations, while Milosevic now held 4 out of 8. Anyone who is politicly educated knows what Milosevic was doing and how he was gathering power into his own hands to control Yugoslavia, and when that wasn't gonna work, to turn it into greater serbia. In 1990, in Knin, SDS holds a referendum on autonomy for the Serbs, which Croatian government declared illigeal, and Croatian police end up being shot after trying to take Serb millitamen's weapons. In January of 1991, Serbs in Croatia were already declaring the "Serb Autonomous Region of Krajina" with their own parlament. Two months later armed millitia take over Plitvice National Park, once again a shoot out with Croatian police happens. Mean while the news in belgrade is openly calling Croatian leaders "Ustasa". The carving of Croatian territory basicly started a year before they even declared Independance. The justification for this was that the Serbs were threatened by the "Ustasa regime". While in Bosnia it was the "Jihad funementalists", while Bosnians were known world over to be the most secular Muslims around. Like Juka said "As for being a Muslim I know how to say Allah....that's about it". They were under Communism since World War 2, people forget this. One survey in 1985 put the amount of belivers in Bosnia at 17%. In September 1991 Serbs set up 4 "Serb Autonomous Regions" in Bosnia. This is all before the war or any declaration of independance of Bosnia. Milosevic's Serbian Socialist Party at Pec on October 9, 1991. Vice President of the party Mihailo Markovic makes the following speech: "In the new Yugoslav state there will be at least 3 federal units: Serbia, Montenegro, and a united Bosnian and Knin region. If the Bosnian Muslims wich to remain in the new Yugoslav state, they will be allowed to do so. If they try to secede, they must know that....the Bosnian Muslims' state will be encircled by Serbian territory." (Heh, that really doesn't sound like a Greater Serbia right?) In 1992, columns of the federal army "withdrew" into Bosnia, with the UN approval, and Alija Izetbegovic even allowed them to confiscate the weapon supplies of the local territorial defense units. (Yea it really sounds like he's getting ready to kill some serbs right?) March 1 referendum is held in Bosnia. Karadzic's SDS forbade Serbs to vote in it and put up road-blocks in the areas they controlled. Around 64% of the electorate did vote anyway, including Serbs in major cities. The ballot read "Are you in favour of a soveirgn and independant BiH, a state of equal citizens and nations of Muslims, Serbs, Croats, and others who live in it?" Almost unanimously they voted "YES". March 2, 1992, results are in, Serb paramill set up sniper positions near the parliament building in Sarajevo. Thousands of Sarajevo citizens come out into the street to demonstrate. Meanwhile a Serb gets shot at a wedding by two muslims. The killing which all evidence pointed to was from a heated argument and tempers and not some millitary attack (who the f**k kills ONE in a millitary attack), was taken as an excuse to denounce Muslim "terrorism". Nobody cared about the Muslims killed by Serb paramills in previous months, like the shooting of Mehmed Ganibegovic in Sipovo on October 7, or the machine-gunning of the Mehmed-aga mosque in Tuzla by federal army reservists on october 13. Once again 50,000 to 100,000 Bosnians of all kinds came out to protest, and in the words of a news repot, one speaker said "Let all the Serb chauvinists go to Serbia and let the Croat chauvenists go to Croatia. We want to remain here together. We want to keep Bosnia as one." This of course was famously interrupted by f**kin atuomatic fire. Serbia and it's leaders did a great f**kin' job of convincing the Serbs in Bosnia they were under grave threat of Ustasa and Jihadists. Just great job. While the majority of ALL people didn't want any slaughters happening, the minority of idiots with guns listening to other idiots from another place (Serbia). Showing them dead Serbs in Croatia was enough to conince them. I can't even type anymore and I'm sure all of you will call this lies without ever bothering to check if any of it is true. The whole argumernt that the least armed, smallest in numbers and most vulneruble group who in the end suffered the most casualties was the one behind all the violence and wanted to destroy Yugoslavia in a violent coup is RETARDED. And that is proven by the complete domination in the frst phases of the war when we had no weapons. Most reports put the amount of Tanks in the Bosnian army at one or two. By your logic I'm going to go pick a fight with Mike Tyson. Serbia not Serbs, but Serbia did destroyed Yugoslavia and the rest helped. But Serbia and it's leader is the main reason. Everyone elses brutality was an answer to theirs, everyone elses nationalism was an answer to theirs. Bosnian Serbs are only guilty of beliving them. The only thing that shocks me is how you dumb f**k kids grow up with your dumb f**k role models listening to everything they or anyone else pumps into your head and you belive 100% of all and never question anything. Beliving Serbian sources 100% never even open to the possibiity they could be lying like anyone else or twisting the truth. Nope, no doubt on your part, it was all the big bad muslims and big bad slovenes and big bad croats and big bad albanians cuz a few of them came in your villige and f**ked someone up. That must mean millions of them were planning a violent coup to destroy your whole nation. the reasonw e cant find common ground and solve our problems is cuz f*ggots like you still won't even acknowledge other peoples right to exist as unique culture. Are you so insecure? Maybe when you stop telling me I dont exist and it's all my fault some f*ggot killed your uncle or grandpa, we can get some s**t done together for the beterment of all of us. Muslims shoot up a Serb wedding. Muslims ambushing retreating JNA (on their way to Serbia) units. Izebegovic's Islamic Declaration. Muslims declaring independence unilaterally without negations with Belgrade and rejecting several peace proposals for years onward. You guys really need to get your head out of your asses.
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Anthologic
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Post by Anthologic on Jul 20, 2008 5:03:28 GMT -5
What would Fikret do? He'd lock this thread with his bony fingers.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jul 20, 2008 5:21:38 GMT -5
^ Yes the PR firm Rudder and Finn, great job by that firm "Izebegovic's Islamic Declaration" Yes, talk about greater serbia, but Izetbegovich in his Declaration: "... the Islamic movement should and must start taking over the power as soon as it is morally and numerically strong enough to not only overthrow the existing non-Islamic, but also to build up a new Islamic authority. ..." Is this what they are waiting for in Bosnia, to overtake Croat and Serb regions?
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