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Post by atlantis on Jul 20, 2008 10:55:43 GMT -5
Prove his Greek origin if you can!? We are not claiming him, it's just that some of his letters are showing a Greek conscious in Georgios Kastriotis. The name of his state was Epirus not Albania and it stretched from Kroia to Messoghli. His full name is another give away. This state was the descendent of the Greek Despotate of Epirus ruled by members of the Byzantine Royal family. . Some information about his father..... .................................................................. The Kastriota family became the dominant force in the coastal areas of Albania in the late 14th century. Gjon Kastriota was Lord of Matija and Dibra. In 1407, he was recorded as “dominus satis potens in partibus Albaniæ” and in 1410 as “dominus partium Bosniæ”, as a vassal of Venice. Gjon Kastriota changed religion depending on his current masters. From 1407, as an ally of Venice, he was Catholic. After concluding an alliance with Serbia in 1419, he converted to Orthodoxy. In 1430, he converted to Islam as the ally and vassal of the Turks. After the Ottomans confiscated part of his property in 1438, he reconverted to Catholicism and became a citizen of Venice. ................................................................................................ You understand now why you can't clame him.....
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Jul 20, 2008 12:28:34 GMT -5
The only thing that albanians should be careful and ware from slavs and mocedonians is because they are so degenerated people. Albanians are predominant and superior people which know how to defend themselves, deal and not be infected from those degenerated (kurva) people.
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Post by atlantis on Jul 20, 2008 13:41:23 GMT -5
Prove his Greek origin if you can!? We are not claiming him, it's just that some of his letters are showing a Greek conscious in Georgios Kastriotis. The name of his state was Epirus not Albania and it stretched from Kroia to Messoghli. His full name is another give away. This state was the descendent of the Greek Despotate of Epirus ruled by members of the Byzantine Royal family. . On the other hand we have .......................................................... Georgios Kastriotis: He was also known as Skenterbeis. Greek Epirotian prince son of Ioannis Kastriotis, medieval feudal lord of Krugia, in North Epirus. Georgios Kastriotis was born on1405 in the citadel of Krugia. He became legendary for its tries to unify the population of Epirus and eliberate the region from the Ottoman invaders. He fought against the Turks for 50 years and he did not lost any battle. He was concerned also about sociological and political issues of its era, and he was accepting as prime values the teachings of the major medieval Greek philosopher Georgios Plithon Gemistos, who was arguing for a neccesity of a definiton of the medieval state and the diversification between the warrior and the farmer. Georgios Kastriotis became a legend for the suppressed by the Muslim invaders Epirotians, and all Greeks. His figure was untill the 19th Century, considered as National Hero of resistance and military success. With the illegal creation of the Albanian state in 1914, the unorganized and savage till then Albanian tribes tried to invent a medieval history in order to justify the existence of their illegal state. So during the communist era, the stalinist regime of Enver Xoxha adopted the legend of Kastriotis forging the true history, and his origin. It was a clear example of newly created statal forms which in the lack of proper history are forging the legends of other nations. The Greek Epirotian origin of Kastriotis is easily demonstrated by simple arguments. Georgios kastriotis was cristian orthodox, in contrast with the big majority of the Albanians which are muslim (90%). His name was Georgios (ancient Greek name), and his surname Kastriotis (Kastro in Greek means castle, Kastriotis is called the person from the castle or the person with the castle). The majority of the Albanian names are Ahmet or Suleiman or something like that. Finnaly in his letter to the Prince of Taranto Jovanni Antonio, Kastriotis says: " Our ancestors were Epirotians, from which Pyrros the King was born. Who won the Romans and occupied Taranto and other cities of Italy. You do not have fighters to resist in the Epirotian courage" ("Georgios Kastriotis", K.Paganel, p.156, 1860). ................................................................... ;D ;D ;D Tell me who is the wolf and who is the lamb......
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Post by Arxileas on Jul 25, 2008 8:06:09 GMT -5
I for one welcome them in Albania. You can have them, just remember to feed them twice a day ;D I do hear tell it's the Greeks of Arvanete origin, harrass the Albanians most....Off course they won't tell you, because they proud to be GREEKS .
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Post by atlantis on Jul 25, 2008 9:46:01 GMT -5
Arxileas wrote, -Off course they won't tell you, because they proud to be GREEKS - For sure same as me proud to be “Canadian” -as my cousins proud to be “Americans”, as arberesh proud to be “Italians” …lol…. enjoy the videos www.webmunism.com/vids/of/Arvanit
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Post by Arxileas on Jul 25, 2008 10:08:24 GMT -5
You understand now why you can't clame him..... Your obviously not reading what I writing here, let's try again WE ARE NOT CLAIMING HIM. We have way too much history to be claiming anyone here. Please re-read carefully what I write, I write in black and white not in cryptic or secret hidden messages. I’m stating it’s his letters and his name that are a dead give away, nothing more. As for the Arvanentes vidoes don't prove a thing...They can be forged
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Jul 25, 2008 10:15:22 GMT -5
The most funniest Video here Devil went down to Jamaica, I know it people talk fun in here this forum!! Peace !!!
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Post by Arxileas on Jul 25, 2008 10:16:22 GMT -5
Let me be clear. If some serious historians decided to do a research on Georgios Kastriotis origins, they will come to the same conclusions AS BEING A GREEK AND HALF SERB. The evidence is in his letters of who his ancestors were and more. And NOT one time did he ever claim Albanian nationality NOT one time. In my opinion he is a hero to all the nationalities who fought under the Orthodox banner "Greeks, Serbs, Albanians and Bulgarians, please don't tell me he was a Catholic ? cause that's a lie.
Again we are not claiming him. You understand ?
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Jul 25, 2008 10:27:53 GMT -5
Do greeks call arvanitas Camet...?
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Post by Arxileas on Jul 25, 2008 10:30:12 GMT -5
Do greeks call arvanitas Camet...? They call them self's GREEKS and so do we. Next question.
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Jul 25, 2008 10:37:38 GMT -5
Camet wanted be greeks but they are albanians the world's most rich people !!!!
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Post by atlantis on Jul 25, 2008 11:03:38 GMT -5
You understand now why you can't clame him..... Your obviously not reading what I writing here, let's try again WE ARE NOT CLAIMING HIM. We have way too much history to be claiming anyone here. Please re-read carefully what I write, I write in black and white not in cryptic or secret hidden messages. I’m stating it’s his letters and his name that are a dead give away, nothing more. As for the Arvanentes vidoes don't prove a thing...They can be forged Didn't know you were so good in literature.... It's "a old story" with many copies about "Georges Kastriotis...." Anyaway thnx for for your contribution about him,keep going with other heroes too.... About arvanitas ,at the time they are strong related with Christian Arberesh in Italy, Muslim Arrnauts in Turkey, Tosk in south albanian and Ghegs-Homeric people with a same language ...they can be on the right truck.... with no doubt
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Jul 25, 2008 11:35:30 GMT -5
I don't see any reason anymore that we Balkan people should have any distance or hatred from each other. Nowdays we are so mixed and peaceful should keep that forever. All Balkan people should be United and have Balkan Passport !!!!!
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